Wise Men Say

Let's get together and have a good old twist about everything. Four defeats on the bounce, one goal in four games. What seemed a promising start to the season has been well and truly ended. However, were there any positives to take from Tuesday's defeat to Nottingham Forest? Gareth might have some...WMS regular Michael Lough and The Sunderland Echo's Phil Smith join the lads in the studio to previ...

Most of us appeared to walk away from the Sheffield United defeat feeling like we'd had a repeat of that 8-0 walloping at Southampton. On a positive note, we have Kieron Brady in the studio in place of Gareth Barker. We hear from Simon Grayson Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Stephen and Gareth are joined by former Sunderland Echo sports writer Graeme Anderson and WMS regular Michael Lough to preview this weekend's game at home to Sheffield United. We talk transfers, recovering from two consecutive defeats and also hear from James Shield of The Sheffield Star. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On Saturday 2nd of September we travelled down to London and took up residence at the excellent Southwark Brewery for a night of SAFC craic/crack. David Preece joined Stephen, Gareth and Rory on the panel. Craig milled about getting mortal under the guise of helper. It was a great trip yet again and we'd like to thank all of the people that came out to see us, Peter Jackson at the brewery, who was...

Going into the international break on the back of a win would've been nice but we didn't and it isn't. Stephen, Gareth and Rory discuss the Barnsley defeat, transfers, Khazri, players eating food in a restaurant on a Saturday night and take questions from listeners. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sunderland got back to winning ways mid week with a victory over Carlisle Utd in the League Cup. With one more league game to go before the international break, we could do with a second league win of the season at Oakwell on Saturday. Just Stephen and Gareth in the studio this week. We promise it isn't that bad. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sunderland suffered defeat for this first time this season against Leeds. They looked tired and in need of some squad reinforcement, but was it really that bad? We discuss the game and some views on where fans should or shouldn't be allowed to sit in the SoL.Stephen, Gareth and Rory are joined by The Times' George Caulkin in the studio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sunderland's unbeaten start to the season continued with a draw at Sheffield Wednesday. Can The Lads keep it going with, hopefully, a win against Leeds this weekend? Damian Spellman from the Press Association joins the lads in the studio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This Championship lark is canny, isn't it? A lovely old win down at Carrow Road and The Lads have their tails up. Now we head to Sheffield Wednesday hoping to keep that momentum going. Stephen is back (Wahey!) and Rory is back (Wahey!) and we've also got Gav Henderson from Roker Report. Strap yourselves in as we talk about WINNING. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A decent start to the new season means Sunderland can go into the games against Bury and Norwich City with a bit more confidence. We preview both games and get a Norwich view on Sunday's clash too. No Stephen again this week, so Gareth is joined by WMS contributor Richard Easterbrook and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, Friday happened and it wasn't all that bad. A decent performance, a well earned point and plenty of effort from the lads in red and white. There's plenty to discuss in the studio, with WMS regulars Craig Clark and Gary Foster joining Gareth, as well as Chris Thompson from A Love Supreme. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

A new season, but maybe not the optimism that should not all come with it. Sunderland begin their first Championship season in a decade at home to Derby County on the back of that awful game against Celtic. We get the lowdown on Simon Grayson from Simon Crabtree and hear from Derby County podcaster Chris Parsons. We also hear from the gaffer himself. No Stephen this week, so Gareth is joined by WM...

Hello Wise Men Say and Into The Light listeners,We’re delighted to say that every Thursday, we’ll be producing ‘Wise Men Say – The Preview Show with Sun FM’, replacing Into The Light. Every week we’ll be bringing you the usual in depth discussion and analysis surrounding Sunderland AFC, great guests from the world of journalism, ex players and of course, you, the fans. You’ll also get your post ma...

Join us at The Southwark Brewery for another WMS live show on Saturday September 2nd! We’ll be joined by former Sunderland goalkeeper and journalist David Preece. Doors are at 7pm and tickets are available at wisemensay.co.uk for £10 (plus £1 booking fee). There’ll be plenty to discuss and it should be another great night. It was incredibly popular last time we did a show at the Brewery and it sol...

Just when we thought we were out, Moyes pulls us back in. In an all WMS team affair, we discuss where we go after the resignation of David Moyes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In a season of abject displays, Saturday's pathetic showing against Swansea probably topped the lot. In a final studio show of the season, we're joined by Gavin Henderson of Roker Report, Sobs of A Love Supreme and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter. Hopefully it'll be a more worthwhile use of time than the 90 minutes we all endured on Saturday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more in...

Stephen, Gareth and Rory are joined by former Wearside Roar editor, amongst other things, Tom Lynn. We pick the bones out of a bizarre Sunderland performance in which we played quite well and did two of those goal things that other people keep banging on about. Too little too late? Hope for next season? Or just plain meh? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Stephen, Gareth, Rory and Michael Lough get together for the first relegation party of the next few weeks. Strap yourself in for some hot, hot depression. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was all too little, too late. A canny performance, but it probably dug up more questions than answers for David Moyes. Stephen is back and joins Gareth, Rory and Michael Lough in an all WMS affair. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We're getting to the stage where the undertaker is going to have to replace the coffin, such is the residual damage from the constant hammering of nails in the aforementioned casket of relegationy goodness. Sunderland seemed to be there in body and not in spirit as they limped to a 0-3 home reverse to Manchester United. Is there anything good about us at the moment? We're all scratching our heads....

Would another manager have got more out of this group of players than 20 points? It's Wilkinson/McCarthy-esque and some of the Wise Men Say team have utterly and completely lost faith in David Moyes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What a dire game and what a dire result. An increasingly frustrated fan bas and with a manager under no real pressure, there's a lot of beef flying about. British beef, of course. Stephen, Gareth and Rory are joined my ALS Fanzine's Chris Thompson and The Evening Chronicle's James Hunter. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We look back on another brilliant result for the lads in red and white, as we took another step towards securing the Relegation Trophy after a 0-2 defeat to Manchester City. Stephen and Gareth are joined by former Northern Echo sports writer, and current WMS contributor, Richard Mason as well as BBC Radio Newcastle's Nick Barnes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Another bad result and things look bleak, but on the other hand we're still well within touching distance of safety. A non descript defeat at Everton to discuss should be delightful. Joining Stephen and Gareth are Richard Mennear of the Sunderland Echo and WMS contributor Michael Lough. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Well, wasn't that the most Sunderland thing in the world to do? We shouldn't even be surprised that we followed up a 4-0 win with a 4-0 loss, knowing that a win would have taken us outside the relegation zone. And we aren't. No Gareth this week, so Stephen, Rory and Craig talked about the game, the squad and the New York trip. The club's New York trip that is. We aren't at the level to be touring...