Brent Stevenson and Matt Giammarino

Why Things Hurt and How We Learn

Education EN ↓ 18 episodes

New podcast featuring two fathers and long term friends: physiotherapist Brent Stevenson and educational consultant Matt Giammarino. Be a fly on the wall listening to two dads discussing the similarities and differences of helping people within the education and healthcare systems, and as parents. Matt & Brent both run private businesses filling in the cracks of publicly funded systems. They are both dad's to multiple teenagers. Brent is the co-owner of Envision Physiotherapy in Vancouver, Canada, and authors WhyThingsHurt.comMatt is currently working as a Special Education Consultant

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Brent Stevenson and Matt Giammarino

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Education

Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

School Attendance and Your Kid's Nervous System 07.07.2026

Brent and Matt investigate one of the biggest questions in eduction today: Can schools increase attendance, not by punishing students, but by reforming how they teach? If all students learn differently, how can we create approaches that guarantee all learning styles are accommodated for? And can analysis of our nervous systems give insight into answering these questions? Bios Brent Stevenson has b...

Future Jobs, Intelligence, AI & Morality 17.06.2026

What types of jobs will our children have? What are the skills we should be learning moving forward? How will morality fit into the interplay between people, corporations and government as the role of AI grows so rapidly? Matt and Brent ask each other all these questions and try their best to answer them. Bios Brent Stevenson has been a physiotherapist in Vancouver, Canada for over 20 years.  He i...

Accepting Your Reality Before Changing It 19.05.2026

Listen to a conversation about the role of acceptance in feeling better.  Bad shit happens all the time.  It may not be your fault, but it will likely be your job to clean up and deal with your own predicament.  Brent and Matt talk about the importance of learning the roles of the professionals around you, the roots of empathy, owning your issues and giving off the illusion that you are holding it...

SHORT #3: Releasing Tension 05.05.2026

Releasing tension from your body creates a temporary state of being that usually feels more comfortable and can show you that there are different experiences of being you.  We are all regenerating sources of tension for different reasons.  Body work, needling, meditation and breathwork can all help you release tension while you work at understanding how to stay in a comfortable version of yourself...

SHORT #2: Bracing Tension 28.04.2026

Your subconscious autopilot tends to brace muscles both as a postural strategy and as a reactive emotional response.  Bracing simplifies the task of holding yourself up against gravity and is a means of physically dealing with shame, anxiety and fear.  Too much bracing or gripping is compressive on your body and starts to get uncomfortable. Bios Brent Stevenson has been a physiotherapist in Vancou...

SHORT #1: Explain Pain 21.04.2026

Your body is more than a vehicle to walk your head around.  It helps you see, feel and experience the world; pain is part of that experience.  Listen to a fifteen-minute conversation about how and why things hurt from physical, emotional and theoretical perspectives.    Bios Brent Stevenson has been a physiotherapist in Vancouver, Canada for over 20 years.  He is married and has three teenagers, t...

Coaching and Talking to Children 08.04.2026

Matt & Brent talk with police officer, and Coach Talk Training educator Andy Stuart about how to effectively communicate with kids. Three dads discuss the ins-and-outs of language in teaching kids to learn the new physical skills involved in sports. They talk about the importance of descriptive language and the challenges that come with helping volunteer parent-coaches communicate with a spect...

Brent's Breathe-athon 04.03.2026

Brent recently pursued a two-hour guided breathing journey and tells Matt about his experience.  The two discuss altered states and different ways to tap into your nervous system to access what you may be inadvertently embodying.  They talk about the role of the practitioner in holding space for someone while they confront and build tolerance for uncertainty.  Matt and Brent facilitate the ups and...

Issues In Your Tissues 28.01.2026

We all experience and explore the world through our bodies as the interface.  Hear Brent explain how the distributed network of your nervous system holds memories and intelligence throughout your body, not just in your brain.  Listen in to a ranging conversation on organ transplants, Neuralink, busy brains, self-regulation, and learned helplessness.  Physios and tutors become an external form of r...

Code Red: When To Start Worrying 13.01.2026

What are the signs that you need to start taking action to help your child struggling at school or your loved one dealing with chronic pain?  Matt and Brent dive into the urgency of disengagement, learning disabilities, dissociation, and loss of hope in both children and adults.  There is nuance involved in redirecting lost souls to help them find some agency in their experience and feelings of co...

Spectrums of You: Hypermobility & Consciousness 06.01.2026

Some of us are loose jointed.  Some of us are autistic.  We all exist on spectrums both physically and mentally.  Hypermobile people have genetically stretchier soft tissues making them more flexible, but can feel stiffer because their muscles brace to hold everything together.  A discussion on the experience of being you between two professionals that try their best to help people struggling with...

A.I. Consuming Your Family 30.12.2025

Are you staying ahead of your kids and your parents use of artificial intelligence?  AI is rapidly changing how our kids learn, how our doctors diagnose, and how our parents research their aches and pains.  Listen to a discussion on the risks and benefits of the evolving technology of teaching our kids and keeping us healthy.  Matt & Brent start with a tangent about coffee, alcohol and TENS ma...

Dangers of a Diagnosis 23.12.2025

What is wrong with you?  Why is it happening?  How can you change it? Have you got past the first question?  A diagnosis can provide clarity, but it can also create behavioural problems.  Listen to Brent & Matt discuss the challenges of trying to de-pathologize clients after they have received a diagnosis.  Common language descriptions help build agency and avoid the fear connected to medical...

The Anatomy of Stress 16.12.2025

Emotions are called feelings because you feel them.  Your vagus nerve is part of the highway that transmits stress, anxiety and fear throughout your body.  Our behaviours and experiences are created and regulated via our nervous systems.  Explore the curious interactions between how you think and how you feel, and how that impacts how you learn and behave.  We all get stuck in grooves of thought a...

Toxic Shame 16.12.2025

There is a discrepancy between what you want and what you are willing to change to experience what you want.  Shame, regret and fixed mind sets tend to get in the way of a growth mentality.  Listen to Matt explain how parents can be curious not furious about their teens’ behaviours.  Hear how to challenge people to think and behave differently to help them help themselves.  Brent and Matt discuss...

Individuals Lost In Broken Systems 16.12.2025

Our systems are broken.  Schools are losing relevance for our kids.  Doctors and hospitals can’t keep up with their demands and pressures.  Listen to Brent & Matt discuss who is filling in the cracks in our public systems.  Hear the similar challenges facing both education and healthcare from two professionals that have started private businesses in publicly funded sectors.  It’s hard being an...

The Importance of Being Weird 16.12.2025

Everyone has their quirks.  No one is normal, let’s stop pretending.  Listen to Brent and Matt discuss the importance of subcultures and the pressures of societal norms on both children and adults.  How do we empower people without enabling them to avoid challenge?  Hear two fathers of teenagers talk about the idea of asking for students consent to have them do things they don’t want to do.  How d...

Season 1 Trailer 11.12.2025

A preview of Season 1. Brent & Matt have are dad's in their mid 40s that have known each other for 30 years. Be a fly on the wall as a physio and education consultant dive into how everybody is on a spectrum, how we experience pain, how we are all weird, and the nuance of helping people that are struggling. Bios Brent Stevenson has been a physiotherapist in Vancouver, Canada for over 20 ye...

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