Who’s In Charge?

Episode Description What do a captain’s chair during the 2020 lockdown, a go-kart track with no mercy, a coffee maker with exactly one trained button-pusher, and a self-described “Shrek the Human Onion” have in common? They’re all part of this week’s conversation with Jason Medley and Jennifer Lombardi. Jason leads Collective Genius, the mastermind community for real estate investors, and he and J...

Episode Description What do a hospital hand-sanitizer dispenser, a calendar that runs like a game of Tetris, a canceled Florida vacation, and a recurring meeting block called “daddy doing deals” have in common? They’re all part of this week’s conversation on CEO rhythms. There’s no guest this time — just Stephanie and Zach across the table, the planner and the improviser, working through how succe...

Episode Description Pat Martin didn't start with a grand vision or a business plan. He started with a house in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, a father-in-law who said "you should fix that up," and a wife who was the breadwinner while he figured things out. By 2010 he was in Knoxville, turning live-in flips every two years, stacking equity, and slowly building what would become Pro Source Home Bu...

Episode Description What does it really take to build a real estate empire alongside the person you married your freshman year of college? Marck and Sara Beth De Lautour have been doing exactly that for 25 years, starting with a $5,000 credit card charge for a real estate course, a cat-filled duplex they eventually moved into, and a nursing salary holding the whole thing together. Marck, originall...

Episode Description What do Ironman triathlons, venture capital, pro track and field coaching, and falling asleep on the stairs have in common? They're all part of one of the most energizing double date conversations the Who's In Charge? podcast has ever had. This week, Stephanie and Zach sit down with KathrynKathryn O'Day, partner at Atlanta Ventures and former employee number nine at Pardot, and...

Episode Description What if the thing you've been avoiding — conflict — is actually the thing standing between you and the business you're trying to build? In this raw and refreshingly personal solo episode, Stephanie and Zach get into it on the topic of conflict: where it comes from, why most leaders handle it wrong, and what it actually looks like to turn tension into a team superpower. Stephani...

What does it look like when someone goes from fixing and flipping houses in post-crash Las Vegas to co-founding a $165 million venture-backed real estate technology company — twice? This week, Stephanie and Zach sit down with Josh Stech, co-founder of Sundae, for one of the most framework-rich, intellectually honest conversations the podcast has ever produced. Josh brings the kind of clarity that...

What does it actually look like when a company turns the corner — not from a highlight reel moment, but from the slow, unglamorous work of facing what you've been avoiding? In this solo episode, Stephanie and Zach pull back the curtain on what's working right now in both Better Path Homes and Left Main REI. No guests, no polish — just a raw, honest conversation about burnout disguised as boredom,...

What happens when two people who started as business partners — and not even friends — end up building one of the most solid entrepreneurial marriages in real estate? This week, Stephanie and Zach welcome Matt Theriault of Epic Real Estate and his partner Mercedes Torres for a double date conversation that gets refreshingly honest about ego, adaptability, and what it actually means to be a team. M...

Eric Brewer is a name that real estate investors recognize — but this episode isn't about the deals. It's about what happens behind the billboard. This week, Stephanie and Zach sit down with Eric and his wife Sonia for a rare, unfiltered look at the relationship that has quietly anchored one of the most recognized names in REI. It starts with a bar, a rejected tip, and a woman who had zero interes...

Most entrepreneurs hit a wall and assume something is broken. The revenue stops growing, the team feels chaotic, and no matter how hard they push, nothing moves. What Zach and Stephanie Betters know — after 12 years of building real estate investment and SaaS businesses — is that hitting a ceiling isn't a sign you're failing. It's a sign you've graduated. In Episode 10 of Who's In Charge? , Stepha...

Are you stuck in an "industry echo chamber"? In this episode, Stephanie and Zachary Betters challenge leaders to break out of their vertical and look to the outside world for innovation. From the high-stakes world of 1950s open-heart surgery to the efficiency of a Chick-fil-A drive-thru, they discuss how asking specific questions can lead to $15 solutions for million-dollar problems. The duo explo...

Episode Description In this episode, Stephanie and Zachary Betters explore the concept of "living a hundred lives" and how a diverse background—from medicine to high-stakes entrepreneurship—is actually a massive competitive advantage. They debunk the myth that you need decades of industry-specific experience to be successful, arguing instead that the lessons learned in "previous lives" are exactly...

Episode Summary: In this episode, Stephanie and Zachary Betters sit down with Hunter and Andrea Jarvis of Legacy Homebuyers. Hunter and Andrea share their 10-year journey from Hunter’s early days as a "problem child" in the corporate banking world to building one of the most respected real estate investment firms in Dallas, TX. They dive deep into the "messy middle" of leaving a W2, the importance...

Episode Description In this episode, Stephanie and Zachary Betters dive into the mental and operational "grind" of scaling a real estate business. They explore the concept of the "0.02-second loss" —those frustrating moments when you miss a contract by a hair—and explain why winning isn't about miles, but about tiny, repeatable efficiencies. The duo discusses the danger of high achievers constantl...

What does it really take to grow an empire while raising four kids? In this episode, Zach and Stephanie Betters welcome their first guests, Jimmy and Susie Vreeland, for an unfiltered "double date" conversation. Jimmy share how he applied "Army Ranger grit" to buy 60 houses in one year while still working a full-time W2 job, and Susie reveals the bold moves she made to triage their business when i...

Are you holding on too tight, or have you checked out completely? In this episode of Who’s In Charge? , Zach and Stephanie Betters tackle the "Ego Trap" of leadership. They dive into the difficult discernment of when to step into the weeds and when to get out of the way. Stephanie gets raw about her "checking anxiety" and how rummaging for mistakes can turn a founder into a "terrorist" in their ow...

Stop the Hustle, Start the Leading. In this episode, Zach and Stephanie Betters break down the "metamorphosis" from a chaos-driven entrepreneur to a calm, decisive leader. They share raw stories from their early days—from falling asleep on the stairs to the "aha moment" of delivering paint in Charlotte traffic—to explain why "brute force" eventually hits a wall. Learn why the very hustle that made...

Is it time to "burn the boats"? In this episode, Zach and Stephanie Betters tackle the most debated question in entrepreneurship: when to leave your W2 job. They pull back the curtain on their own transition from high-stakes medicine to full-time real estate, sharing the "sugar mama" dynamics, the six-month reserve rule, and the emotional toll of leaving a respected professional identity behind. D...

Where it all began. In this inaugural episode of Who’s In Charge? , Stephanie and Zach Betters take us back 20 years to a sunny fall day in Binghamton, NY, where they met on an ambulance squad. From $200,000 in student debt and a "no-doors" fixer-upper to leading two powerhouse organizations—Left Main REI and Better Path Homes—this is the raw, funny, and inspiring story of their metamorphosis. Dis...

From $200k in student debt and a house with no bathroom doors to leading two powerhouse organizations, Stephanie and Zach Betters have lived the "high-risk, high-stress" evolution of the modern entrepreneur. As the CEOs of Left Main REI and Better Path Homes , they’ve traded medical-grade stress for the high-stakes world of real estate and systems. But the transition from "hustle chaos" to "calm b...