Heba & Nira Shunbo

Who said what? With Heba and Nira

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Who Said What?! With Heba & Nira is your go-to podcast that dives into the hilarious, raw, and honest world of two sisters in their 40's navigating life, love, and family, with the values of community and empowerment. With a global perspective shaped by their experiences living across Egypt, the U.S., Saudi Arabia, Dubai, and Europe, Heba and Nira bring a unique mix of cultural insights and perspectives, and deeply relatable personal stories to every episode. They also feature inspiring and influential guests; breaking barriers in regional media with a unique and unfiltered approach to tacklin...

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Heba & Nira Shunbo

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Aug 5, 2025

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Episodes

Surprise Guests, Gouna Fights & Our Season 4 Debrief 05.08.2025

In this unfiltered wrap-up, we go off-script as usual: from laughing about surprise guest reveals to rehashing our introvert vs extrovert showdown, debating Sahel vs. Gouna, and of course, weighing in on celebrity crushes and gossip. We look back at our favorite guests, biggest lessons, what made us laugh the hardest, and what we’re excited about for Season 5. It’s a mix of reflection, real talk,...

Branding Is Personal: Omar Hikal on Identity, Leadership & Creativity 29.07.2025

In this high energy finale to Season 4, Heba and Nira sit down with Omar Hikal, the creative force and founder of The Brand Company in Egypt. Known for his bold, storytelling-driven branding work, Omar opens up about everything from his early career and leadership evolution to the importance of emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and knowing who you are in your business. They dig into the psyc...

Dunia Anabtawi on Haute Couture, Hosting, and the Art of Saying No 22.07.2025

In this episode of Who Said What?! , we sit down with Palestinian-Canadian fashion designer Dunia Anabtawi , founder of her eponymous haute couture brand, to talk all things fashion, food, femininity, and fierce independence. From designing her first dress at 20 to navigating Egypt’s chaotic production scene, Dunia shares her journey, the soul of her brand, and why energy—whether from a dress or a...

Is Romance Dead? Love Then vs. Now 16.07.2025

In this episode of Who Said What?! , Heba and Nira dive deep into the question: Is romance dead? From teenage love letters and slow dancing in the ‘90s to ghosting, DMs, and dating apps today—they unpack what’s changed and what hasn’t when it comes to love. They talk about decision paralysis, the myth of “better options,” the death of emotional depth, and whether romance has disappeared or just… e...

Amina El Demirdash on Art, Aging & Owning It 09.07.2025

This week on Who Said What?! we sit down with artist, globetrotter, and human sunshine Amina El Demirdash . From her art residencies in Korea and Japan to aging, dating after divorce, and healing through creativity, Amina keeps it raw, real, and hilarious. We talk self-care rituals, anti-aging myths, perimenopause, why Egyptian WhatsApp culture is out of control, and how a hair growth expert in Ko...

Why We’re Over New Year’s Resolutions, kind of... 02.07.2025

It’s that time again—no, not January. It’s the middle of the year and Heba & Nira are doing a brutally honest check-in on those shiny New Year’s resolutions. Did we stick to them? Did we abandon them by February? Do we even care anymore? In this episode, Heba and Nira go head-to-head on the value (or futility) of resolutions, how Heba is simplifying her life (and her people), and why Nira thin...

Mohamed Hefzy Uncut: Film, Freedom & Finding Space 18.06.2025

This week on Who Said What?! , we sit down with Mohamed Hefzy acclaimed film producer, writer, and founder of Film Clinic — whose name is behind some of Egypt’s most iconic modern films. From childhood movie obsessions and Cannes jury duties to navigating the minefield of censorship in Egypt, Hefzy opens up about the fine line between storytelling and controversy. He also gets candid about turning...

Gen X Unfiltered: From Mix Tapes to Mental Breakdowns 11.06.2025

Remember when you had to rewind your VHS or face a fine? When your boyfriend made you a mix tape , not a Spotify playlist? In this hilarious and painfully honest episode, Heba and Nira dive into the glorious chaos of growing up Gen X. From absentee parenting to cassette tapes, phone booths to pre-internet drama, they unpack why this weird and wonderful generation might just be the most underrated—...

Tarek Ismail’s Playbook: From Law to Food to Bold Ventures 04.06.2025

In this episode of Who Said What?! , Nira and Heba sit down with Tarek Ismail—an entrepreneur who’s navigated everything from law in the US to Cairo’s booming food scene. Tarek shares his journey from corporate law at Clifford Chance LLP and Baker & McKenzie to the F&B world, where he and his brother have built successful ventures. We get real about family ties in business, shifting from r...

Extrovert vs. Introvert? The Heated Debate You Didn’t Know You Needed 28.05.2025

Are you an introvert or an extrovert—or do you just play one at parties? In this hilariously heated episode of Who Said What?! , Heba and Nira dive into the messy middle between labels, debating what it really means to be introverted or extroverted in today’s world. From ghosting parties to needing a hype-person to socialize, they unpack it all. Heba tries to convince Nira she's not the introvert...

Ingy Ismail on Fashion, PR Burnout & Starting Over in Egypt 21.05.2025

In this episode of Who Said What?! , we sit down with Ingy Ismail , PR consultant and founder of Flare PR, to talk about what it really takes to carve out your place in a chaotic industry—and an even more chaotic world. From leaving Egypt at 17 to live solo in Tuscany and chase a dream in fashion, to interning at Diesel and later landing a coveted role at Salvatore Ferragamo, Ingy shares how she p...

Season 4 is Here: Life Updates, TV Recs & Real Talk 14.05.2025

We’re baaaaack! Season 4 kicks off with a candid catch-up between sisters Heba & Nira—no script, no filter, just real talk. In this premiere episode, we unpack: Our very different Ramadan experiences, and why Heba needed to shut the world out Nira's update on life, baking, and why she's hitting pause on dating Heba's flat renovation chaos and her need for a serious life reset A heartwarming si...

Owning It in Your 40s: Aging, Identity & Knowing Who You Are with Zeinab Hegarty 14.04.2025

Radio host Zeinab Hegarty joins us for an honest, hilarious, and raw conversation about life in your 40s. From dating younger men and adjusting to life in Cairo after moving from London in her 20s, to navigating career, identity, and societal pressures—Zeinab brings her signature wit and wisdom to the mic. We talk about aging, relationships, friendships, decision paralysis, and what no one really...

Let’s Talk Menopause: Hormones, HRT & the Grey Zone with Dr. Hussein Gohar 03.04.2025

In this eye-opening episode of Who Said What?! , we sit down with leading OB/GYN Dr. Hussein Gohar, based in Cairo, Egypt, to talk all things perimenopause, menopause, and hormone health. After decades in gynecology, Dr. Gohar is now laser-focused on the often misunderstood and under-discussed phase of women’s lives: the menopause transition. We dive deep into: What perimenopause really is and whe...

Why Is Setting Boundaries So Damn Hard? 26.03.2025

In this week’s episode of Who Said What?! , Heba and Nira get real about one of the trickiest topics out there: boundaries . Nira opens up about how she's learned to say no without the guilt—and how standing her ground has brought her peace. Heba, on the other hand, admits that her struggle to set boundaries often leads to confusion, burnout, and blurred lines in both personal and professional rel...

The Psychology of Interior Design – with Ramzi Ebeid 19.03.2025

Ever wondered what really goes on behind the scenes in interior design in Egypt? From difficult clients to Pinterest copycats, Cairo-based interior designer Ramzi Ebeid joins us to talk about the realities of the design industry. We cover: 1.    The secret to creating timeless, original designs 🏡 2.    Why commercial projects move faster than residential ones 3.    The importance of vetting clien...

Steven Bartlett: A $250K Bet & The Art of Failing 12.03.2025

We attended an exclusive event in Cairo hosted for Steven Bartlett, where he spoke about his experiences, his book The Diary of a CEO , and his insights on success, hiring, and risk-taking. In this episode, we share our biggest takeaways—from the event itself, what stood out the most in his talk, and whether his ideas would work in Egypt. How is he so wise at such a young age? His clarity, sharp t...

The Truth About Weight Loss: Mindset, Stress & Food 05.03.2025

In this episode of Who Said What?! , we sit down with Fayrouz Eid , wellness coach and nutritionist, to unpack the real keys to sustainable weight loss, breaking unhealthy food cycles, and shifting your mindset for long-term health. Fayrouz opens up about her own weight gain journey after her first pregnancy, how she turned it around, and why deep health is more than just diet and exercise. We als...

We Need a Social Media Detox (And Here’s Why) 26.02.2025

Are we addicted to social media, or is it just too much? This week, we get real about our love-hate relationship with the digital world. Why Nira finds social media overwhelming and pointless Heba’s take on why it makes us more connected yet more anxious The selfie debate —cringe or totally normal? The dangers of social media, AI, and why it’s ruining lives Influencers, oversharing, and why attent...

Shut the F* Up & Listen: Amy Mowafi on Building MO4 & Surviving Family Business 19.02.2025

This week on Who Said What?! , we sit down with media mogul, storyteller, and all-around powerhouse Amy Mowafi. She joins us for a no-holds-barred conversation about building MO4 Network, navigating the chaos of working with family, and the insane sacrifices behind success. In this episode, we dive into: How Amy went from hustling her way into Enigma Magazine to leading one of Egypt’s most influen...

Valentine’s Day Roast - Nira in the Hot Seat! 12.02.2025

It’s Valentine’s Day, and you know what that means… love is in the air! Or at least it is for some people. In this special episode, Heba puts Nira in the hot seat, grilling her on all things dating, relationships, and why she might just be too good at ignoring red flags. From cringy love poems to ghosting vs. awkward second dates, we get the inside scoop on Nira’s love life, her ultimate relations...

Ramadan, Ozempic & Fitness Myths - with Mohamed Eid 05.02.2025

What happens when an engineer leaves corporate life to follow his passion for coaching? You get Mohamed Eid—the founder of Elevate, a gym built for people who actually need help training, whether recovering from injuries or looking for a smarter approach to fitness. In this episode, Eid shares his journey from engineering to coaching, how his mother encouraged him to take the leap, and why he’s ob...

Swipe Right, Think Twice: Dating in the Modern World 29.01.2025

In this episode of Who Said What?! , Heba and Nira dive deep into the messy, hilarious, and sometimes frustrating world of dating apps. From the stark differences in how men and women perceive online dating to personal stories of Tinder escapades and blind dates gone wrong, they leave no stone unturned. They discuss why it’s so hard to meet people, the pros and cons of digital love, and the rise o...

Podcasting with Nour Hassan: Radical, Real, and Rebranded 22.01.2025

We’re thrilled to kick off Season 3 of Who Said What?! with an exciting episode featuring Nour Hassan, the creative mind behind the newly rebranded The Curation Pod (formerly known as The Radical Contemporary ). Nour opens up about her journey as a podcaster and entrepreneur, reflecting on the challenges of staying true to herself in a world dominated by societal expectations and the pressures of...

Star power with Tamer Hagras: funny, fearless and full of wisdom 25.12.2024

This week on Who Said What?! , we sit down with the charismatic and talented Tamer Hagras, a close friend and one of Egypt’s most beloved stars. In this candid conversation, Tamer reflects on his fascinating journey—from his start in modeling to landing a lead role early in his acting career. He shares what it was like working with legends like Adel Emam, how his upbringing shaped his acting in Ar...

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