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White and Williams Subro Sessions

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White and Williams Subro Sessions provides insights into the world of subrogation. You'll hear from various lawyers in our subrogation department discussing the latest legal updates, news and trends as well as strategies for litigation, mediation and recovery. This podcast should not be construed as legal advice or legal opinion on any specific facts or circumstances. Prior results do not guarantee a similar outcome. The contents are intended for general informational purposes only, and you are urged to consult a lawyer concerning your own situation with any specific legal question you may hav...

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Jun 25, 2026

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Episodes

Subro Sessions Top 5: Things We Would Like to See from Experts at the Initial Site Inspection 25.06.2026

In the latest episode of Subro Sessions, Matt Ferrie, Gus Sara and Lian Skaf, Partners in the Subrogation Practice Group, debut a new series for the podcast, called "Top 5." This episode features their top five best practices for Things We Would Like to See from Experts at the Initial Site Inspection. The episode covers fire scene investigations, communications, methodologies, professionalism and...

Getting to Know Subro: Meet Marcia Richards, Counsel, White and Williams Subrogation Department 26.05.2026

The latest episode of Subro Sessions' "Getting to Know Subro" series, hosted by Partner Lian Skaf, features Marcia Richards, Counsel in the White and Williams Subrogation Department. Originally from England, Marcia brings a global perspective to her practice. In the episode, they discuss her journey into the #subrogation field—from starting as a paralegal to serving as a law clerk to the former Ch...

What an Expert Wants, What an Expert Needs - Part 2 31.03.2026

Matt Ferrie, Partner in the Subrogation Practice Group, hosts this Subro Sessions episode, "What an Expert Wants, What an Expert Needs," featuring guest J. Pablo Ross, an engineer and fire origin-and-cause investigator with Ross Engineers. In part two of this two-part series, Matt and Pablo explore the essential elements of drafting comprehensive investigative reports and final reports and highlig...

What an Expert Wants, What an Expert Needs 10.02.2026

Matt Ferrie, Partner in the Subrogation Practice Group, hosts this Subro Sessions episode, "What an Expert Wants, What an Expert Needs," featuring guest J. Pablo Ross, an engineer and fire origin-and-cause investigator with Ross Engineers. In this part one of a two-part series, Matt and Pablo discuss best practices in expert retention and the essential steps subrogation attorneys can take to suppo...

Getting to Know Subro: Meet Matt Ferrie, Partner in the White and Williams Subrogation Department 02.12.2025

In the most recent episode of Subro Sessions, "Getting to Know Subro" series, Lian Skaf, Partner and host, interviews Matt Ferrie, Partner, who shares tales from his early career and transition to the Subrogation Department at White and Williams LLP. In addition to offering advice along the way to those interested in pursuing the field, Matt also tells stories about his training in boxing and pass...

Measuring Property Damages: What Every Subrogator Should Know 09.10.2025

This episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, hosted by David Huberman, Partner, covers the legal measure of property damages to real and personal property, including the legal framework for measuring and proving property damages, diminution in value versus cost of repair, evidentiary requirements and experts, and practical tips and suggestions for subrogation professionals when analyzing the recove...

Pursuing a Spread Theory 26.08.2025

This episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, "Pursuing a Spread Theory," is hosted by Ron Pingitore, Partner, and Ryan Bennett, Associate. This episode discusses the topic of the applicability of pursuing a spread theory when dealing with a fire loss in subrogation claims. While pursuing a spread theory is more complicated due to added layers of investigation and discovery, it could be the second b...

Getting to Know Subro: Meet Bill Schmidt, Senior Partner, White and Williams Subrogation Department 05.08.2025

White and Williams has one of the longest-standing Subrogation Practices in the nation. This series of the Subro Sessions podcast entitled "Getting to Know Subro," is hosted by Lian Skaf, Partner. In the most recent episode, Lian interviews Bill Schmidt, Senior Partner, who will be retiring at the end of August after a 40+ year career practicing law. Bill shares how he plans to spend retirement, h...

Getting to Know Subro: Meet Katherine Dempsey, Associate, White and Williams Subrogation Department 27.05.2025

White and Williams has one of the longest-standing Subrogation Practices in the nation. This series of the Subro Sessions podcast, entitled "Getting to Know Subro," is hosted by Partner, Lian Skaf. In this episode, Lian interviews Associate, Katherine Dempsey, a member of the Subrogation Department, to discuss how she chose the area of Subrogation law to launch her legal career, her focus on famil...

The Lease Says What? A Closer Look at the Sutton Doctrine in Michigan 20.05.2025

This episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, "The Lease Says What? A Closer Look at the Sutton Doctrine in Michigan," is hosted by Katherine Dempsey, Melissa Kenney and Zachariah Sigda, Associates. This episode discusses the topic of the applicability of the Sutton Doctrine in states where this law is viewed on a case-by-case basis for subrogation claims related to property damage matters involving...

Speak Now or Forever Sign That Release – Part 2 15.04.2025

This episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, the second in the two-part series entitled: "Speak Now or Forever Sign That Release - Part 2," is hosted by Gus Sara and Lian Skaf, Partners. This episode discusses the topic of subrogation releases including guidance on writing indemnification provisions, what constitutes a valid subrogation claim by a carrier, and how to limit exposure while ensuring f...

Speak Now or Forever Sign That Release – Part 1 04.03.2025

This episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, the first of a two-part series entitled: "Speak Now or Forever Sign That Release - Part 1," is hosted by Gus Sara and Lian Skaf, Partners. This episode discusses the topic of subrogation settlement releases including guidance for the parties that draft the releases, obstacles that subrogation professionals typically run into, inclusion of the insured as...

Getting to Know Subro: Meet the White and Williams' Subrogation Department Chair, Chris Konzelmann 18.02.2025

White and Williams has one of the longest-standing Subrogation Practices in the nation. This series of the Subro Sessions podcast, entitled "Getting to Know Subro," is hosted by Lian Skaf, Partner. In this episode, Lian interviews Chris Konzelmann, Partner and Chair of the Subrogation Department, to discuss his 35 years with the firm while volunteering as a fire captain in Moorestown, New Jersey.

Builders Risk Losses: Are Additional Insureds Always Subrogation Proof? 17.12.2024

This episode of Subro Sessions, entitled "Builders Risk Losses: Are Additional Insureds Always Subrogation Proof?" is hosted by David Huberman, Partner. David covers the topic of builders risk losses and circumstances where the anti-subrogation rule may not bar subrogation against a responsible party who is also an additional insured under a builders risk policy, while emphasizing the importance o...

Part 2: How to Make the Public Sector an Ally and Not a 'Public Enemy' 15.10.2024

Partners, Lian Skaf and Matt Ferrie, are back for the second part of their series titled, "Part 2: How to Make the Public Sector an Ally and not a 'Public Enemy'." John Lightbody, CFI, CFEI, CFII, Chief Investigator and President of Find The Cause Investigations, LLC, joins Lian and Matt to continue their discussion on subrogation professionals who work with the public sector in large-loss fire sc...

How to Make the Public Sector an Ally and not a 'Public Enemy' 17.09.2024

Listen to the newest episode of Subro Sessions, hosted by Lian Skaf and Matthew Ferrie, Partners at White and Williams, entitled, "How to Make the Public Sector an Ally and not a 'Public Enemy'." John Lightbody, CFI, CFEI, CFII, Chief Investigator and President of Find The Cause Investigations, LLC, joins Lian and Matt to talk about the best practices for subrogation professionals when working wit...

Insured Made Whole Doctrine: Texas and Washington 20.08.2024

This episode of Subro Sessions, hosted by associates Zachariah Sigda and Katherine Dempsey, entitled, "Insured Made Whole Doctrine: Texas and Washington State," dives into the topic of the made whole doctrine. Zachariah and Katherine define the made whole doctrine and explain how the doctrine applies in both Texas and Washington state courts, using those states to show how the doctrine can vary st...

Water Losses 101: A Discussion of Common Causes of Water Losses and How to Investigate them – Part 2 16.07.2024

The newest episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, is hosted by Gus Sara, Partner, and Michael DeBona, Counsel, who are joined by guest J. Pablo Ross, PE, of Ross Engineering. The episode, entitled "Water Losses 101: A Discussion of Common Causes of Water Losses and How to Investigate Them – Part 2," gives insight into the role of the attorney in a joint-evidence investigation, steps that subrogati...

Water Losses 101: A Discussion of Common Causes of Water Losses and How to Investigate Them - Part 1 18.06.2024

The newest episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, is hosted by Gus Sara, Partner, and Michael DeBona, Counsel, who are joined by guest J. Pablo Ross, PE, of Ross Engineering. The episode, entitled "Water Losses 101: A Discussion of Common Causes of Water Losses and How to Investigate Them - Part 1," explores the most common property damage claim our subrogation team encounters. Gus, Michael and Pa...

Getting Control of an Accident Scene and Ensuring Evidence is Preserved 21.05.2024

The newest episode of the Subro Sessions podcast, hosted by associates, Ryan Bennett and Melissa Kenney, is entitled "Getting Control of an Accident Scene and Ensuring Evidence is Preserved." Ryan and Melissa discuss fire scene preservation and safeguarding evidence on water damage claims and in fire loss cases. They share three examples of scenarios in which acting fast, retaining proper investig...

Investigating Residential Electrical Fires Part 2 - Arcing and Arc Mapping 16.04.2024

Matthew Ferrie, Partner, is back again to host the newest episode of the Subro Sessions podcast. Bert Davis, Principal for Romauldi, Davidson, & Associates and BDA Engineering, joins Matt for the second episode on investigating residential electrical fires entitled, "Investigating Residential Electrical Fires Part II - Arcing and Arc Mapping." Bert and Matt dive into arc mapping and how it assists...

Pursuing Claims Against Minors and Their Parents 19.03.2024

Chris Konzelmann, Partner, hosts the newest episode of the Subro Sessions podcast entitled: "Pursuing Claims Against Minors and Their Parents." In this episode, Chris revisits a case and discusses the problems that may arise when subrogation efforts are targeted towards children and their parents and whether either can be held responsible for tort claims.

Stop Suing Yourself: A Brief Discussion on the Anti-Subrogation Rule 20.02.2024

The newest episode of the Subro Sessions podcast is out now. This episode is entitled, "Stop Suing Yourself: A Brief Discussion on the Anti-Subrogation Rule" and is hosted by Gus Sara, Partner, and Katherine Dempsey, Associate. Gus and Katherine share their expertise on the Anti-Subrogation Rule by discussing its history, purpose and how it applies in various states across the country.

Investigating Residential Electrical Fires – Part 1 16.01.2024

Matt Ferrie, Partner, is returning to host the newest episode of Subro Sessions. This episode is the first part of a series entitled "Investigating Residential Electrical Fires." Joining Matt is Bert Davis, Principal for Romauldi, Davidson & Associates and BDA Engineering. Matt and Bert address common misconceptions and factors to consider when investigating property damage subrogation cases in re...

Workers' Compensation Subrogation - Tales by the Water Cooler: Part II – We Got a New Claim, Now What? 19.12.2023

Brett Tishler, Partner, and Michael Abed, Associate, are back to host the newest episode of Subro Sessions. This is the second of a two-part podcast series, entitled "Workers' Compensation Subrogation - Tales by the Water Cooler: Part II– We Got a New Claim, Now What?" Brett and Michael are joined again by a surprise guest, Rob Caplan, Partner, to discuss a new workers' compensation subrogation ca...

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