Where Do We Go From Here?

Ravi Zacharias died on May 19, 2020, and amidst the flood of social media posts saying #thankyouRavi by Christian celebrities like Tim Tebow and ministry leaders like Louie Giglio, there have been the quiet reminders of Zacharias' alleged harassment of a woman in Canada. This is a meaty episode - not for the theologically faint of heart - as Jess and Devi talk about the Myth of the Christian Hero....

It's our first episode about queer Christianity, and Jenna De Witt joins us to talk about aromantic asexuality. We talk about what it's been like for her to navigate a church life and secular life that assumes everyone is sexually attracted to someone, and Jenna shares her calling with us for asexual people to know that they aren't alone. Full show notes here Join our conversation on Twitter and I...

Listen in to this lighthearted chat about Frozen 2 and the evolution of Disney princesses. Yes, we are heading into the unknown with Elsa, Anna, Olaf, and Christoph, but fear not - Elsa's in charge. And if all else fails, Anna will show us how to do the next right thing while Christoph is lost in the woods. What does Frozen 2 say about women in leadership, male and female relationships, and dealin...

We promised to bring you new tools for the toolkit of your life, and this episode? It's HUGE. Remember how we grew up with the narrative that every time we blew up at someone, the times we felt frustrated in traffic, when we withdrew into ourselves, that all of that was bad because somehow sin was eating us up inside? Listen to this episode and hear how our body is leading us to truth, to God. Lis...

You've heard the reasons why Christian men quit porn, but in continuing this conversation, we wanted to hear from someone outside the evangelical bubble. Coach Leo Tabibzadegan is not a Christian, but he decided to quit porn and masturbation and now coaches other men to do the same. Leo tells us how he used porn in the past, why he quit, and how quitting impacted his life. We also talk about the w...

This episode is for anyone who wants to better understand how pornography impacts evangelicals. We know what we say in public: porn is sin, it leads to destruction, and it harms marriages and families. But we also know evangelical men and women still view porn. Does pornography have unique significance for conservative Protestants? Dr. Samuel Perry, a sociologist, says yes. He studied pornography...

If you've heard that men have an innate, not-understandable need for sex, popular author Sheila Gregoire disagrees. She says, "the most deprived people in the bedroom are wives."  This episode will show you the way Christian sex books undermine a woman's sexual agency and a woman's sexual needs. There's another way, and we get into it. This episode is for adults only.  We talk about: the books Lov...

Are you tired of Christian living books and the simple answers they provide for the problems of life? Dr. Karen Swallow Prior joins us in this episode to talk about the way reading forms us, and how reading better books helps us become better thinkers and better agents of change in our culture and community. This episode is for you if you want to think deeper and need help figuring out what steps...

When we ended season 1, who knew that in mid April we would have been mostly at home without the same social structures we were used to? That's why we are starting off with a Covid Catch Up. How is everyone holding up after a month or more of self isolation and quarantine? We talk about what life is like with minimal touch and minimal social interactions as well as update you on what's happening i...

This episode is for you if you want to know more about where we are at as a community. We talk about your thoughts on premarital sex, porn, app dating, and same-sex relationships as we wrap up our first season untangling sexual ethics together. Join the conversation on Instagram and Twitter .  Full Show Notes Here Partner with us for $3/month to hear uncut interviews with guests AND get episodes o...

The finale for Netflix's reality show Love is Blind aired last week, and whether you know who Cameron and Lauren are, whatever you think of Jessica, or if you think reality dating shows are silly, there's something in our conversation for you. Listen in as Jess and Devi talk about what reality TV shows say about our culture when it comes to romance, dating, and marriage.  More and more people are...

Our shortest episode yet, you can hear Jess and Devi talk about two podcast episodes they've recently listened to that helped them think through sexual ethics. Devi recommends Melanated Faith by FaitthB and Kathryn Freeman , specifically Episode 3 Singleness and Purity Culture . But they've got a different angle on the single life as Christian African-American women in the church. It's an insightf...

How do we heal from the traumatic experiences? What are the different kinds of therapies out there? How do we forms supportive communities? These are some of the questions we discuss in this week's episode. We talk about the different forms of therapy, the differences between counselling for PTSD and complex trauma, why interviewing prospective therapists is a good idea, and phased treatment for s...

Trigger Warning: This episode contains multiple references to rape, sexual assault, and different forms of abuse and violence.  This episode is for you if you are wanting to understand how purity culture was and can still be traumatizing for some. It's for you if you've experienced trauma - physical, sexual, emotional, spiritual, or other forms - and are seeking a clearer understanding of your exp...

This episode is for you if you want to learn how to listen and talk to people who suffer. It can be easy to believe that the Christian life will inoculate us against heartbreak; that's certainly what purity culture books implied. Rachel Welcher discusses with us the way her divorce impacted her life, and she says, "Still to this day, people ask me, 'How can I avoid your fate?'  and I say, 'You can...

Trigger Warning: This episode contains references to sexual abuse, sexual assault, and rape. "My parents weren't the ones who perpetuated purity culture to me. It was the books, the books, the books. The reason why it was so damaging to my friends and I is we were reading them in private. I was internalizing these messages without any discernment." That's one way Rachel Welcher took in the message...

Jess, Devi, and Lindsey take your questions and stories in this week's episode and discuss them. What do you do if your married friends don't value your time as a single person? What happens when there's guilt from previous relationships? How do we parent without fear? Listen in to a candid conversation about all the things.  You can find this episode's show notes here. Join the conversation at In...

This conversation is for you if you've wondered what to do when singleness goes on longer than you were promised. Pastor and teacher Sarah Deutscher joins us for this week's conversation about the sexual prosperity gospel and singleness. We talk about what the kingdom of God is really like and what beliefs we have to set aside in order to know God. Sarah says to us, "The kingdom of God is an extra...

You know that sermon, the one where we were all promised that if we saved sex for marriage not only would we get a (great! godly!) spouse, but also a hot sex life. But what are the consequences of the belief that says, "If I do this then God will give me _____?" Jess and Devi talk about the impact of believing the Sexual Prosperity Gospel , as writer Katelyn Beaty calls it. What does entitlement d...

As we uncover more of purity culture's influences, we discuss what cultures have shaped our view on sexuality, marriage and singleness. Biblical culture? Christian culture? Broader culture? Popular culture?  For this discussion we're joined by Fuller Seminary professor and author, Kutter Callaway. He lectures in faith and culture but his expertise in purity culture was galvanised in his must-read...

Chewed up gum. Crumpled roses. Tape that lost its stickiness. We talk about these metaphors from purity culture with Dr. Sean McDowell, and we unpack - were these the best ways to talk about premarital sex? How were they harmful? What are better ways of discussing our sexual choices? And how can we be talking about it with young people today? Join us for a look back at 80s purity culture and for t...

Is "purity" the word the Bible uses to describe our sexual decisions? How easy is it to make the Bible say what we want it to say? What are tools that we need as we study the Bible for ourselves? Listen as we dissect the word "purity" as it is found in the Bible and examine the implications of believing that we are pure or impure. Full show notes here Talk to us on Twitter & Instagram Join the Lad...

Where Do We Go From Here? is untangling sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians. We are here to start a conversation with you about life after purity culture. You can use our conversations as a starting point with your people - friends, partners, family, neighbors, youth group and mom's groups - so that you can decide: where will you go from here? Full episode show notes here Partner with...

The era of purity rings and True Love Waits pledges may be over, you could stand around the fire of a burning down house and warm your hands, or you can rebuild. That's where we come in. Where Do We Go From Here? is a podcast untangling sexual ethics for a new generation of Christians. We aren't building a house. You are. But we want to equip you with psychological insights and sound theological f...