Jessie Sage

When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

Society EN ↓ 95 episodes

When We’re Not Hustling is a twice-monthly podcast that explores the lives and identities of sex workers outside our personas. Each episode features a long-form interview with a sex worker, where we talk about everything but work: personal philosophies, ambitions, family, relationships, passions, hobbies, mental and physical health, identity, spirituality, meaning-making, and more. On this show, we learn who sex workers are outside of the work they are known for. When We’re Not Hustling is an exploration of the people behind the fantasies.

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Author

Jessie Sage

Category

Society

Podcast website

nothustling.com

Latest episode

Mar 24, 2025

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Episodes

S1 E12: Poetry & Personas That Heal with Madeleine Blair 08.04.2024

This episode of When We're Not Hustling is an invitation into the writer's room: an intimate space to process anything and everything through the written word. Whether she is writing about sex work or topics unrelated, Madeleine Blair makes sense of the world through expertly crafted essays, vivacious poetry, and all other written creations. In this episode, Madeleine sits down with host and fello...

S1 E11 AP: Gardening as a Community Resource with Phoenix Calida 03.04.2024

Host Jessie Sage and producer Emily Foster digest S1 E11: Gardening as a Community Resource with Phoenix Calida, talking about gardening, crafting, gendered socialization, and so much more. 

S1 E11: Gardening as a Community Resource with Phoenix Calida 01.04.2024

How can gardening be a radical act of sustainability and community care? How do we build community with neighbors? For Phoenix Calida, gardening is not only a calming ritual of self-care, but also a way to create and sustain community. In this episode of  When We're Not Hustling , host Jessie Sage sits down with Phoenix to talk about gardening: prepping, homesteading, canning, the sleeping behavio...

S1 E10 AP: Aging & Sexuality with Seska 27.03.2024

Jessie and Emily talk about aging, changing bodies, and how to regain your sense of self across the years.

S1 E10: Aging & Sexuality with Seska 25.03.2024

What does sex look like over the course of a lifetime? How does aging impact relationships and sex, and why do so few people talk about it? In this episode of When We're Not Hustling , host Jessie Sage sits down with veteran sex worker, Seska, to dive into aging and sexuality. Seska has worked in the sex industry for 25 years, and focuses her current cam work on aging and sexuality. In the episode...

S1 E9: Fat Liberation & Joy with Mx. Pucks A'Plenty 18.03.2024

"Fat liberation  is   the  deliberate  tearing  down  of  systems  that  have  created  a  world  where  fat  people  are  denied  full  participation  in  society  and  life." Mx. Pucks A'Plenty What is the connection between burlesque and fat liberation? How is fat liberation different and more more radical than body positivity? How are fat folks organizing and using activism to create a world w...

S1 E8 AP: Ritual & Self Care with Ty Rose 13.03.2024

Emily Foster and Jessie Sage discuss the boundaries of self care, fasting, boundaries, and more on this episode of the WWNH After Party.

S1 E8: Ritual & Self-Care with Ty Rose 11.03.2024

What does it mean to invest in self-care?  Host Jessie Sage and guest Ty Rose delve into the benefits, the importance, and the impact of ritual and self-care. Ty discusses self-care rituals both big and small, from doing a multi-day fast in the Bahamas, to incorporating boundaries into her relationships at home. Whether it's her daily break from all devices and social media, or her meditation and...

S1 E7 AP: Rope Bondage & Shibari (Part 1 & 2) 07.03.2024

After Party! Jessie and Emily talk about Jessie's first experience with Shibari. Pittsburgh City Paper  Shibari article by Jessie Sage:  Shibari, or rope bondage, can bring pleasure, pain, connection, and sometimes major surprises   People:  Hosts: Jessie Sage and Emily Foster Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Sponsor:  Assembly Four    

S1 E7: Rope Bondage & Shibari (Part 2) with Melissa Milk 05.03.2024

In Part 2 of this 2-episode series, host Jessie Sage sits down with rigger Melissa Milk to talk about the rope scene they did together.  This episode touches on ADHD and neurodivergence, the sensory expreince of rope, the responsibility tops have to keep rope bottoms safe, aftercare, fatness, and more.  If you missed it, make sure to listen to Part 1 of this episode where Jessie talks with profess...

S1 E6: Rope Bondage & Shibari (Part 1) with Hunny Daniels 04.03.2024

What does it mean to expand the notion of sex? How can we discover pleasure outside of a traditional focus on genitals and penetration? For Hunny Daniels, professional submissive and a member of the BDSM community, rope bondage provides space for them to engage with sexual gratification in a new way. In Part 1 of this 2-episode series, host Jessie Sage sits down with Hunny to talk about the ins an...

S1 E5 AP: Music, Pleasure, and Prayer with Mary Muse 21.02.2024

Producer Emily Foster and host Jessie Sage debrief the wide-ranging conversion with Mary Muse in Episode 5 about everything from teaching to spirituality to sexuality.  

S1 E5: Music, Pleasure, and Prayer with Mary Muse 19.02.2024

Mary Muse—former teacher turned sex worker—has had a lifelong passion for music, which she only recently began to incorporate into her sex work. In this episode of When We're Not Husting , host Jessie Sage and guest Mary Muse delve into their shared experiences of leaving the teaching profession and moving into sex work. Mary talks about her love for music and its impact on her life, and her decis...

S1 E4 AP: Being a Parent to an Adult Sex Worker with Jessie Sage's Mom 15.02.2024

After Party! Producer Emily Foster and host Jessie Sage sit down to talk about their feelings about the episodes. This time, they diver deep into the conversation with Jessie's mom and what it says about motherhood more broadly. You can find the written version of the interview with my mom on  Tryst's Blog .  Host: Jessie Sage ( @sapiotextual ) Guest: Jessie's Mom Producer: Emily Foster Intern: An...

S1 E4: Being a Parent to an Adult Sex Worker with Jessie Sage's Mom 12.02.2024

Sex work stigma runs deep, so it is common for parents of adult sex-working children (especially when they first find out) to feel shame about their kids' choice to enter the sex trades.  In this very special fourth episode of When We're Not Hustling , host Jessie Sage sits down with her mom to discuss her mom's experience of being the parent of an adult sex worker. In a simultaneously intellectua...

S1 E3: Anarchist Organizing & Community Care with Lucy Bloom 29.01.2024

In Episode 3, host Jessie Sage sits down with author, sex worker, and anarchist organizer Lucy Bloom to dive deep into what putting anarchist philosophy into action looks like on a political, social, and personal level. They discuss anarchism as an anti-hierarchical, anti-racist, and anti-capitalist movement. Lucy and Jessie also share their personal experiences of caretaking and the events that l...

S1 E2 AP: Leaving Evangelicalism with Miss Koda V 18.01.2024

After Party!  When We're Not Hustling producer Emily Foster and host Jessie Sage recap their feelings about insights about the podcast episodes. This time they reflect on the impact of religion on culture and family relationships through Pittsburgh-based dominatrix Miss Koda V 's story of leaving evangelicism. Host: Jessie Sage ( @sapiotextual ) Producer: Emily Foster Music: Benjamin J Benamati Th...

S1 E2: Leaving Evangelicalism with Miss Koda V 15.01.2024

American culture is steeped in Christianity. Those who have decided to extricate themselves from the Church offer a unique perspective on the impact of religion, and what it means to leave those traditions behind. In Episode 2 of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Pittsburgh-based dominatrix Miss Koda V to discuss her experience leaving evangelical Christianity.  Miss Koda V...

S1 E1 AP: "Is Everything But Possible?" with Trip Richards 10.01.2024

Host Jessie Sage and producer Emily foster digest E1 S1: Is Everything But Possible for Sex Workers, talking about what they learned from the discussion with guest Trip Richards.

S1 E1: Is "Everything But" Possible for Sex Workers? With Guest Trip Richards 07.01.2024

In late-stage capitalism, who we are is often conflated with what we do . This has particular consequences for sex workers, whose labor is heavily stigmatized and criminalized. The hope of the show is to detangle this conflation and give sex workers space to talk about their lives outside their work.   In Episode 1 of When We're Not Hustling , host Jessie Sage and guest Trip Richards—10-year veter...

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