Jessie Sage

When We're Not Hustling: Sex Workers Talking About Everything But

Society EN ↓ 95 episodes

When We’re Not Hustling is a twice-monthly podcast that explores the lives and identities of sex workers outside our personas. Each episode features a long-form interview with a sex worker, where we talk about everything but work: personal philosophies, ambitions, family, relationships, passions, hobbies, mental and physical health, identity, spirituality, meaning-making, and more. On this show, we learn who sex workers are outside of the work they are known for. When We’re Not Hustling is an exploration of the people behind the fantasies.

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Author

Jessie Sage

Category

Society

Podcast website

nothustling.com

Latest episode

Mar 24, 2025

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Episodes

S2 E16: It's Not Funny to Get Punched in the Face, but I Do It Anyway with Kaytlin Bailey 14.10.2024

Kaytlin Bailey discusses her show "Whore's Eye View," which combines comedy with a historical perspective on sex work, blending stand-up comedy with a real history lecture. She shares how her father's military background and her experiences as a sex worker influenced her writing, exploring themes of exploitation and violence across different professions. Through her show, Kaytlin aims to provide a...

S2 E15 AP: One Man's Play on Words, Life, and Skin 09.10.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts, Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Melissa Milk, engage in a lively discussion about their personal experiences and reflections on the topics of spirituality, sexuality, and consciousness. They start by expressing their love for October and share some amusing anecdotes about Halloween costumes and quirky questions from clients....

Bonus: S2 E15: "I Got a New Tattoo" by Galen Grace 08.10.2024

Galen Grace, our S2 E15 podcast guest, shares this piece he wrote. We liked it so much, we decided to make it a bonus episode!  Galen Grace was born in Wisconsin, grew up in Massachusetts, and presently resides in Pennsylvania, but he lives wherever he happens to be at that moment, feels at home everywhere in the universe, and steps through almost any door that opens to him. He's worked in academi...

S2 E15: One Man's Play on Words, Life, and Skin with Galen Grace 07.10.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," Jessie Sage interviews Galen Grace, a Pittsburgh-based tantric massage therapist and writer who shares his profound spiritual journey and life experiences, including a near-death health crisis, spiritual awakenings through plant medicine, and the integration of his spiritual practice into everyday life. Galen's spoken word performance recounts his tran...

S2 E14 AP: I Wrote a Ghost Story About the Dungeon That I Worked in for Years 02.10.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," hosts Jessie Sage and Emily Foster are joined by guest host Melodie KG for her final episode in September. The trio discusses their experiences with managing multiple public personas and the complications that arise from separating their professional and private lives. They delve into the challenges sex workers face when publishing und...

Bonus: S2 E14: "Sacrifice" by Stephanie Parent 02.10.2024

A poem, read by the author. To hear the full episode/interview with Stephanie Parent, listen to it HERE .  You can find Stephanie: Website:  stephanieparent.net X:  @sc parent Instagram:  @sc parent

S2 E14: I Wrote a Ghost Story About the Dungeon That I Worked in for Years with Stephanie Parent 30.09.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," Jessie Sage interviews writer and professional submissive Stephanie Parent. Stephanie discusses her journey into sex work, particularly her time working at a commercial dungeon in Los Angeles. She shares insights into the complexities of being a pro-submissive, the community and support among women in the industry, and the cathartic process of writing...

S2 E13 AP: I'm a DJ and I'm Obsessed With Pop Music (Not Taylor Swift) 25.09.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling at the Afterparty," hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, along with guest host  Melodie KG, discuss a variety of topics, including the recent acquisition of 501(C)(3) status for their show, allowing fans to make tax-deductible donations. Jessie shares a humorous and embarrassing story from her childhood, highlighting the pitfalls of dressing up for school sp...

S2 E13: I'm a DJ and I'm Obsessed With Pop Music (Not Taylor Swift) with Courtney Trouble 23.09.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," Jessie Sage interviews Courtney Trouble, a longtime friend who has been involved in the queer porn industry for over two decades. Courtney discusses their journey from starting in the queer punk scene in Olympia, Washington, to moving to San Francisco, where they became a central figure in the queer porn movement. They also talk about their involvement...

S2 E12 AP: Actually, What I Do on My Own Time Is Nobody's Business 18.09.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Melodie KG discuss their recent interview with Dominique Rystan. The conversation centers around the critique and premise of the show. Dominique's primary concern is about the extent to which sex workers — who are often public — should share their personal lives and how much of their existence becom...

S2 E12: Actually, What I Do on My Own Time Is Nobody's Business with Dominique Rystan 16.09.2024

In the podcast episode "When We're Not Hustling," host Jessie Sage interviews Dominique Rystan, a seasoned porn performer and dominatrix. Dominique shares her journey of maintaining a clear separation between her work and personal life. She emphasizes that while she enjoys her work, she prefers to keep her hobbies and personal experiences private to avoid them being consumed as content. This separ...

S2 E11 AP: Conversational Pilgrimages That Shape Our Lives 11.09.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling the After-Party," Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Melodie KG discuss Amber Délice, who runs an immersive theater business intertwined with her sex work. The hosts express their fascination with Amber's unique approach, which includes elaborate, long-term dates and specially curated experiences designed to foster intimacy and self-reflection. They marvel a...

S2 E11: Conversational Pilgrimages That Shape Our Lives with Amber Délice 09.09.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," host Jessie Sage engages in a deep and insightful conversation with Amber Délice, an independent provider and companion based in Boulder, Colorado. Amber explains how her work in immersive theater involves creating transformative and artistic experiences for individuals and couples, often helping them navigate life changes, emotional challenges, and re...

S2 E10 AP: Monster Romances and Other Ways to Wind Down 04.09.2024

In the latest episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The Afterparty," hosts Jessie and Emily welcome Melodie KG as the guest host for September! The episode kicks off with a light-hearted conversation on various topics, including Melodie's upcoming column on sex work and counterculture, inspired by Jessie. The hosts also dive into the nuances of sex work, discussing the challenges and misconceptions...

S2 E10: Monster Romances and Other Ways to Wind Down with Adrie Rose 02.09.2024

Adrie Rose is a Jamaican-American writer and photographer from Florida. Adrie discusses her upcoming book titled "I Hate My Job," which explores the ambivalent feelings sex workers often have about their profession. Additionally, she shares insights into her podcast "Pages and Prejudice," which she co-hosts with Stitch to discuss romance literature and media. Adrie also talks about her personal in...

S2 E9 AP: I Used My Dirty Slut Money to Buy Big Ass Tools 28.08.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling the After-Party," hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Ashley Ramos explore the remarkable journey of Maya Bates, a cam girl and clip producer who leads an all-women construction crew. They delve into the unique challenges women face in male-dominated industries, such as overcoming sexism and building trust, while also highlighting the importance of crea...

S2 E9: I Used My Dirty Slut Money to Buy Big Ass Tools with Maiia Bates 26.08.2024

Episode 9 features a converation with Maiia Bates , a 10-year veteran of the sex industry. Maiia discusses her journey from live shows to content creation and the burnout she has experienced over time. She now runs an all-women construction company in her town, providing safe and trustworthy services primarily to vulnerable populations like elderly folks and women. Maiia shares her passion for til...

S2 E8 AP: Disabled Folks Need Hand Jobs, Too 21.08.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling the Afterparty," hosts Jessie Sage, Ashley Ramos, and Emily Foster delve into Amber Glow's episode. Amber offers a unique perspective on the sex industry, emphasizing the crucial role of human touch and connection, particularly for disabled individuals. She discusses the financial challenges her clients face and the ethical dilemmas she encounters in her...

S2 E8: Disabled Folks Need Hand Jobs, Too with Amber Glow 19.08.2024

In this episode of WWNH, Jessie speaks wth Amber Glow, a dedicated sex work and disability rights advocate. Amber shares her experiences in sex work, with a strong emphasis on the healing components of her work. She discusses the obstacles she encountered, like moving from San Francisco to Florida, adapting to cultural changes, and managing her disabilities. Despite these challenges, Amber is comm...

S2 E7 AP: An Honest Woman's Review on Marriage and Sex Work 14.08.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," host Jessie Sage and her co-hosts, Emily Foster and Ashley Ramos discuss the complexities and emotional intricacies of sex work, drawing from Charlotte Shane's books "An Honest Woman" and "Prostitute Laundry." They delve into the contrasting experiences of being a younger, unattached sex worker versus an older, married one, highlighting the different t...

S2 E7: An Honest Woman's Review on Marriage and Sex Work with Charlotte Shane 12.08.2024

In this week's episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage dives deep with author Charlotte Shane about her latest book, An Honest Woman . Their conversation explores the intricate relationships between sex workers and clients, the juggling act of personal and professional lives, and the distinctive dynamics of marriages. Charlotte shares how her time in the sex industry has influenced he...

S2 E6 AP: I Fought the Law and Won... So I Kept on Fighting with Jelena Vermillion 07.08.2024

In this episode we introduce our August After Party co-host Ashley Ramos, a painter from Pittsburgh and a long-time friend of the host. The episode centers around a diverse discussion involving a writer, a painter, and a musician, with Emily, the producer. The conversation highlights the importance of collaboration. A significant portion of the discussion revolves around an episode featuring Jelen...

S2 E6: I Fought the Law and Won... So I Kept on Fighting with Jelena Vermilion 05.08.2024

This week on When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage talks to Jelena Vermilion, a trans femme sex worker, activist, and the founder of SWAP Hamilton . Jelena's extensive advocacy work includes fighting for the decriminalization of sex work and raising awareness about police violence and systemic harassment faced by sex workers. Jelena shares her personal journey, including her decision to pursue...

S2 E5 AP: Dancing Became My Life & My Love with Emery Fields 31.07.2024

In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After Party," host Jessie Sage, producer Emily Foster, and Jessie's mom discuss their experiences and thoughts about Emery Fields' interview.  Jessie praises Emery's professionalism, kindness, and unique ability to make clients feel comfortable, sharing how she initially reached out to him and their subsequent interactions. Emily and Jessie also ref...

S2 E5: Dancing Became My Life & My Love with Emery Fields 29.07.2024

Emery Fields — the first cis male escort featured on the podcast — shares his background and experiences. He talks about his journey from being a professional dancer, involved in teaching, performing, and choreographing, to becoming a full-service provider during the pandemic when the entertainment industry shut down. Emery discusses how his skills and experiences as a dancer translated well into...

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