“What Even Is This?” with Jane and Jordan

Fantasy summer self is thriving. She's reading all the books on her TBR, lounging by the pool, watching critically acclaimed television, and somehow becoming a more interesting person every day. Actual summer self? She's reheating coffee, folding laundry, rewatching comfort shows, and trying to remember what day it is. In this episode of What Even Is This? , Jane and Jordan embrace the reality of...

Summer is supposed to be magical... at least that's what we're told. But what happens when your summer feels more ordinary than extraordinary? When everyone else seems to be making memories, taking trips, and creating Pinterest-worthy moments while you're just trying to keep up with work, kids, and everyday life? In this episode, Jane and Jordan explore the pressure to make summer feel meaningful...

Ever find yourself staring into the fridge at 5 p.m. wondering what you’re supposed to feed everyone… again? Same. In Episode 2 of What Even Is This?, Jane and Jordan dive into the chaos of feeding families during summer break — from endless snacks and lunch burnout to the meals we keep making because everyone will actually eat them. This episode is full of real-life parenting moments, funny confe...

Summer is supposed to feel relaxing and magical… so why does it sometimes feel harder than the school year? In this kickoff episode of our Summer Survival Guide series, Jane and Jordan are getting honest about the chaos that can come with summer parenting. From disappearing routines and endless snack requests to working from home with kids around full-time, we’re talking about the emotional load m...

We made it to the end of Season 1… and we’re still asking the same question: "What are we doing here?" In this finale episode, Jane and Jordan pause to reflect on what it’s actually been like to build this podcast in real time—while navigating work, motherhood, exhaustion, and the everyday chaos that never quite turns off. This isn’t a polished wrap-up or a listener Q&A. It’s an honest conversatio...

What happens when achievement becomes part of your identity? In this episode of What Even Is This? , Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone sit down with leadership coach Emma Sharma to unpack a question many high-achieving women quietly wrestle with: What if your worth isn’t tied to your productivity? For working moms and ambitious professionals, the pressure to constantly perform can make rest feel u...

What if the big secret of adulthood is that no one actually knows what they’re doing? Not your boss. Not the mom with the perfectly packed lunches. Not the person confidently leading the meeting. This week on What Even Is This?, hosts Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone talk about the strange moment in adulthood when you realize you’re the adult in the room… and it feels slightly illegal. From impos...

Hosts: Jane Doerman & Jordan Johnstone Guest: Cheyanne Skeldon Are we actually failing… or are we just measuring our lives with the wrong ruler? In this episode, Jane and Jordan sit down with certified LifePlan coach Cheyanne Skeldon to unpack the pressure so many women feel to constantly achieve, produce, and prove. Some days you accomplish a lot and still feel behind. Other days you’re barely ha...

Why does one “K.” feel like a declaration of war? Why does making friends as an adult require three calendar confirmations and a childcare miracle? And when did marriage start feeling like co-managing a small, chaotic company? In this episode of What Even Is This?, Jane and Jordan unpack the strange, hilarious, and occasionally fragile world of adult relationships — friendships, partners, coworker...

Why does everything feel so loud… all the time? In this episode, Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone dive into a season so many of us are living in: overstimulated, overwhelmed, and honestly… a little over it. From Slack notifications and school emails to social media scroll spirals and the mental load that never clocks out, we’re talking about what noise overload actually does to our brains—and why...

Why does rest feel so hard—even when we desperately need it? In this episode of What Even Is This?, hosts Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone dig into burnout, overwhelm, and the guilt that shows up the moment we try to slow down. If you’ve ever felt exhausted but unable to rest because there’s always more to do, this conversation is for you. Jane and Jordan are joined by Mindy Caliguire, author and...

Life’s a mess—let’s talk about it. In this episode, hosts Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone lean into the season of life where everything feels new, overwhelming, and completely unscripted. You know the one—where life is moving fast, control is an illusion, and everyone else seems to know what they’re doing (they don’t). From internet chaos to real-life “SEND HELP” moments, Jane and Jordan talk ho...

Ever feel like everyone else has their life together—and you’re quietly falling behind? In this episode, hosts Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone name one of the most common (and isolating) spirals of adulthood: comparison. Joined by leadership coach Kristin Bartholomew, this episode explores why the “put-together life” is often an illusion, how rejection and detours shape our stories, and what act...

Life’s a mess—let’s talk about it. Welcome to the pilot episode of What Even Is This? , the podcast where we spiral out loud about faith, work, motherhood, and the chaos of everyday adulthood. Hosts Jane Doerman and Jordan Johnstone kick things off by asking the question no one prepared us for: What is the most surprising part of being an adult who’s also a career girly and a mom? From Googling ba...