Wealth Beyond Riches

The world is changing faster than any organization can keep up with. The question isn't whether to adapt — it's whether you have a framework for it, or whether you're just reacting until you burn out. Chuck Bomar is back for part two. This time we go deep on the framework behind his new book Pivot Now — what's actually happening culturally and socially that's leaving leaders disoriented, why the o...

PODCAST DESCRIPTION Most business owners say they're building a company. Chuck Bomar says he's building people and using a company to do it. That one shift changes everything — who you hire, why you stay up at night, and what success actually looks like when you close your eyes. Chuck is a pastor, entrepreneur, author, and former President and CEO of Barna Group. He's bought and operated over a do...

What if the problem isn't what you're saying, but why you're saying it? In part two of this conversation, host Tim Meisenheimer picks up right where things left off with Jason VanRuler, therapist, coach, and author. This time they go deep into Jason's new book, Discovering Your Communication Type , built around five distinct styles: Peacemaker, Advocate, Thinker, Harbor, and Spark. Jason breaks do...

What if the thing holding you back isn't a lack of answers, but a lack of permission? In this conversation, host Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Jason VanRuler, therapist, coach, and author, to talk about what it actually looks like to work with leaders under pressure. Jason's path to this work started with a 3.98 GPA, a rejection from a private practice internship, and an unexpected stint working...

If your child's future job doesn't even exist yet, what should school be preparing them for? In this continuation of the conversation with Dr. Tom Stoner, the focus shifts from what classical education is to why it matters for the future. As technology accelerates and entire industries rise and fall — from programming to AI — the question becomes urgent: Is education about training for specific ca...

Is modern education feeding students intellectual junk food — or cultivating a taste for what lasts? Dr. Tom Stoner joins the conversation to unpack what classical education actually is, why it's growing rapidly across the country, and what shifted in American schooling over the past 75–100 years. From the influence of the Enlightenment to the rise of progressive education, Tom explains how the mo...

Welcome back to the second half of this powerful conversation with pastor and author Steve Carter.  In this episode, Steve and host Tim Meisenheimer pivot from the pain of transition to the surprising power of generosity and the "weird, mysterious, but lovely" way that grief and hope can coexist . Steve challenges the cultural definition of hope—once viewed by the Romans as a "mental illness"—and...

A leadership calling can unravel faster than anyone expects. Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Steve Carter , bestselling author and former lead teaching pastor at Willow Creek, to talk about integrity, grief, and what it means to choose the right path when the cost is public, painful, and personal. Steve shares the story of preparing to step into one of the most visible church leadership roles in t...

In Part 2 of this conversation, Tim Meisenheimer and Justin Whitmel Earley shift from habits and formation into the deeply human realities of business, leadership, generosity, and trust. Justin pulls back the curtain on what really happens when people buy, sell, or transition businesses — and why the hardest parts are rarely technical. Drawing from his work as a business attorney and firm owner, J...

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches , Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Justin Whitmel Earley —business lawyer, author, former missionary, and habit-builder—to explore why lasting change doesn't start with willpower or ideas, but with practices. Justin shares how an intense season of anxiety and burnout early in his legal career forced him to confront a painful disconnect between what he believe...

In Part 2 of this conversation with Riley Fuller , we move from origin story to impact story — the daily, tangible work of Humanity & Hope United and what Riley has learned about leadership, hope, and living generously. Riley and Tim Meisenheimer explore how his leadership shifted from managing by force in the corporate world to leading as a servant — listening first, empowering others, and buildi...

What happens when your life plan collapses — and a moment of unexpected clarity forces you to redefine purpose? In Part 1 of this conversation, Tim Meisenheimer talks with Riley Fuller , founder of Humanity & Hope United and Generous Coffee. Riley grew up as the seventh generation in his family's Indiana food business, destined for stability and success. But heartbreak, addiction, and eventually j...

If the first half of Liz Fay's story was about courage and agency — choosing to step away from a 19-year teaching career — this half is about what comes next: the open space. Host Tim Meisenheimer and Liz talk about learning to rest before life demands it, the discipline of Sabbath, and why "no shoulds" became her rule for peace. Together, they explore how to practice rest without guilt, why recei...

What happens when generosity becomes your answer to scarcity? In this heartfelt conversation, host Tim Meisenheimer sits down with Liz Fay — a longtime friend, fellow teacher, and his very first financial planning client — to explore how money follows values. Liz shares how she learned finance at the library before ever carrying a balance, why generosity became her response to fear, and what it lo...

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches , host Tim Meisenheimer continues his conversation with pastor and author Heath Hardesty , diving into themes from his new book, All Things Together: How Apprenticeship to Jesus Is the Way of Flourishing in a Fragmented World. Heath unpacks the deep connection between joy and generosity , sharing how a life aligned with God's abundance leads to greater freed...

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches , Tim sits down with Heath Hardesty —pastor, author of All Things Together (releasing October 14), speaker, entrepreneur, and father of five. Heath shares his unlikely journey from working as a plumber's apprentice to becoming a pastor in Silicon Valley, and how an existential crisis reshaped his faith and purpose. With wisdom that blends theology, literatur...

In part two of our conversation, David Green and Bill High share more about the principles that have guided Hobby Lobby and the Green family for generations. David unpacks the practices that keep him grounded as a CEO—prioritizing family, focusing on the "main thing," and resisting the distractions of endless work. Bill offers perspective on how intentional family culture shapes legacy, and why th...

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches , Tim sits down with David Green , founder and CEO of Hobby Lobby, and Bill High , author and legacy consultant, to explore the story behind one of America's most unique businesses—and the values that shaped it. From a $600 loan and handmade picture frames to over 1,000 stores nationwide, David shares Hobby Lobby's humble beginnings, his parents' influence,...

In Part 2 of our conversation with leadership advisor Brad Lomenick , we dive into what it really means to find clarity as a leader. Brad unpacks the difference between calling and assignment , showing how leaders can navigate seasons of transition without losing their sense of purpose. He shares his "four quadrants" framework—wiring, passion, God's story, and sustainability—as a practical tool fo...

In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches , Tim sits down with Brad Lomenick—strategic advisor, author, podcaster, and leadership connector—to explore the difference between networkers and connectors . Brad shares why clarity is essential for avoiding burnout, how connectors add long-term value, and why generosity and curiosity are the real currencies of influence. From lessons learned as a ranch wr...

What Happens When You Stop Chasing Wins—and Start Building a Life That Matters In Part 2 of our Wealth Beyond Riches conversation, John Olinger opens up about the shift that changed everything: moving from high-profile projects to high-impact relationships. John spent years leading digital marketing at Nike—launching global initiatives like Nike Adapt and working on campaigns with icons like Kobe...

John Olinger on Worthy Wins, Strategic Living & Investing in What Matters Most In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches , Tim sits down with John Olinger , author of Worthy Wins , to explore how to live a story that actually matters. From his time at Nike to his work coaching leaders and writing his book, John has seen the difference between chasing success and pursuing significance. He unpacks wha...

In Part 2 of our conversation with Dan Cumberland—founder of The Meaning Movement—we go even deeper into what truly matters after success. We unpack what comes after the big exit: 🧭 How do you find meaning once the business is sold? 💡 What does it look like to model abundance and purpose to your kids? 🎁 And how do you use wealth to create impact, not just comfort? Dan shares his framework for p...

What does it really mean to find purpose in your work—and how can technology like AI help you get there? In this episode of Wealth Beyond Riches , Tim sits down with Dan Cumberland —entrepreneur, AI strategist, and founder of The Meaning Movement —to explore the deeper questions behind calling, career transitions, and the future of meaningful work. Dan opens up about his journey from youth ministr...

In Part 2 of  Wealth Beyond Riches , host Tim Meisenheimer continues his inspiring conversation with Jessica Jackley —co-founder of Kiva , professor at USC, and partner at Untapped Capital. Jessica opens up about the creative mindset behind building a values-driven organization , the lessons learned from scaling Kiva, and the underestimated potential of nonprofit innovation. She also shares how pe...