Helen Werner and Liz Holden
We Want To Believe: An X-Files Podcast
Sisters, scientists, and lifelong X-Files fans. Join bioarcheologist Helen and physicist Liz each week as they discuss the science and culture behind each X-Files episode. Come for the science and 90s nostalgia, stay for the detours into absurdity.
Author
Helen Werner and Liz Holden
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Latest episode
Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
57 - Lightning Boy ("D.P.O.") 18.10.2024 1:12:07
Liz and Helen are back! Today they discuss X-Files Season 3 Episode 3, "DPO," along with the threat of coprnices, fly eyes, Helen's foray into Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and people they don't care for. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-f...
56 - Bottom Thirties ("Paper Clip") 10.05.2024 1:07:46
Our season finale! Liz and Helen discuss "Paper Clip," plus they consider 'man vs bear' question, have fun with statistics in the Monty Hall problem, and recall a classic story of an old friend, a random family, and a tree that did not serve as a good hiding spot. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePo...
55 - Chicago! 03.05.2024 58:55
Helen and Liz hit the road! A trip to the famously haunted Drake Hotel in Chicago involves the typical nonsense, including blocking the closet door with a chair-ironing-board-shelf-cushion combo, deciding who we'd most like to be haunted by, and Liz swearing at Chicago traffic. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeW...
REVIEW DAY: Listener Questions 19.04.2024 56:22
It's a review day, class! We're taking a two-week break, so enjoy this "review day," and hear our answers to listener questions from two years ago. (This is the origin of the idea of Liz hoping she could learn to dunk a basketball.) Also, submit your questions for us, for a future episode! 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Ins...
54 - Annoying White Women ("The Blessing Way") 12.04.2024 44:36
Helen and Liz discuss "The Blessing Way," plus the Peewee Herman hypnosis experiment, inspirational posters, and the name Turtle. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com Buy Liz's young a...
53 - The Haunted Piano ("Anasazi") 05.04.2024 49:17
Liz and Helen discuss "Anasazi." Plus, some linguistics update, Louie the raccoon, the question Helen won't ask a friend's brother, and the reason Liz got married. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobeli...
52 - Spongy Brain Bad ("Our Town") 29.03.2024 1:04:01
Helen and Liz discuss the X-Files episode "Our Town," along with talking yourself into fatal insomnia, sinister rock tumblers, and determining when it's safe to eat your friends. Plus, Helen's haunted hotel experience. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or y...
51 - The Brain Suck ("Soft Light") 22.03.2024 1:03:11
Helen and Liz discuss "Soft Light," plus unicorns made of dark matter, coatimundis ruining the vibe, and two separate occasions of drunk science education. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@g...
50 - Mars! 50th episode special 15.03.2024 1:10:00
All about Mars, with our guest Dr. Matt Siegler. Plus, space cocktails, the best type of fake dirt, and Vegemite. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com Buy Liz's young adult novel, Migh...
49 - Armadillo Advice ("F. Emasculata") 08.03.2024 40:26
Liz and Helen discuss "F. Emasculata," an episode perfect for someone who studied parasitology and epidemiology. Alas, Liz did not study those things. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail....
48 - Name Helen's Dog ("The Calusari") 01.03.2024 1:06:04
Helen and Liz discuss "The Calusari," and Helen is filled with righteous anger. Plus, the search for gluten-free samosas, why the TSA stops Helen and not Liz, and the Fluke Man's identity. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style s...
47 - I wish it was the Fiji Mermaid ("Humbug") 23.02.2024 1:02:32
Liz and Helen discuss "Humbug," along with Sweatin' to the Oldies, geeks, when a bookshelf is a pantry, and the correct number of people to know who want to hang from hooks. Plus, Liz tries to sell you something. You should listen to her. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your quest...
46 - Follow the Rats ("Død Kalm") 16.02.2024 1:03:10
Helen and Liz discuss "Død Kalm," along with time-traveling bison, black holes, Malaysia Flight 370, and Liz's theory regarding who, exactly, is chewing through their friend's car's wiring. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style...
45 - Liz Repeatedly Screams ("Fearful Symmetry" / "Agent of Chaos") 10.02.2024 55:54
Liz and Helen very briefly discuss "Fearful Symmetry," but mostly it's time to talk about "Agent of Chaos," the young adult novel about a teenage Mulder, which came out in 2017. Also, recommendations for shorts, bone arrows, and a video game Liz is NOT okay with. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod...
44 - An Increasing Number of Killer Clowns ("End Game") 02.02.2024 55:02
Helen and Liz discuss "End Game," along with Florida alien sightings, clone science, snitching, and Liz's habit of cutting up little pieces of paper. Plus, Helen fails to understand Amazon's on-screen options. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own s...
43 - The House With No Corners ("Colony") 26.01.2024 1:01:36
Liz and Helen discuss "Colony," spiritualists, anime, being confused about geography (as usual), and that it does, indeed, hurt to be hit by a car. Plus, an eerie woodland listener story! 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style st...
42 - Graverobbing is Uncool! ("Fresh Bones") 19.01.2024 1:08:32
Helen and Liz discuss the episode "Fresh Bones," along with Haitian history, puffer fish, the Highgate Vampire, somersault lessons, and Liz's lack of household maintenance. Also, Dolls! Dolls! Dolls! 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-fi...
41 - Liz, You Weren't There! ("Die Hand Die Verletzt") 05.01.2024 56:30
Liz and Helen discuss the episode "Die Hand Die Verletzt," along with squirrel nests, false memories, and Dee Snider. Plus, Liz makes Helen play a game. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmai...
40 - The Crown Prince of Russia ("Irresistible") 29.12.2023 1:05:57
Helen and Liz discuss "Irresistible," and the show's scariest villain. Also, Taskmaster for dogs, romantasy, the weird noise in Helen's office, The Gift of Fear, and Peak Yogurt. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories her...
39 - Where's Nebraska? ("Aubrey") 22.12.2023 1:05:22
Liz and Helen discuss the episode "Aubrey," the Mysterious Ghost, werewolf lights, bone identification, and the one person/mouse allowed to call someone "Little Sister." Plus, some struggles with geography. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spoo...
38 - A PhD in Potatoes ("Excelsis Dei") 15.12.2023 1:04:42
Helen and Liz discuss "Excelsis Dei," teaching philosophies, the best taco filling, and some brand-new X-Files Twitter gossip. Plus, look, Liz really can't pronounce "Dei" and she knows this. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-styl...
37 - Helen Will Save Us All ("Red Museum") 08.12.2023 52:12
Helen and Liz discuss the mind-blowing episode "Red Museum," the virtues of not eating meat, Helen's terrifying flight experience, and synonyms for "museum." Plus, why does Scully recognize that man? Why??? 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spoo...
36 - Keep It Goose ("Firewalker") 01.12.2023 34:07
After a week off, Helen and Liz discuss "Firewalker," aka Season 1's "Ice" but a few hundred degrees warmer. Baseball-bat-sized asparagus kill people, Helen extolls the virtues of spring-loaded hair clips, Liz forgets the existence of hallucinogenic mushrooms, and, once again, both sisters decry Mulder's terrible judgement. Plus, geese! This podcast mentions geese. Got it, algorithm? 💚👽💚🛸💚 Fi...
35 - The Lightning Round ("One Breath") 17.11.2023 42:08
Helen and Liz discuss the episode "One Breath." Scully is back, Liz hates a dental hygienist, and Helen masters the lightning round. Plus, was that guy Liz briefly dated in a coma in her living room? 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-fi...
34 - The Worst Capri-Sun ("Three") 10.11.2023 1:14:09
Liz and Helen discuss the X-Files episode "3," overly dramatic goths, the film Basic Instinct , and Liz's blood phobia. Plus, leprechauns. Twice. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com B...
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