Helen Werner and Liz Holden

We Want To Believe: An X-Files Podcast

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Sisters, scientists, and lifelong X-Files fans. Join bioarcheologist Helen and physicist Liz each week as they discuss the science and culture behind each X-Files episode. Come for the science and 90s nostalgia, stay for the detours into absurdity.

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Helen Werner and Liz Holden

Episodes

79 - The Plural of Lemur ("Talitha Cumi") 09.05.2025 1:13:29

Liz and Helen are live! We livestreamed our discussion of "Talitha Cumi," so you'll get to hear listener questions and opinions throughout the episode, along with our discussion of secret neighborhood tunnels, animal mascots, and glueing bones together. Plus, 1.5 people shame Helen about movies. Also, oops, let the record show that it was Liz's friend Cori who came up with the idea of an Empire Re...

78 - Oh crap, it's happening again. ("Wetwired") 02.05.2025 55:15

Helen and Liz discuss "Wetwired," along with a new Loch Ness Monster theory, horse milk, our declining ability to speak, and the link between deceased senator Ted Stevens and Whitby, England. Plus, JOIN US LIVE, Tuesday, May 6, at 2pm Central, for the recording of our Season 3 finale. We'll be discussing "Talitha Cumi," answering questions, and surely going off on plenty of tangents. Grab the link...

77 - The Phlebotobuddy ("Quagmire") 18.04.2025 55:50

Liz and Helen discuss "Quagmire," along with abnormally nice dentists, too many alligators, the green cylinder, and 50 pounds of rice. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com Buy Liz's yo...

76 - Your Favorite Bodily System ("Avatar") 11.04.2025 49:37

Helen and Liz discuss "Avatar," along with other media recommendations, inspirational tattoos, and an update on Helen's nails. Plus, where's Smoking Man? 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gma...

75 - Smashing Watermelons ("Jose Chung's From Outer Space") 21.03.2025 51:33

Helen and Liz discuss "Jose Chung's From Outer Space," along with hitting each other with sticks, eating avocados recreationally, and the Feynman-Frey connection. Plus, Helen learns the truth about Communion. My meter just jumped two points! 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your qu...

74 - Helen doesn't feel special ("Hell Money") 14.03.2025 50:34

Liz and Helen discuss "Hell Money," along with blood types, the link between James Hong and Buster Bluth, and the point at which being burned alive in a crematorium becomes a public health crisis. Plus, Liz screws up a name in a way she'll never live down. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email...

73 - The Gravel Potluck ("Teso dos Bichos") 07.03.2025 43:50

Helen and Liz discuss "Teso dos Bichos," along with SimCity, Helen's ideal rave, and being primed for capybaras. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com Buy Liz's young adult novel, Might...

72 - Liz's Shameless Cash Grab 28.02.2025 10:57

Liz talks about her debut novel, Mighty Millie Novak. Have you bought it yet? Go on, buy it. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com Buy Liz's young adult novel, Mighty Millie Novak , any...

71 - The Hypnotizer ("Pusher") 21.02.2025 51:39

Liz and Helen discuss "Pusher," along with unicorn haircuts, dog slumber parties, samurai, and a fascinating study involving psychics and schizophrenics. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gma...

70 - Big Cesar Chavez Vibes ("Apocrypha") 14.02.2025 43:34

Helen and Liz discuss "Apocrypha," along with boy archeologists, glowing people to death, filling Mulder and Scully with concrete, and the build-up to talking about MRI machines. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories her...

69 - Salvage Brokers Broker Salvage ("Piper Maru") 08.02.2025 37:38

Liz and Helen discuss "Piper Maru," along with goblin mode, flashlight tag, and the return of the series' most punchable character. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com Buy Liz's young...

68 - Very Poorly Lit ("Grotesque") 31.01.2025 38:38

Helen and Liz discuss "Grotesque," along with the hole in Helen's floor, the reason for gargoyles, and the art class medium their mother would never allow. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@g...

67 - Things That Die in the Woods ("Syzygy") 24.01.2025 56:43

Liz and Helen discuss "Syzygy," along with dog skeletons, Helen's lingering Elijah Wood issue, and a terrible combination of the Monty Hall and the trolley problems. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobe...

REVIEW DAY: Helen Werner, Slightly Psychic ("Roland") 10.01.2025 37:11

Review Day! We're still taking a break for the holidays, so today you can listen to our old episode about X-Files season 1 episode 23, "Roland." Plus you can enjoy some brand-new audio of Liz mangling the very few sentences she has to read during the intro. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email...

REVIEW DAY: Is Robert Smith the Jersey Devil? ("The Jersey Devil") 03.01.2025 40:48

Liz is sick, and it's the week of New Year's Day, so we're taking a break from recording this week, and instead sharing one of our first episodes. In this one, Helen talks Liz through X-Files season 1 episode 5, "The Jersey Devil," and Liz is nearly destroyed by laughter when shown a key drawing from the episode. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelieve...

66 - A Violent Suitcase-throwing Machine ("War of the Coprophages") 28.12.2024 59:28

Helen and Liz talk with author Mallory Marlowe about her 2024 paranormal romance, Love and Other Conspiracies, along with "War of the Coprophages," a demonic horse statue, unsettling candy bar analogies, and jazz hands. And, yes, Liz continues talking about "Muskrat Love." Learn more about Mallory and buy her books here: https://www.mallorymarlowe.com/ 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz...

65 - God Doesn't Square Numbers ("Revelations") 21.12.2024 59:35

Liz and Helen discuss "Revelations," along with Helen's childhood fear of stigmata, Liz's obsession with Jason Mantzoukas, the Crunchers, science history, and vending-machine egg salad sandwiches. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files...

64 - Stupid Little Ears ("731") 13.12.2024 55:06

Helen and Liz discuss "731," along with the Rolling Stones, turquoise bacteria, Liz's shin, and Mr. Hansen and his disease research facility. Plus, of course, sea lions. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewant...

63 - Venmo Helen ("Nisei") 06.12.2024 1:01:34

Liz and Helen discuss "Nisei," along with objet d'arts, the chicken dance, and our upcoming episode with guest star Mallory Marlowe (author of Love and Other Conspiracies)! Plus, more about Muskrat Love. Helen's Venmo is @Helen-Werner88. (The 88 is solely because she was born in 1988.) 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagr...

62 - Big, Cold Bucket of Urine ("Oubliette") 29.11.2024 52:29

Helen and Liz discuss "Oubliette," along with physics riddles, terrible presentations, the disappearing kayaker, and, obviously, the aforementioned bucket. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@g...

REVIEW DAY: The Worst Capri-Sun ("Three") 22.11.2024 1:15:03

It’s a review day, class! We're taking a one-week break, so enjoy this "review day," and hear our discussion of the Season Two episode "Three." (This is the terrible, terrible vampire episode. It's basically Liz ranting for an hour straight.) 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your q...

61 - "Is it not possible...?" ("The Walk") 15.11.2024 1:05:10

Liz and Helen discuss "The Walk," along with our favorite horror movies, haunted televisions Part Two, and Liz's attempt to astrally project. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com Buy L...

60 - Muskrat Love ("2Shy") 08.11.2024 1:12:22

Helen and Liz discuss "2Shy." Plus, bad dates, bad screen names, and bad songs. And: snuggles? 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-files-style stories here: wewanttobelievepod@gmail.com Buy Liz's young adult novel, Mighty Millie Novak , a...

59 - The Autopser ("The List") 01.11.2024 45:06

Liz and Helen discuss "The List," along with their proposed "Jesus: The Revenge" action movie, the X-Files fake maggot budget, and the cutest dog in the world. Plus, find out if Liz can count to five! 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, thoughts, or your own spooky X-f...

58 - Uranus Unlimited ("Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose") 25.10.2024 47:00

Helen and Liz discuss X-Files season 3 episode 4, "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose." They also talk about ways psychics have lied to them, people who are ghost-adjacent, and what your Zodiac sign says about your investment strategy. 💚👽💚🛸💚 Find more info about Helen and Liz at our podcast website: wewanttobelievepod.com Follow us on Instagram: @WeWanttoBelievePod Email us with your questions, th...