Andrea Peer and Susan Leonardson
We Are Human
The future is tech. The purpose is human. This podcast lives in the space between. Andrea Peer and Susan Leonardson are self-proclaimed tech geeks who spend their days building digital systems and geeking out over the latest AI tools. But somewhere along the way, they started asking bigger questions: In a world racing toward automation, what makes us human in the first place? And how do we hold onto that as everything around us evolves? This isn't an anti-tech show. Susan and Andrea love tech (they might love it too much). But they've noticed that the more we optimize, automate, and outsource,...
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May 28, 2026
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AI Didn't Replace This Expert, It Multiplied Him with Preston Anderson 28.05.2026 1:10:23
Preston Anderson knows things about the tax code that most CPAs will never tell you. And now, thanks to AI, that knowledge is no longer locked inside one person's brain. In this episode, Andrea and Susan sit down with Preston, a tax strategist who built a 12-person firm around doing what most accountants refuse to do: using the tax code the way it was actually written. Preston is blunt about the i...
How Creatives Survive When AI Can Do Your Job with Alyssa Aviles 21.05.2026 1:11:20
Every creative is asking the same question right now, "if AI can do what I do, what am I actually worth?" Design mentor and funnel strategist Alyssa Aviles has been sitting with that question, honestly and out loud. In this conversation with Andrea and Susan, she shares what it really feels like to navigate a 16-year creative career as AI reshapes the industry, and what she's discovered about the...
Can AI Replace a Coach? Chris Cameron on Where the Line Really Is 30.04.2026 58:05
There's a question keeping every course creator and coach up at night right now: if AI can answer almost any question instantly, what are people actually paying you for? Chris Cameron, VP of Coaching Programs at Prime Mover and ClickFunnels and the man behind Russell Brunson's 2CCX and Prime Mover coaching programs, joins Andrea and Susan to answer it. With 26 years alongside Russell and a front-r...
The 15 Brain Codes That Biohack You Back to Life with Lori Olds 22.04.2026 1:02:37
Your brain was designed to heal your body. So why isn't it working? Lori Olds, naturopathic practitioner and founder of Ascend Brain Center, joins Andrea and Susan to break down the science of why so many of us are stuck in chronic fight-or-flight, and what it actually takes to get out. From microcurrent neurofeedback to haptic frequency patches that send corrective signals through your skin direc...
The Senses AI Will Never Own with Mark Stern 14.04.2026 52:18
AI can write your emails, build your funnel, and personalize every touchpoint in your client journey. But what it can't do is create what happens off screen, the moment your client tears open a box, runs their fingers across the pages, catches the scent of something unexpected, and feels the weight of a medal they actually earned. That experience is entirely, irreducibly human. And according to Ma...
She Outperformed Facebook's Algorithm With One Simple Strategy with Jenna Larson 01.04.2026 52:25
What if the secret to selling more was simply being more human? Jenna Larson has built two software companies, GroupTrack CRM ™ and ANA AI ™ , on exactly that bet, and she's watching it pay off. Jenna joins Andrea and Susan to pull back the curtain on the philosophy, the frameworks, and the real story behind organic sales done right. From managing 300 students a week in corporate to coxing Olympic...
Are You Actually Connecting, or Just Networking? With Turner Leslie 24.03.2026 54:23
Some people are naturally wired to connect. Turner Leslie is one of them, and he's turned that gift into a career. From managing Dream 100 relationships at ClickFunnels to building out personalized gift campaigns at Mailbox Power, Turner has spent years proving one thing, people do business with people they genuinely like. And there isn't a shortcut. In this episode, Andrea and Susan sit down with...
You're Not as Present as You Think You Are with Sarah Grace Allred 10.03.2026 39:32
When was the last time you walked away from a conversation and thought, "That person was completely, fully there with me"? Not checking their phone. Not waiting for their turn to talk. Not trying to impress you. Just, there. That's what it feels like to spend time with Sarah Grace Allred. And in this episode, Andrea and Susan go deep trying to figure out exactly how she does it, and whether the re...
Mike Walker on The Hidden Reason Your Best Clients Cancel 24.02.2026 57:23
Your best client just had their best month ever, then canceled the next day. Sound familiar? The reason might not be what you think. Andrea sits down with Mike Walker, CEO of ClientBloom.ai and bestselling author of The Exceptional Experience and Systems Thinking Visionary , to unpack why traditional engagement metrics lie to us, why caring too much about the wrong clients drains your business, an...
Laurence Santer on Protecting What AI Can't Touch 19.02.2026 1:08:44
What happens when you use AI every single day, but your audience can literally feel when something isn't authentic? Laurence Santer lives at that exact intersection, and what he's learned will change how you think about AI in your business. Laurence is the CMO and operations officer for Hay House author Heidi Sawyer, whose business serves over 80,000 intuitive sensitives, people with a heightened...
Why Your "Problem Customers" Aren't the Problem 27.01.2026 38:27
What if the customers you secretly wish would just "figure it out" are actually your biggest growth opportunity? Most course creators and online business owners design products for people like themselves, the self-starting 2% who don't need hand-holding. But that leaves 16% of potential customers underserved, not because they're the wrong fit, but because the experience wasn't designed for them. I...
What Happens When You Design for Humans First? 20.01.2026 47:12
What if the reason your students aren't completing your course has nothing to do with your content, and everything to do with how you're designing the experience? In this episode, Andrea shares the deeply personal origin story behind Journey Crafting, the framework she developed after leaving her Silicon Valley career and rediscovering her own relationship with emotions. Susan and Andrea break dow...
Should You Build an AI Agent for Your Online 'Expert' Business? 13.01.2026 43:31
We've been trusting machines to help us for 3,000 years, from bronze guardians in ancient Greece to those infuriating phone trees we all know too well. But AI agents are different. We actually like them. And that might be a problem. In this episode, Andrea and Susan unpack the AI agent craze sweeping the online business world. With clients asking about AI agents constantly and mentors predicting t...
8 Human-Centered Principles for Building Better Digital Experiences 06.01.2026 38:54
What if the reason your digital course, community, or AI-powered product isn’t “landing” has nothing to do with your content—and everything to do with the human experience you designed (or didn’t)? In this solo episode of We Are Human , Andrea Peer and Susan Leonardson break down 8 human-centered principles they use to build technology-enabled experiences that still feel personal, supportive, and...
How AI Is Actually Helping Us Connect More (Not Less) 30.12.2025 28:21
This one gets personal. In Episode 3, Susan and Andrea pull back the curtain on who they actually are—their backgrounds, their values, and the unexpected ways they're using AI in their everyday lives. Hint: it's not about productivity. It's not about automation. And it's definitely not what you'd expect. They also get into what they do at GeekOut, the business they run together and why the problem...
AI Is Changing Everything. Here's What We're All Missing. 23.12.2025 11:31
We know all the tricks. We study human behavior. We build systems designed to connect with people. And yet we are still learning and figuring it out. In this episode, Susan and Andrea get honest about the gap between knowing how to reach people and actually reaching them. They talk about why industries are resisting tech they can't avoid, why schools banning AI might be doing students a disservice...
Are We Losing Our Humanity to AI? 17.12.2025 8:13
Welcome to the very first episode of We Are Human! In this intro episode, Susan and Andrea break down the big question driving the show: In a world where we can automate almost everything, what happens to the stuff that makes us... us? Susan confesses that her creative brain muscle has gotten a little weak from outsourcing too much to AI (relatable), and Andrea drops the bold take that leaning int...
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