Kevin and Jamie
Vulnerability Junkies
It’s no secret that guys suck at talking about their feelings and everyone wishes they were better at it, us included. On Vulnerability Junkies, two friends (Kevin Lau & Jamie Wong) struggle through the scary parts of personal and career growth as 20/30 somethings, their cultural identities as Asian Canadians, and becoming less emotionally constipated. After taking an emotional intelligence course while between silicon valley tech jobs, we started this podcast to practice, fail, and learn in public. So here it is in all its messy glory. Sit back, relax, and enjoy your hit of vulnerability.
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Feb 26, 2026
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Ep 30: Burnt-out girl boss 🤝 man reclaiming healthy masculinity (w/ Stephanie Tran and Kevin Do!) 26.02.2026 2:18:09
Stephanie Tran is co-founder of Relating Between the Lines (RBTL), the life changing communication course that we both took. Kevin Do was a facilitator for both of us in RBTL. Somewhere along the way they started dating and got married. In this episode we talk about When KDo Met Steph, girl-bossing so hard your body starts to deteriorate, healthy masculinity, being novices at having fun, and how t...
Ep 29: Birthday party in a Google Doc 19.02.2026 51:48
For his 33rd birthday, Jamie invited a group of his friends to a party in a Google Doc. It was lit. In this episode we discuss what it means to celebrate a birthday and using a birthday party to learn and connect more intentionally with your loved ones. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Intro music by: ...
Ep 28: Let your geek flag fly (w/ Philip La) 12.02.2026 1:11:16
Among our friends, none has embraced their fandoms as whole-heartedly as Phil. He is unabashed in his deep love for anime and power rangers, even throughout a process of going on 100 first dates (which led to him meeting his now-wife!). Phil inspires us to love what we love, out in the open. So in this episode, we geek out about our anime origin stories and learn about how Phil’s passions have def...
Ep 27: Crafting experiences to turn strangers into friends (w/ Adele Bloch!) 05.02.2026 1:46:34
Adele loves organizing events that are designed to encourage strangers to be vulnerable and connect more deeply with each other. Naturally, we are big fans of Adele’s work! In this episode, we unpack the intentionality behind her experience design, the logistics required to run events for dozens of strangers, and things she’s learned from failures over the years. ----------------------------------...
Ep 26: Career, privilege, and guilt as an Asian American (w/ Patrick Chang!) 29.01.2026 1:15:03
Patrick is a talented mechanical product designer that we met through the Bay Area dance community. In this episode, we talk about Patrick’s struggle with being Asian American, feeling guilty about privilege, experience working with Elon Musk, regrets, and more. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Guest: Patrick Ch...
Ep 25: Being a mom doesn’t need to be all-consuming (w/ Ruth Grace Wong!) 22.01.2026 1:10:58
Ruth is one of our most prolific side project friends, and also one of our most prolific parent friends. Sometimes those two identities intersect, like when Ruth builds kids play areas in community spaces to make San Francisco a more kid friendly city. In this episode, we talk about joyful parenting, and how a brief stint in hospice care shifted her towards an anti-perfectionist mindset. ---------...
Ep 24: Learning to have fun (going to Asia for the first time) 15.01.2026 1:05:14
Kevin has always struggled to give himself permission to have fun and spend time just enjoying life, especially when it came to letting himself travel. In this episode, we talk about the next step in Kevin’s self love journey and his learnings from first time solo traveling to Asia, just for funsies. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Ja...
Ep 23: Gender transition is a celebration of authenticity (w/ Rox Guo) 12.12.2024 1:08:51
Is anyone in your life transgender? On today’s episode, Kevin, Jamie, and special guest Rox Guo talks about his transitioning journey, how people can miss that a gender transition is a celebratory moment, and some ideas for supporting a loved one through transitioning. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Guest: Rox Guo Int...
Ep 22: Being Biracial (w/ Lyn!) 06.12.2024 1:29:26
Have you ever struggled with fitting in because of your race? ]Do you find yourself (like us) somewhere in the infinite spectrum of racial identity? On today’s episode, Kevin, Jamie, and special guest Lyn talk about not knowing what option to check on government forms and their experiences growing up on different spots on the racial identity spectrum. ----------------------------------------------...
Ep 21: Navigating Non-Traditional Career Paths (w/ JN Fang!) 15.11.2024 1:17:42
How do you guide career decisions if you decide to step off the beaten path? What’s your north star? In today’s episode, Kevin and Jamie chat with special guest JN Fang about her journey weaving through healthcare to public service to political campaigns to fighting climate change with technology. Through it all, we talk about how we develop faith that we’re heading the right way. ----------------...
Ep 20: First dates 07.10.2024 45:08
When’s the last time you went on a first date? Does the idea of going on a first date excite you or make you feel squeamish? On today’s episode, Kevin and Jamie talk about their experiences going on first dates, what makes a good first date, and how online dating can be really (really) hard. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Int...
Ep 19: Vulnerability is not weakness 03.10.2024 42:15
Do you open up easily to others? Or is your default to be more closed off? Today we discuss how Kevin struggles with being vulnerable, despite really enjoying connecting with people. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Intro music by: Harry Dai ------------------------------------------------ CONNECT WITH US Subscribe...
Ep 18: Following curiosity vs duty 19.09.2024 48:55
Do you live your life by pursuing what interests you? Or your sense of responsibility? In today’s episode, Jamie digs into his experiences in the Internal Family Systems therapy modality and working through being led by his curiosity vs his sense of duty. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Intro music by: Harry Dai -------...
Ep 17: I hate myself 12.09.2024 1:00:01
What does your relationship with yourself look like? In today’s episode, Kevin reflects on discovering the physicality of emotion in therapy, and on moving away from self-hatred towards self-love. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Intro music by: Harry Dai ------------------------------------------------ CONNECT WITH US Subscri...
Ep 16: Our Experiences With Therapy (w/ Carmel DeAmicis!) 10.07.2023 1:20:06
You tryna see a therapist? How do you know how to find someone that’s a good fit? In today’s episode, Kevin, Jamie, and special guest Carmel DeAmicis unpack their respective therapy journeys and give some tips for how to find the right therapist for you. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Guest: Carmel DeAmicis Intro music by: Harry Dai...
Ep 15: Navigating Uncertainty (w/ Norman Tran!) 21.06.2023 1:09:50
Do you know what you want in life? How do you balance having sources of purpose, practicality, and passion? In today’s episode, Kevin and Jamie ask special guest Norman Tran about his journey starting a company that teaches relational intelligence, and how he navigates all of the feelings associated with forging your own path. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau,...
Ep 14: Tell me my story 26.05.2023 38:20
How well do you know your close friends’ life stories? Listen to Kevin & Jamie revisit the Conversation Menus (School of Life plz sponsor us) and explore their perception of the other person’s main life arcs. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau , Jamie Wong Intro music by: Harry Dai ------------------------------------------------ CONNECT WITH US Subsc...
Ep 13: We took Stanford’s Touchy Feely course 15.05.2023 1:04:44
Touchy Feely has been touted for decades as one of the most influential and life changing courses offered by Stanford University’s Graduate School of Business. In today’s episode, Kevin and Jamie talk about finding their respective growth zones and being vulnerable with strangers while taking the Coachella of communication courses. (Just for a weekend though, we didn’t secretly apply to business s...
Ep 12: Slow and kind wins the race 27.04.2023 48:04
Are you more motivated by warm encouragement, or by having a drill sergeant yell at you? In today’s episode, Kevin gives an update on his journey processing, integrating, and embodying more compassionate self-talk and giving himself the space to have more fun in life. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Intro music by: Harry Dai ------...
Ep 11: I'd like to add you to my professional network 05.04.2023 51:19
Do you get excited about networking? Or do you convulse at the thought? In today’s episode, Kevin and Jamie discuss how their relationship with networking has evolved over time and the joys of connecting people to each other. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Guest: Owen Wang Intro music by: Harry Dai ------------------------------------...
Ep 10: Path of Least Regret (w/ Owen Wang!) 23.03.2023 59:18
Have you ever achieved emotional homeostasis? How do you define confidence? In today’s episode, Kevin, Jamie, and (special guest!) Owen talk about following the path of least regret, fear, prototyping our way through life and everything in between. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau, Jamie Wong Guest: Owen Wang Intro music by: Harry Dai ---------------------...
Ep 9: Support squad, wya? 13.03.2023 59:03
When life inevitably punches you in the face, do you have people to turn to for help? In today’s episode, Kevin and Jamie talk about how they discovered that having support systems in life is a thing, how to cultivate them, and how they’ve come to rely on them in tumultuous times. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau , Jamie Wong Intro music by: Harry Dai -------------...
Ep 8: How you feelin’, Little Kevin? 21.02.2023 45:11
What does your relationship with yourself sound like? Come hear about Kevin’s new relationship with his inner child self, the fears that got in the way of them connecting in the first place, and how he’s learning to be the kind, supportive, emotionally attuned best friend for life, that he’s always wanted and needed. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau , Jamie Wong In...
Ep 7: Whatcha eatin’, Jamie? 08.02.2023 1:02:08
Does food make you emotional? Listen to Jamie recount his 15 year journey navigating an avoidant relationship with food, with Kevin going full support mode. Along the way, they touch on the critical role of psychological safety, the constricting power of shame, and a remarkable experience with a cherry tomato. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau , Jamie Wong Intro mus...
Ep 6: Reflections and Resolutions 25.01.2023 1:04:12
Happy New Year! How was your 2022? Anything you’re looking forward to in 2023? Listen to Kevin & Jamie reflect on how the year went, keep themselves accountable to the goals they originally set for 2022, and set their intentions and resolutions going into 2023. ------------------------------------------------ Hosts: Kevin Lau , Jamie Wong Intro music by: Harry Dai -----------------------------...
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