Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok
Venture Declassified
Venture Declassified is here to provide you with practical insights, expert advice, and a deeper understanding of the investment landscape for first-time investors. Hosted by a team of seasoned investors and financial experts, this podcast is tailor-made for newcomers who are eager to learn about the fundamentals of investing and want to make informed decisions. We understand that starting your investment journey can be intimidating, but our goal is to demystify the process and equip you with the knowledge and tools needed to succeed.
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Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok
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Jun 29, 2026
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Episodes
From Prototype to Production: The Hard Tech Investor's Guide 29.06.2026 1:05:01
In this special crossover episode of Venture Declassified, Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok join Grant Chapman on the Hard Tech Podcast to tackle a question many angel investors wrestle with: how should you evaluate hard tech opportunities differently from software companies? The discussion explores how investors should think about technical expertise, scalability, and the transition fro...
When Startup Valuations Stop Making Sense 25.05.2026 25:42
Episode Summary In this episode of Venture Declassified, Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok tackle one of the murkier concepts in startup investing: mark-to-market valuations. What starts as a conversation about portfolio reporting quickly turns into a candid debate about spreadsheets, “black magic,” and the uncomfortable reality that startup valuations are often far more subjective than in...
Quick Tip: Drag-Along Rights 20.04.2026 2:31
In this quick Venture Declassified “nugget,” Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok break down the concept of drag-along rights—one of those legal terms that can have major real-world consequences for investors and founders. Using a real example involving a missed acquisition opportunity, the hosts explain why investors sometimes insist on having the power to force a sale. It’s a fast look at h...
The Reality Behind Startup Exits 13.04.2026 31:56
In this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok unpack one of the most misunderstood moments in startup investing: the exit. While headlines often highlight big acquisition numbers, the hosts explain why the reality behind those numbers is rarely as straightforward—or as lucrative—as it first appears. The conversation breaks down the different ways exits...
What Happens When It’s Time to Dissolve a Startup 30.03.2026 19:02
In this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok dive into a reality every startup investor eventually faces: what happens when a company simply doesn’t work out. The conversation kicks off with Ben stepping off a real-time investor call dealing with a struggling portfolio company, which leads the group into an honest discussion about dissolutions, asset sal...
Startup Funding: When the Founder Becomes the Bank 16.03.2026 25:43
Episode Summary In this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok unpack a topic that occasionally pops up in startup financials but rarely gets discussed openly: founder loans. What happens when a founder puts their own money into the company—and more importantly, what happens when it’s time to raise outside capital? The group walks through common scenari...
Investing in Hardware: Honest Timelines, Burn Rates, and Brutal Truths 16.02.2026 51:17
In this episode of Venture Declassified , Mike Kelly and Jacob Schpok are joined by Grant Chapman, co-founder of Glassboard, along with GrowthX Partner Jeanette Renshaw for a candid conversation about what it really takes to build—and invest in—hard tech. Drawing from deep, hands-on experience across hardware, medtech, and physical product development, the group unpacks why hardware timelines rout...
Narrow First, Scale Later: A Smarter Go-To-Market Playbook 19.01.2026 51:37
Episode Summary Recorded live from the Rally Innovation Conference, this episode of Venture Declassified features a wide-ranging and candid conversation with Jeanette Renshaw, Partner at GrowthX, on what actually drives early-stage success: understanding your ideal customer and learning how to sell—before you run out of runway. Jeanette breaks down why startup sales remains one of the least-suppor...
From “Hot Mess” to Fundable: Cleaning Up Cap Tables 06.10.2025 1:03:19
In this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok tackle one of the most overlooked—but most consequential—parts of startup investing: the cap table. From abandoned founder equity to a stack of mismatched SAFEs, the trio share war stories of cap tables that turn into what they like to call a “hot mess”—and why those messes can scare off the very investors a c...
The Good, the Bad, and the Risky: Understanding Bridge Rounds 22.09.2025 21:26
In this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok take a hard look at bridge rounds—what they are, when they make sense, and when they’re really just a disguised recap. The conversation starts with definitions: a bridge round is typically a smaller, short-term raise—often structured as a convertible note or SAFE—intended to extend a company’s runway until...
Navigating Follow-On Rounds Through Special Purpose Vehicles 08.09.2025 28:27
In this episode of Venture Declassified, hosts Jacob Schpok, Ben Pidgeon, and Mike Kelly unpack the inner workings of Special Purpose Vehicles (SPVs) and their role in managing follow-on investments. Drawing from recent real-world scenarios, the trio explores how SPVs are structured, how pro rata rights work in practice, and what happens when not all investors are on board for additional funding r...
Exercising Angel Investor Wisdom Without Overstepping Boundaries 23.06.2025 38:55
Episode Summary In this episode of “Venture Declassified,” hosts Mike Kelly, Jacob Schpok, and Ben Pidgeon are joined by super angel investor Ken Miller for a candid conversation on the art and reality of exercising influence as an angel investor. The discussion kicks off with the dilemma many angels encounter: what to do when you see a portfolio company making decisions you disagree with—espe...
Navigating Tariffs and Survival Strategies for Uncertainty in 2025 09.06.2025 21:18
In this insightful episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Jacob Spock, Mike Kelly, and Ben Pidgeon are joined by guest Ken Miller to tackle the timely and complex topic of tariffs, and their ripple effects on startups, investors, and the broader business ecosystem. The crew dives straight into the current landscape, highlighting the divide between companies with international exposure—...
What Makes a Deal Stand Out: Insights from the Venture Screening Process 28.04.2025 37:07
In this lively episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Spock dive deep into their screening processes, offering a backstage pass to how venture capital decisions are made. The episode is a fascinating exploration of how these experts engage with potential portfolio companies, balance efficiency with thoroughness, and deal with the challenges of high-vo...
The Role of Secondary Markets in Today's Venture Capital Strategy 14.04.2025 32:48
In this episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Ben Pidgeon, Mike Kelly, and Jacob Schpok delve into the intriguing world of secondary markets. They explore how these markets offer a mechanism for current shareholders in privately-held companies to sell their shares to private entities. With a candid approach, the hosts detail how these transactions do not inject new cash into companies...
Indiana’s Tech Transformation: Adapting to a Changing Landscape 10.03.2025 1:00:19
In this insightful episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Ben Pidgeon, Mike Kelly, and Jacob Schpok join guest Toph Day to explore the rapid shifts within Indiana's burgeoning tech ecosystem. The discussion centers on the theme of "Innovate or Evaporate," emphasizing the need for businesses to adapt to swiftly evolving technological landscapes, particularly with AI advan...
Choosing the Right Investment Structure 20.02.2025 52:19
Episode Summary In this engaging episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok unpack the various types of investment vehicles and the appropriate contexts for their use. The episode is loaded with expert insights into the nuances of safes, convertible notes, and equity financing, making it a must-listen for both budding entrepreneurs and seasoned inv...
Ensuring Your Return: Waterfall Analysis and Exit Strategies for Startup Investors 10.02.2025 49:06
Episode Summary In this enlightening episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Ben Pidgeon, Mike Kelly, and Jacob Spock tackle the subject of waterfall analysis, offering listeners a clear understanding of its role in the investment process. The topic comes to life through a real-life scenario where their portfolio company faced an acquisition offer, leading to choices between cash, equit...
Exploring MVP Creation with AI: Tools, Costs, and Time 29.01.2025 39:31
In this episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Jacob Schpock and Mike Kelly dive into an engaging discussion centered on using AI tools to create a Minimum Viable Product (MVP). They explore the necessary skills, costs, and time commitment involved in product development with a focus on leveraging low code/no code platforms and developer productivity tools. Mike emphasizes how tools li...
Early-Stage CEO Salaries: Best Practices and Common Pitfalls 09.12.2024 23:29
In this insightful episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Spock tackle the often contentious topic of CEO compensation in startups. With an engaging and dynamic discussion, the trio delves into the intricate balance of aligning executive pay with company milestones and investor expectations. Key Topics • Budget implications of CEO compensation wi...
Evaluating Market Conditions: Impacts of Political Climate and Economic Events 25.11.2024 28:35
In this episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Schpok dive into various investment strategies and market dynamics affecting angel investors. Key Topics • Investment Strategies: Sticking to goals, but being flexible • Benefits of Knowing CEOs or Board Members: Looking beyond just using deal platforms like AngelList. • Emotional Engageme...
Effective Cash Flow Management and Financial Literacy Tips for Startups 11.11.2024 1:01:22
Episode Summary In this episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly and Jacob Spock, along with special guest Nick Wangler, co-founer and COO of Orthodontic Details, delve into the intricate dynamics of venture capital and startup fundraising. The episode offers invaluable advice for founders navigating the challenging VC landscape, focusing on practical strategies to enhance the...
How to Make Smart Venture Capital Decisions 21.10.2024 37:12
In this thought-provoking episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Mike Kelly and Jacob Schpok, alongside guest Ben Pidgeon, delve into the complexities of investment decision-making in the venture capital world. This episode shines a light on the critical factors that influence whether to continue funding a company or finally "wave the white flag. The discussion starts with the imp...
The Art of the Pitch: Live Startup Pitches and Fundraising Realities from Rally Innovation 14.10.2024 44:29
In this special episode of "Venture Declassified," recorded live at the Rally Innovation Conference, hosts Mike Kelly, Ben Pidgeon, and Jacob Spock engage with a series of live pitches and conversations with entrepreneurs and founders. They unpack the complex dynamics of the fundraising landscape for startups, exploring how the backgrounds of entrepreneurs—whether they are repeat founder...
The Midwest Advantage: Navigating Fundraising and Dilution at Series A for Startups 16.09.2024 35:20
In this enlightening episode of "Venture Declassified," hosts Jacob Schpok, Ben Pidgeon, and Mike Kelly take a deep dive into the intricacies of Series A valuations, fundraising strategies, and the unique challenges faced by Midwest startups. The episode sheds light on the complex dynamics that come into play when a company with $3 million in annual recurring revenue aims for a Series A...
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