Caleb Gray
Upside Down People
Every week on Upside Down People Podcast we’ll have authentic conversations with Jesus-loving people diving into some aspect of faith, life, history, culture, politics & more and, with curiosity, our hope is to discover the truth of a living a life marked by the love of Jesus. We would love to hear from you!! If you have a guest/topic suggestion or want to find out how you can support the show email us at www.upsidedownpeople.org/contact-us
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Caleb Gray
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Are Churches Making Disciples or Consumers? | Alastair Roberts & Rory Shiner 07.07.2026 1:55:16
Is the modern church accidentally creating consumers instead of disciples? Theologian Alastair Roberts and pastor Rory Shiner reveal why churches are struggling to form committed followers of Jesus, how consumer culture has quietly reshaped Christian community, and why a local sports club may understand discipleship better than many Sunday services. Alastair Roberts is an independent theologian wo...
If Jesus Rose From the Dead, Everything Changes | Mike Hood 26.05.2026 48:07
Why does the resurrection of Jesus still change everything in our chaotic world? UK pastor and evangelist Mike Hood reveals the powerful evidence, life-altering implications, and why this one historical event answers our deepest questions about meaning, love, justice, and hope. Mike Hood is a pastor, evangelist, and author with years of experience helping skeptics and seekers explore faith. In his...
Why Christians Stay Silent in Politics – And The Massive Cost To Society | Maryka Groenewald 06.05.2026 59:22
Australian Christian Party Leader Maryka Groenewald reveals what it's really like being the first Christian MP in WA Parliament, bridging faith and politics, and why the Church can no longer stay silent. Hon Maryka Groenewald MLC is the first Christian elected to any Parliament in Western Australia and the Leader of the Australian Christians. A bold voice for faith, life, family, and freedom,...
The Valley of the Shadow: What Suffering Teaches About Identity and Real Success | Paul Morrison 21.04.2026 1:32:09
What if you’re chasing the wrong thing? Musician, clinical chaplain & former AFL chaplain of the West Coast Eagles Paul Morrison reveals the raw, unfiltered pains of grief, suffering, authentic faith and finding life on the other side of loss. Paul Morrison, Director of Missions at Sonshine FM, just poured 18 months of deep despair, identity crisis and valley-season pain into his brand-new alb...
The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God | Justin Brierley 14.04.2026 1:07:34
Why has belief in God made a surprising comeback in the West? Veteran broadcaster and debate host Justin Brierley reveals the impacts behind the collapse of New Atheism, the power of real dialogue, and why Christianity still shapes our culture! Justin Brierley is a writer, speaker, broadcaster and veteran of debate, known for hosting Unbelievable and his brand-new show Uncommon Ground. He explains...
What a Brush With Death Taught Me About Desperate Prayer and Real Faith | Ken Chinn 31.03.2026 1:08:28
Doctors gave him hours to live and rolled him to the end of the hall - but then Ken Chinn had a supernatural ENCOUNTER WITH GOD that saved his life! Ken Chinn is a financial consultant, author of the book An Encounter with the Healer , musician, and podcast host who survived a brutal near-death COVID battle when four doctors dismissed him to die. He reveals:◼️The desperate prayer that God answers...
The Oldest Christian Hymn: What 1800 Years Of Persecution Teaches Us About Joy, Stability & Not Being Grumpy | John Dickson 24.03.2026 56:58
Historian and public advocate for Christian faith John Dickson uncovers the OLDEST Christian hymn with musical notation—rediscovered after 1800 years—and brings it back to life through a stunning modern collaboration with Chris Tomlin & Ben Fielding! John Dickson is an academic historian, author, theologian, and founder of Undeceptions, with decades dedicated to making ancient Christianity acc...
From Financial Anxiety To Kingdom Generosity - Rethinking Discipleship Amidst Cultural Comfort & Wealth | Rosie Kendall 18.03.2026 1:00:03
"Why does money cause so much shame, isolation & anxiety for Christians in a 'lucky country' like Australia? Hope Economy CEO Rosie Kendall reveals the BIBLICAL truths & practical steps to break financial overwhelm, build real community & disciple your money for God's kingdom! Rosie Kendall leads Hope Economy (formerly Christians Against Poverty Australia), a ministry...
Why Persecuted Christians Sang Joyfully | John Dickson 15.03.2026 13:55
John Dickson is a leading historian, author, and expert on early Christianity. In this moment, John reveals why ancient creeds and hymns connect us to Christians across centuries—even in the face of persecution—and how they offer enduring stability for the soul. From joyful songs sung by martyrs in Roman Egypt, to the historical reliability of Jesus and the Bible that stands up to scrutiny unlike...
Typology, Symbolism & the Unified Story of Scripture: Lessons for a Fragmented World | Alastair Roberts 02.03.2026 1:02:56
Why does the Bible feel distant or flat in our modern lives? Theologian and biblical scholar Alastair Roberts reveals the how reading Scripture deeply transforms your faith, prayer, and community! Alastair Roberts is a teacher at The Theopolis Institute and Davenant Institute a host of the Mere Fidelity Podcast and has producing a comprehensive chapter-by-chapter Bible commentary while equipping p...
What Happens When We Actually Follow the Biblical Jesus? | Susy Flory & Scott Johanningsmeier 24.02.2026 1:02:23
Why does the Jesus we see in culture today feel so different from the one in the Bible? Susy Flory (New York Times bestselling writer, PhD) & Scott Johanningsmeier (bivocational Pastor) are New Testament scholars who co-authored the book 'Jesus Was Not What We Expected, But Better Than We Imagined' . We have a conversation around how Jesus turns everything upside down—nonviolent, frien...
A Neuropsychologist Weighs In On Exhaustion, Shame & Isolation | Jo Johnson 16.02.2026 1:13:26
Why does looking inside yourself leave you more anxious, ashamed and lost? Clinical neuropsychologist Joe Johnson reveals the gospel-centred HOPE to disentangling your thoughts and feelings, escaping the cycle of self-promotion or self-protection, and living freely for Jesus! Jo Johnson is a clinical neuropsychologist with over 30 years of experience working with brain injuries, burnout, trauma, c...
Why Grace Meets Us in Our Biggest Messes | Duncan Robinson 04.02.2026 1:06:52
Why do we fear failure so much in our faith journeys? Australian pastor, former breakfast radio host and author Duncan Robinson reveals how grace at the speed of Jesus transforms our messiest moments into powerful redemption stories! Duncan Robinson is the lead pastor of Northgate Church, former Sydney breakfast radio host, and author of the new book 'Full Phoenix Rising: Real Time Grace at th...
An Evangelist & Pastor Share Why Modern Evangelism Is Failing | Glen Scrivener and Rory Shiner 27.01.2026 1:35:28
Why does evangelism feel stuck in today's culture? Cultural thinkers and pastors Glen Scrivener and Rory Shiner reveal how the gospel truly breaks through in a post-Christian world obsessed with progress, identity, and anti-woke backlash! Rory Shiner, pastor of Providence Church, Perth, and Glen Scrivener of Speak Life bring decades of frontline evangelism, cultural apologetics, and gospel pro...
The Best Christmas Throwback | Mark & Nasia Tapping 21.12.2025 56:48
Christmas is both the most wonderful time of the year and arguably for many, the most isolating and anxiety inducing time of the year. But how can we, as Christians, both engage in and enjoy this season in a way that celebrates Jesus and loves others? With many looking forward to spending time feasting with family and celebrating it’s helpful to try reframe how we look at this season through a go...
Bondi Beach's Brutal Antisemitic Assault & How The Gospel Offers Hope | Chris Cipollone 15.12.2025 56:23
In the wake of the horrific anti-Semitic attacks at Sydney's Bondi Beach on the 14th December that claimed innocent lives and has left Australia in lament with the Jewish community, how should Christians respond when evil strikes close to home? Why does rage spread so quickly in moments of tragedy, and what does the gospel offer when fear, anger, and loss of innocence threaten to overwhelm us?...
Christmas, Cigarettes & The New Evangelism | Dr. Sam Chan 09.12.2025 1:03:11
Dr. Sam Chan is a medical doctor turned cultural analyst, author, and one of the sharpest evangelical minds in Australia today. In a world drowning in loneliness, performance anxiety, and the endless chase for validation, why do we still feel unseen, restless, and missing something—even at Christmas? How does the ancient story of a baby in Bethlehem speak directly into our deepest craving: the nee...
The Cultural Narratives That Secretly Run Your Life | Michael Keller 02.12.2025 1:09:02
What happens when the cultural stories we’ve been fed our whole lives meet the brutal reality of death and loss? How is suffering the ultimate "red pill" that reveals which story you’re really trusting In this conversation with Dr. Michael Keller we explore his coming-to-faith story, the cultural lies we all breathe in every day, the night his father, Timothy Keller, died clinging to the creeds an...
How Biblical Lament Reframes Mental Health & Suffering | Dr. John Swinton 25.11.2025 15:53
In a world of over-medication, social media highlights, and avoided pain, how does embracing biblical lament reframe mental health and affliction from isolation to communal healing? Why do we dismiss suffering when Scripture's Psalms invite us to shout, grieve, and find hope through honest disconnection with God Himself? John Swinton is a Scottish theologian, Professor at the University of Aberdee...
The Hidden Jesus & Why Polite Christianity Is Poison | Chad Bird 18.11.2025 1:02:31
Why do we need raw, untamed prayers instead of polite, polished ones — and what happens when the Psalms finally give us permission to scream “How long, O Lord?” from the depths of our heart? In this conversation with Chad Bird we explore why the Psalms are the most honest prayer book the church has ever had, how Jesus has been walking through the Old Testament, the danger of turning Scripture into...
The Truth About Men That Society Doesn’t Want You to Know | Nancy Pearcey 11.11.2025 52:37
Prof. Nancy Pearcey is a bestselling author, former agnostic, and America’s pre-eminent evangelical Protestant female intellectual, celebrated for books like Love Thy Body and The Toxic War on Masculinity . In an age where masculinity is labeled "toxic," fatherhood dismissed as optional, and Christian men scapegoated for societal collapse, what does the latest sociological data actually...
Hell, Free Will & the Logic of Deconstruction | Matthew Tingblad 04.11.2025 15:49
In an age of doubt, deconstruction, and shallow gospel presentations, how does a biblical understanding of hell, salvation, and eternity reframe our faith from mere escapism to an intimate relationship with a holy God? Why do we reduce heaven to perks and hell to punishment, missing the heartbeat of Scripture of knowing God Himself? Matthew Tingblad is a speaker with Sightline Ministry (formerly J...
How Faith & Lament Can Transform The Way We Handle Trauma | Dr. Steve Midgley 02.11.2025 7:28
In this profound conversation, Steve Midgley invites us to move beyond helplessness in trauma's wake by discovering refuge in Christ and embracing the transformative practice of lament. He encourages the church to cultivate corporate expressions of lament, drawing on the Psalms to find words for the pain and cultivate deeper communal bonds amid suffering. What does it look like to stand in awe...
Finding Faith in the Face of Suffering | Dale Meredith 28.10.2025 1:39:25
Dale Meredith, a pastor at Red Door Community Church in Perth Western Australia, brings her raw and honest reflections on navigating some of life’s deepest pain while clinging to the beauty of Jesus. Our cultural temptation is to shy away from grief and cling to control, so how do we process suffering without losing faith? Why do we struggle to sit in the discomfort of lament, and what does it mea...
The Psychiatrist-Turned-Pastor: Engaging Trauma With Sensitive Curiosity 21.10.2025 12:47
In this compelling conversation, Steve Midgley urges us to confront trauma with the compassionate wisdom of Scripture, guiding the church to listen deeply and avoid simplistic solutions. He calls for a sensitive engagement with suffering, rooted in biblical narratives like Joseph’s betrayal and the cross of Christ, to foster healing through presence and understanding. What does it mean to truly wa...
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