Angela Cope & Jaime Waterfield
Unlearning in Progress
A podcast for women rising - not just in title, but in self. Unlearning in Progress is a podcast for women who did everything “right” - earned the titles, checked the boxes, read the books, took the trainings, and did what they were told. But there’s now a feeling that they can’t shake and are now left wondering, “So why doesn’t this feel like success?” Hosted by two recovering perfectionists and corporate veterans, Jaime Waterfield and Angela Cope unpack the parts of leadership no one puts on LinkedIn: the doubts behind the confidence, the burnout behind the ambition, the growth that does...
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Angela Cope & Jaime Waterfield
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Jun 1, 2026
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Episodes
Season One in Review: The Lessons We Learned While Unlearning 01.06.2026 17:44
In our Season One finale, we look back on five months, nineteen episodes, and a whole lot of unlearning. From letting go of perfectionism to finding our rhythm as co‑hosts, this season stretched us, grounded us, and reminded us why these conversations matter. We talk about what surprised us, what challenged us, and what changed us, including the moments that felt like therapy, the guests who held...
Beneath the Burnout: Rebalancing Masculine and Feminine Leadership 25.05.2026 27:34
What happens when the very traits that helped you succeed start to work against you? In this episode of Unlearning in Progress, Julie Santiago, former Wall Street executive turned founder of We Are the Women, explores the tension between doing and being, and why so many high-achieving women feel exhausted, unfulfilled, and out of alignment, even when things look successful on the outside. Julie he...
Beyond Overthinking: Getting Off the Thought Train 18.05.2026 29:48
In this episode of Unlearning in Progress , Angela and Jaime sit down with transformational coach and guide Karen Brar for a conversation about the connection between the mind, the body, and the stories we carry through life. Together, they explore why so many of us live disconnected from ourselves, constantly operating from overthinking, achievement, survival mode, and the “thought train” of the...
When Your Body Knows: Unlearning the Logic-Only Path 11.05.2026 24:18
What if your body has been trying to tell you something… and you’ve just been too used to pushing through to hear it? In this episode of Unlearning in Progress , we’re joined by Dr. Carly Hunt, a sport and health psychologist, former Division I golfer, and author of Train Your Brain to Beat Chronic Pain , to explore what it means to listen when your body starts signaling that something isn’t right...
The Stories We Carry: Breaking the Silence on Mental Health 04.05.2026 26:10
It’s Mental Health Awareness Month, but beyond the advice and resources, real stories are also needed. In this episode, Angela and Jaime share their own experiences openly and honestly. Not to offer advice or solutions, but to create space for honesty and to help anyone listening feel a little less alone in what they may be carrying. They also discuss the role we play in supporting mental health i...
From Performance to Purpose: Unlearning Perfectionism 27.04.2026 27:41
What happens when the mindset that helped you succeed starts working against you? In this episode of Unlearning in Progress , we’re joined by Katie Virtue, former Division I hockey player, corporate leader, and self‑described recovering perfectionist. Katie shares her journey from elite athletics to the corporate world, where busyness became a status symbol and performance was measured by constan...
Trust the Season: What Nature Teaches Us About Leadership 20.04.2026 22:45
In honour of Earth Day this week, we’re taking the conversation outside. In this episode, Angela and Jaime explore the leadership lessons hidden in nature and what happens when we slow down enough to actually notice them. From the changing of seasons to the invisible growth of a planted seed, nature offers a powerful reminder: not everything is meant to happen all at once. Growth takes time. Rest...
Starting Before You’re Ready: Confidence Built Through Reps 13.04.2026 22:18
Jaime and Angela unpack the belief that you have to be prepared and fully qualified before you begin something or apply for that job. They discuss how mindset quietly keeps women opting out of opportunities they’ve earned the right to pursue. Using golf, job applications, leadership moments, and even the podcast itself, they explore why men often treat early attempts as practice while women can e...
From Climbing to Choosing: Stepping Off the Corporate Ladder 06.04.2026 29:17
In this episode, Angela opens up to Jaime about the deeply personal journey behind her decision to step off the corporate ladder. What looked like a successful leadership path from the outside slowly became a life that no longer fit on the inside. After years of overfunctioning, burnout, and carrying the weight of other people’s expectations, a moment of clarity made one truth impossible to ignore...
From External Validation to Inner Knowing: Reclaiming Self-Trust 30.03.2026 25:46
Jaime and Angela sit down with Jessica Berg, a somatic and inner child coach helping high-achieving women stop living against themselves and start building lives that feel aligned. After nearly two decades in corporate, including close to eight years at Adobe, Jess reached a breaking point. Despite building a successful career and life on paper, she found herself burned out, disconnected, and unab...
From Proving Yourself to Choosing Yourself: Becoming Intentional 23.03.2026 24:50
In this episode, Angela and Jaime sit down with Sara Onyschuk, a seasoned leader in enterprise sales and partner strategy, to explore what happens when a career built on proving yourself no longer feels aligned. Sara shares her journey from confidently saying yes to every opportunity, to stepping away from corporate life to focus on creativity and family, to returning to corporate with a clearer u...
Betting on Yourself: Choosing Alignment Over the Expected Path 16.03.2026 23:27
In our first guest episode of Unlearning in Progress , Angela and Jaime sit down with Deanna Christiansen, a seasoned leader with over three decades of experience, to explore what happens when the career you worked decades to build no longer reflects who you are becoming. Deanna shares her journey of working toward a long-held leadership goal, only to realize that in the process, she had been shri...
From Competition to Collaboration: Reimagining Women Supporting Women 02.03.2026 24:07
In this episode, Angela and Jaime examine how societal pressures, comparison, and scarcity mindsets often turn connection into competition. Through candid and vulnerable storytelling, they share moments of being hurt by other women, as well as the uncomfortable truth of times they themselves contributed to that harm. Together, they explore what it takes to unlearn these patterns, build authentic r...
Crying Without Shame: A Leadership Conversation 23.02.2026 29:11
Jaime and Angela discuss an often-taboo subject of crying in the workplace. They explore personal experiences, societal expectations, and the emotional intelligence associated with crying. Angela shares her journey of unlearning the shame associated with crying, while Jaime emphasizes the importance of emotional awareness and authenticity in leadership. The conversation highlights strategies for m...
Unlocking Potential: The Power of Coaching 16.02.2026 30:45
This week, Angela invites Jaime to share the heart behind her work as a leadership coach and why so many of us misunderstand what coaching is meant to do. They unpack why coaching isn’t about fixing, but about thriving, partnership, presence, and seeing yourself more clearly. Through honest conversation, they explore how coaching supports boundary‑setting, burnout recovery, confidence building, an...
Breaking Free from the Grind: Choosing a Life of Harmony 09.02.2026 25:17
In this conversation, Jaime and Angela discuss the concepts of hustle and grind, exploring the implications of grinding at work on mental health and productivity. They delve into the importance of recognizing burnout, setting boundaries, and the necessity of rest in a fast-paced work culture. The dialogue emphasizes the need to redefine work-life balance as harmony, focusing on the choices we make...
From Performance to Authenticity: Redefining Leadership 02.02.2026 30:49
In this conversation, Angela and Jaime explore the critical distinction between performance-based leadership and leading from a place of self-trust and authenticity. They discuss the importance of being aware of one's feelings and the impact of external pressures on decision-making. The dialogue emphasizes the journey towards authentic leadership, the significance of micro-decisions in building se...
Success, Detours, and the Career Path Forward 26.01.2026 24:43
In this episode, Angela and Jaime delve into their non-linear career paths, sharing personal stories of resilience and growth. Angela recounts her journey from a passionate high school student in film and television to facing significant personal challenges, including homelessness, before ultimately finding her footing in marketing. Jaime shares her own experiences, illustrating how she navigate...
Why ‘Doing Everything Right’ Feels Wrong 19.01.2026 23:40
In the inaugural episode of "Unlearning in Progress," co-hosts Jaime Waterfield and Angela Cope delve into the complexities of success, particularly for women who have achieved traditional markers of success yet feel unfulfilled. They explore the societal narratives surrounding ambition and worth, emphasizing that true success often diverges from external validation. The conversation highlights...
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