Vogue Australia
Under The Gloss with Phoebe Burgess
Under The Gloss doesn’t just scratch the surface, we go deep into conversations you didn’t know you needed to hear. Phoebe Burgess unpacks everything from sex, relationships, cancel culture and social media through the lens of honest and compelling conversations with experts, celebs and brave people with a story to share. No topic is off limits: if you’re Googling it or sharing it in your DM’s, Under The Gloss is talking about it.
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Episodes
The seven sins of Elise Loehnen 21.06.2023 1:00:42
Elise Loehnen might not feel like a celebrity at first glance, but her work is something that we're all extremely familiar with. Once in the pocket of wellness queen Gwyneth Paltrow as Goop's Chief Content Officer, Elise co-hosted the hit Netflix series Goop Lab, as well as the Goop podcast. But now, she's here to talk about something that is entirely and completely hers - her newly released book...
Linda Marigliano found the confidence to tell the world what she wanted 14.06.2023 56:25
Linda Marigliano is no stranger to talking on microphone; she was a celebrated presenter on Triple J for many years, and more recently, she hosted the podcast series Tough Love. But, it's only post-pandemic that she feels like she's really cracked open her inner world and been able to dissect some of the complicated relationships she has with her loved ones. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Pho...
The makeup artist behind Anne Hathaway's Renaissance 07.06.2023 56:33
Gucci has been one of the most sought after makeup artists in the glamorous world of magazines for decades. She was behind the Jennifer Anniston Allure cover in the tiny Chanel bikini; pregnant Brooke Shields on the cover of Vogue and the Anne Hathaway beauty renaissance of the past year or so. On this episode of Under the Gloss, Phoebe and Gucci sit down to talk all things makeup and beauty, fro...
Simone Kessell isn't afraid of female rage and female trauma - she's embracing it 01.06.2023 56:01
Simone Kessell has been acting for over 20 years - a few highlights from her extensive body of work include the original Australian favourite Heartbreak High and the iconic Hercules series. But at 47, it's her latest project that has gathered something of a cult following. With two seasons under their belt, Yellowjackets has already developed an intense fandom who are singing the praises of a dra...
Motherhood in the competitive world of science 24.05.2023 57:05
Few things excite Dr Vanessa Pirotta quite as much as whale snot. It might sound like a bit of an unusual interest, but Vanessa is a wildlife scientist that specialises in marine mammals, particularly the humpback whale. On today's episode of Under The Gloss, Vanessa joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to talk about what it means to be a woman in a field that has been traditionally dominated by men,...
The Charlotte Ree heart-to-heart you’ve been waiting for 17.05.2023 1:03:42
Charlotte Ree thought she had life all figured out. She met her ex-husband when she was 19, was married at 27 and had a five-year plan in place that filled her up. Until it didn't, and at 29 she and her husband separated. Two days later, Sydney entered its first COVID-19 lockdown, and Charlotte was forced to reckon with what it meant to be alone. On today's episode of Under The Gloss, Phoebe and...
Teresa Palmer on wanting motherhood and a career 'in abundance' 10.05.2023 47:58
Teresa Palmer may be an actress who has starred in more than 30 films as well as her new Disney+ miniseries The Clearing , but she’s first and foremost a devoted mum to her four beautiful children and a 'bonus kid' from her husband's previous relationship. On today's episode of Under The Gloss, Teresa is open and honest about how her worlds blur together; she talks about the reality of breastfeed...
Pallavi Sharda is igniting conversations about culture and context 03.05.2023 53:41
Prolific in every sense of the word, Pallavi Sharda has an impressive resume; in just the past year she's starred in Netflix hit Wedding Season and award-winning Australian drama The Twelve . And outside of Australia, she's an even bigger star - Pallavi started her career in India as a Bollywood actress. On today’s episode, Pallavi joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio for an incredibly nuanced con...
Tanya Plibersek - "It almost felt like I was having an affair" 26.04.2023 49:10
Tanya Plibersek has been in the public eye for almost 30 years – but you’ve never heard her like this. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Tanya swaps politics for the Vogue studio to chat to Phoebe about her childhood, her surprise pregnancy and how she balances parliament with parenting. She also opens up about the real reason why she turned down her party’s top job in 2019. See omnystudio.com/l...
Part two: “Don’t say you’re a single mum, unless you are” 19.04.2023 30:32
Jacinta Tynan became a single mother almost overnight. She left behind the idea of a nuclear family to live life on her own terms – and she’s not alone. Single parent families are the fastest growing family type in Australia. In part two of this special chat, Jacinta joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to chat about losing friends during separation (and finding them), why invitations dry up if you’re...
Part one: Jacinta Tynan on breaking up her family to follow her heart 12.04.2023 40:15
Jacinta Tynan became a single mother almost overnight. She left behind the idea of a nuclear family to live life on her own terms – and she’s not alone. Single parent families are the fastest growing family type in Australia. In part one of this two-part chat, Jacinta joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to share what it’s like to raise children on your own, how it feels to be the only adult in the ho...
Bianca Spender on Carla Zampatti, family legacies and gardening in silk nighties 05.04.2023 55:18
Two years ago, Bianca Spender hadn’t really experienced loss. But in the space of 18 months, the fashion designer lost her beloved mum, Carla Zampatti, and not long after, she lost her father. On today’s episode, Bianca joins Phoebe – after a quick wardrobe change – to chat about overcoming grief, childhood memories of the Carla Zampatti atelier, why she went to France to prove herself in the fash...
BONUS: How tweakments can enhance your beauty and confidence 05.04.2023 17:31
How you feel about beauty can have just as much of an impact on your mind and it does your face. Vogue Digital Head of Brand Ana Eksouzian-Cavadas joins Phoebe in this special bonus episode to chat about feeling comfortable and beautiful in your own skin, finding your confidence and why you shouldn’t follow trends when it comes to “tweakments”. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Nikki Gemmell and Phoebe Burgess are living their best sex free lives 29.03.2023 47:32
Have you ever thought about a sexless life? Nikki Gemmell has. She’s happily married with four kids – and for now, she’s over sex. The award winning author and columnist for The Australian doesn’t remember the last time she had sex. In today’s episode of Under The Gloss, Nikki joins Phoebe to chat first times, birth stories, embracing a post-sex life, what menopause is all about and the freedom of...
Camilla and Marc like you’ve never heard them 22.03.2023 48:23
Camilla and Marc aren’t just the fashion duo behind their namesake brand –they’re on a mission to end ovarian cancer. It’s a disease that kills about 1,042 Australian women every year – including their beloved mum. In today’s episode, Camilla and Marc join Phoebe in the Vogue studio to chat about their idyllic childhood, the devastating moment they realised their mum was ill, the ritual of sitting...
Sasha was told she was “too pretty to be Aboriginal” 15.03.2023 57:42
Sasha Kutabah Sarago was told she was “too pretty to be Aboriginal” as a child. Since that moment, the author and model has been working to decolonise beauty. On today’s episode, Sasha joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to talk about hiding her culture to avoid conflict, why she brought her own makeup to photo shoots and how Rihanna changed the beauty game. You can pick up a copy of Gigorou by Sasha...
Lilly Luhrmann: Confessions of a nepo baby 08.03.2023 55:18
Lilly Luhrmann grew up in the bright lights of Hollywood, spending her younger years on movie sets alongside her parents, Baz Luhrmann and Catherine Martin. On today’s episode, Lilly joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to chat all things fashion and family. She opens up about going to school being followed by the paparazzi, about fighting over Baz’s pearls, the reality of managing at a dive bar, owni...
Chloé Hayden on Harry Styles and igniting big conversations 01.03.2023 45:44
Heartbreak High’s Chloé Hayden isn’t afraid to make waves. The Netflix star called out ableism and discrimination at a Harry Styles concert – resulting in a one-on-one meeting with the stadium’s CEO. Not only is she an advocate, she’s an author, animal lover and the first Australian actor with autism to co-lead a global TV series. On today’s episode, Chloé joins Phoebe to chat about making the wor...
Beyonce, dating and escaping life’s pressure cooker: Inside the mind of Sloane Crosely 22.02.2023 45:38
New York Times best-selling author Sloane Crosley first shot to the literary limelight with her hit debut novel, I Was Told There’d Be Cake – which she wrote while holding down a successful career as a book publicist. Sloane has since quit her day job and embraced life as a full-time author, spending her days writing, napping and eating cheese. On today’s episode of Under the Gloss, Sloane joins P...
The world’s most powerful people all have this in common 15.02.2023 55:59
Jean Oelwang has found the secret power behind the most successful people in the world. The Founding President and CEO of Virgin Unite has spent the past 15 years figuring out exactly what makes people tick – and she’s unloading her expertise on today’s episode of Under The Gloss. Jean joins Phoebe to chat about how you can create your own success, the importance of leveraging partnerships for gro...
“F*** labels”: Sam Smith changed Deni Todorovič’s life 08.02.2023 57:11
Activist and author Deni Todorovič was turned down by four cabs because they were wearing heels and a mini skirt. That didn’t happen overseas – it happened right here in Australia, in 2023. On today’s episode of Under The Gloss, Deni joins Phoebe to chat about how they always felt innately different, why we’ve been conditioned to fear the queer community, the power of visibility and why being tran...
In a world full of Andrew Tates, we need Hunter Johnson 01.02.2023 59:20
Raising boys has never been more confronting, challenging – even scary. In a world with so many conflicting narratives around what it means to be a man, The Man Cave CEO Hunter Johnson is undoing the troubling behaviours around toxic masculinity. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Hunter joins Phoebe in the Vogue studio to chat about boyhood, the damaging effect of locker rooms and how intergener...
Drunk mummy, sober mummy: swapping glitter boobs for sobriety 24.01.2023 58:26
Victoria Vanstone loved to party. She partied so hard that she once blew her finger off with a firework at a New Year's Eve party. For the first 20 years of her life, Victoria wasn't sober, but she also didn't consider herself to be a problematic drinker. She fell somewhere in between going to the pub and going to a support meeting. On this episode of Under The Gloss, Victoria joins Phoebe to chat...
Sarah-Jane Clarke is sober-ish 18.01.2023 59:42
As the co-founder of sass & bide, Sarah-Jane Clarke’s days were filled with fashion shows, boutique openings and glamorous parties. What followed was endless binge drinking, hangovers and crippling anxiety. But three years after shedding her identity with sass & bide, she also ended her relationship with alcohol. On today’s episode, Phoebe sits down with Sarah-Jane to chat about embarking...
Accidentally sober: Phoebe opens up about life without alcohol 15.12.2022 40:02
Are you sober curious? For Phoebe, it was more accidental than planned. On this episode of Under The Gloss, we turn the tables and invite Felicity Harley, podcast host of Healthy-ish and Extra Healthy-ish, to ask Phoebe about the reason why she chose to embrace a sober lifestyle, how she deals with social events and the delicate balance of motherhood and alcohol. Trigger warning: We will be discus...
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