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[Un]Churned – The No. 1 Podcast for Customer Retention
If you're experimenting with automation, questioning the traditional post-sales model, or trying to drive more value with less headcount, you're in the right place. AI won’t fix churn, but these conversations might. Retention is the new growth, AI is rewriting the rules. Hosted by Josh Schachter, SVP of Atlas at Gainsight, [Un]Churned—the No. 1 podcast for retention and Customer Success leaders—features real talk with the sharpest minds in the Customer Success space. We dig into how teams are scaling smarter, activating AI agents, and redesigning the customer journey for lasting impact.
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Episodes
He Created a Job Title 1,000+ People Now Have ft. Yash Tekriwal (Clay) 08.07.2026 45:44
Most companies think of education as a support function, the real shift is treating it as a go-to-market engine. In this episode of the UnChurned Podcast, Josh Schachter and Samantha Murray sit down with Yash Tekriwal, Head of Go-to-Market Engineering Ecosystem at Clay, to unpack how he became the company's first-ever GTM Engineer, why Clay rebranded its entire education team, and what it actually...
Your North Star Metric Is Wrong (and It's Killing Your Retention) ft. Mark Roberge (Stage 2 Capital) 06.07.2026 39:40
Most founders treat product-market fit like a feeling. Mark Roberge thinks that's as absurd as calling profit a feeling. The founding CRO of HubSpot, Harvard Business School lecturer, and Stage 2 Capital co-founder joins Josh to break down his new book, The Science of Scaling. The argument at the center of it - the decision of when and how fast to scale shouldn't be a gut call. It should be gated...
How to Sell Community to a CEO Who Doesn't Care About Community ft. Chris Catania (Esri) 01.07.2026 39:12
Most leaders treat community as a marketing channel. They're leaving the real advantage on the table. Chris Catania , Head of Community at Esri built community from a love of live music. Lately, he wrote the playbook. In this episode he joins Erica Kuhl, who scaled Salesforce's legendary Trailblazer community, and Josh Schachter to make the case that community isn't a nice-to-have. It's a strategi...
Ex-Microsoft AI Lead: Why Smart Teams With Big Budgets Still Fail at AI ft. Brian Evergreen (The Future Solving Company) 29.06.2026 23:10
Everyone's racing to "do AI." Almost nobody can say what for. Brian Evergreen, Forbes AI thought leader, author of Autonomous Transformation, ex-Microsoft, Founder & CEO of The Future Solving Company joins Josh Schachter to flip the playbook. Start with a problem? That traps you in incrementalism. Be data-driven? There's no data about the future. The old industrial-era moves quietly sabotage e...
The 45% Problem: Why Unit4 Cut Mid-Touch and Bet on AI ft. Jean de Villiers 24.06.2026 33:24
No one celebrates a new ERP. No champagne. Just groans. Jean de Villiers, Chief Customer Officer at Unit4, wants to flip that script. Jean shares they have kept customers for 20+ years in an industry built on dread. Secret? He runs customer success like a business, not a cost center. He cut the safe middle option. He's betting big on AI agents. And he trains his whole team to have the uncomfortabl...
How AWS's Developer Community Grew 3,600 Builders Across 110 Countries ft. Jason Dunn 22.06.2026 26:10
Two hands. A free Slack channel. A spreadsheet. That was the entire toolkit when AWS asked Jason Dunn to build a developer community. Jason Dunn spent five years on building something people actually want to belong to. He grew a developer community into thousands of members spread across more than a hundred countries, working with far less budget and tooling than you'd expect. This conversatio...
The Retention Killer Hiding in Your Product Demos ft. Kellie Snyder (LinkSquares) 19.06.2026 29:07
What if giving customers more value is exactly what's making them leave? Kellie Snyder, Chief Customer Officer at LinkSquares, joins Josh Schachter after a two-year replatform to fully agentic contract management. She unpacks how AI reshaped their customer 360, the retention mistake hiding in their onboarding, why digital-first went too far, and how to bring human engagement back without losin...
The GTM Playbook Behind 133 Million Learners ft. Monika Saha (Articulate) 16.06.2026 35:06
133 million learners. 100% of the Fortune 100. And the woman steering go-to-market behind those numbers will tell you to stop chasing churn. Monika Saha, CCO of Articulate, doesn't trade in best-practice platitudes. In this episode she takes the sacred cows out back: why "customer education is a cost center" is half-wrong instead of all-wrong, when fighting retention is a flat waste...
Why Selling Software Isn't Enough Anymore ft. Chuck Ganapathi (Gainsight) 08.06.2026 29:31
Most companies think selling software is enough, but the real shift is owning the outcome. In this episode of the [Un]Churned Podcast, Josh Schachter sits down with Chuck Ganapathi, CEO of Gainsight, live from Pulse 2026 at Caesars Forum in Las Vegas, to unpack why the next era of SaaS isn't about selling seats, it's about delivering results. Chuck shares the thinking behind Gainsight's biggest st...
What Happens When CS Teams Cross the Commercial Line ft. Chael Banks (Okta) 03.06.2026 30:56
Everybody can build with Claude now, but nobody figured out the responsibility part yet. Chael Banks runs customer success at Okta. 20,000 customers. Billions of logins a day. In this episode he breaks down a hard rule: his team will never sell. Ever. Why? Trust. In identity security, trust is everything. The moment money becomes the motive, the relationship tarnishes. Chael draws a sharp line bet...
The Creator of NPS Says It Was Never Built for Surveys ft. Fred Reichheld (Bain & Company) 27.05.2026 48:14
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. Most companies think customer loyalty is about retention but the real metric is referrals. In this episode of the UnChurned Podcast, Josh Schachter sits down with Fred Reichheld the creator of N...
Why The Best CS Leaders Start With The Boardroom, Not The Product ft. Adnan Rahman (Paycor) 20.05.2026 25:50
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. Most CS teams are stuck in a loop. Monitor the health score. Chase the red account. Run the QBR. Hope the renewal sticks. Adnan Rahman saw the loop. And broke it. As the Head of Customer & P...
The AI Acceleration Decade Is Coming. Are You Ready? ft. Scott Barker (Enfold Institute) 13.05.2026 37:26
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. Most people in tech are sprinting toward AI. Scott Barker, Partner & MD at Enfold Institute, Ex-Partner at GTMfund, and the youngest director in Outreach history, is among the few who stoppe...
Ironclad's CCO Reveals How AI Actually Predicts Churn ft. Rob Edmondson 06.05.2026 26:52
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. Rob Edmondson, CCO at Ironclad - an AI contracting platform - brings a military-grade operating philosophy to customer outcomes: mission first, people always. In this episode, he breaks down wha...
The Surprising Way Microsoft Does Customer Success at Scale ft. Pradeep Raman (Microsoft) 29.04.2026 21:56
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. When your customer success org covers all of Azure — Microsoft's $60B+ cloud business — "deployment" isn't a checkbox. It's a global operation spanning thousands of projects, 180+ people, and a...
The CCO Who Also Owns Sales (Here's Why It Works) ft. Brad Casemore (PartsSource) 22.04.2026 29:45
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. When healthcare equipment goes down, healthcare goes down. That's the world Brad Casemore operates in — where a broken MRI or a failed sterilization unit isn't an inconvenience, it's a crisis. I...
Inside Google's AI-First Post-Sales Playbook ft. Brady Bluhm (Gainsight) & Diane Wu (Google) 15.04.2026 41:02
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. Knowledge used to be the CSM's edge. Not anymore. Diane Wu, Global Head of Customer Success & Experience at Google Cloud Security, operates where every touchpoint is mission-critical — and s...
The Future of GTM Might Belong to Answer Engines ft. Eric Gilpin (G2) 08.04.2026 33:34
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. Watch Eric Gilpin, President of Go-To-Market at G2 , reveal how he’s building the first-ever unified revenue org in a 210,000-product marketplace. In this episode, he takes us behind the scenes...
Why Replit's CRO is Hiring 200 GTM People in 12 Months ft. Ghazi Masood (Replit) 01.04.2026 34:21
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. What does the future of CS actually look like? Ghazi Masood, CRO of Replit, has some strong opinions and the growth numbers to back them up. In one year, Replit went from $2M to $150M in revenue...
How monday.com Turned CSMs Into Revenue Owners ft. Cassie Vaughn (monday.com) 25.03.2026 27:44
Heading to Vegas this May? Join Josh at Pulse 2026 and come say hi—your oversized fluorescent daiquiri is on him. No catch. Grab your ticket at gainsightpulse.com and use code UNCHURNED for a special rate. CS is going through an identity crisis. Is it product? Is it relationships? Is it revenue? According to Cassie Vaughn (RVP of CS at monday.com)… it’s now all three, and AI is forcing it to be so...
How OpenAI Built a Champion Network to Drive AI Adoption ft. Christina Meng (OpenAI) 18.03.2026 43:35
Ready to churn less and win more? 🏆 Subscribe for a simple, once-a-month rundown of the episodes at gainsight.com/unchurned Most companies treat AI rollouts like software deployments. But according to Christina Meng (OpenAI), AI adoption isn’t a technology problem — it’s a human transformation challenge. In this episode of Unchurned, Josh Schachter sits down with Christina, the leader behind the...
How Slido Cut Support Tickets by 70% With AI ft. Jo Massie (Slido) 13.03.2026 18:41
Ready to churn less and win more? 🏆 Subscribe for a simple, once-a-month rundown of the episodes at gainsight.com/unchurned What does it actually take to move from human-first customer success to digital-first at scale? In this episode of Unchurned, host Jenny Calvert sits down with Jo Massie, COO at Slido, to unpack how her team is transforming customer experience using AI, community-led support...
How CS Leaders Can Build Relationships Between Meetings to Drive Retention & Expansion ft.Darren McKee (531 Social) 12.03.2026 41:08
Ready to churn less and win more? 🏆 Subscribe for a simple, once-a-month rundown of the episodes at gainsight.com/unchurned Customer Success is changing fast, and many CS leaders are realizing that staying visible to customers between meetings is becoming essential. In this episode of Unchurned, host Josh Schachter sits down with social selling expert Darren McKee to explore how LinkedIn can beco...
Inside SAP’s Scaled Customer Success Strategy ft. Carsten Schütz (SAP) 06.03.2026 25:14
Ready to churn less and win more? 🏆 Subscribe for a simple, once-a-month rundown of the episodes at gainsight.com/unchurned In this episode of Unchurned, Jenny Calvert sits down with Carsten Schütz, VP & Global Head of Scaled CS at SAP, to talk about how modern CS teams must evolve to serve thousands of customers without losing the human touch. Carsten shares how his journey from startup CSM...
How This Ex-CRO Is Making CS Impossible to Ignore ft. Manish Chawla (PowerSchool) 04.03.2026 37:34
Ready to churn less and win more? 🏆 Subscribe for a simple, once-a-month rundown of the episodes at gainsight.com/unchurned Customer Success doesn’t become mission-critical because you say it is. It becomes mission-critical when it owns revenue. In this episode of Unchurned, Josh Schachter sits down with Manish Chawla, CCO at PowerSchool, to talk about what it actually takes to make CS essential...
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