Mark and Allen
Two Voice Devs
Mark and Allen talk about the latest news in the VoiceFirst world from a developer point of view.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 201 - Introduction to KitOps for MLOps 02.08.2024 33:59
Join Allen and Mark in this episode of Two Voice Devs as they dive into the world of MLOps and explore KitOps, an open-source tool for packaging and versioning machine learning models and related artifacts. Learn how KitOps leverages the Open Container Initiative (OCI) standard to simplify model sharing and deployment. More info: https://kitops.ml Key Topics and Timestamps: What is DevOps? (0:00:4...
Episode 200 - Four Years and Looking Forward 26.07.2024 26:09
Mark Tucker and Allen Firstenberg celebrate 200 episodes and four years of Two Voice Devs! In this special episode, they reflect on the journey so far, the evolution of the AI landscape, and what excites them most about the future of development. Join them as they discuss: 00:00 Four years ago... 00:10 The evolution of large language models (LLMs) and how the landscape has shifted over the past ye...
Episode 199 - Is the Future of AI Local? 22.07.2024 31:34
Join Allen Firstenberg and Roger Kibbe as they delve into the exciting world of local, embedded LLMs. We navigate some technical gremlins along the way, but that doesn't stop us from exploring the reasons behind this shift, the potential benefits for consumers and vendors, and the challenges developers will face in this new landscape. We discuss the "killer features" needed to drive...
Episode 198 - Wisdom from Unparsed: LLMs are Hammers, Not Silver Bullets 12.07.2024 41:47
Join us on Two Voice Devs as we welcome back Roger Kibbe. Fresh off emceeing the developer track at the Unparsed Conference in London, Roger shares his insights on the biggest takeaways, trends, and challenges facing #GenAI, #VoiceFirst and #ConversationalAI developers today. Get ready for a dose of reality as Roger emphasizes the need to view LLMs as powerful tools – think hammers – rather than m...
Episode 197 - Alexa Skill Development in the Age of LLMs 05.07.2024 40:19
What should people developing with LLMs learn from a decade of experience building Alexa skills? How will Alexa skill developers leverage the latest #GenerativeAI and #CoversationalAI tools as they continue to build #VoiceFirst and multimodal skills? Join Allen and Mark on Two Voice Devs as they delve into the evolving landscape of Alexa skill development in the era of large language models (LLMs)...
Epsidoe 196 - Is GPT 4o a Game Changer? 06.06.2024 22:50
OpenAI's ChatGPT 4o and GPT 4o announcements have sent shockwaves through the developer community! In this episode of Two Voice Devs, Mark and Allen dive into the implications of these new models, comparing them to Google's Gemini. We discuss: [00:00:10] Initial takeaways from the OpenAI presentations. [00:02:29] The impressive voice capabilities of ChatGPT 4o. [00:04:49] Concerns about Op...
Episode 195 - Android, Agents, and the Rabbit R1 30.05.2024 35:19
Allen Firstenberg chats with fellow Google Developer Expert (GDE) Mike Wolfson about his career, the evolution of Android, and his new interest in generative AI. Mike shares his thoughts on the future of AI with agents, Large Action Models (LAMs), and the potential of the "Rabbit," a new AI-powered device. Does the Rabbit live up to its promise? If not - what could? Timestamps: 00:00:00...
Episode 194 - Google AI/O 2024 17.05.2024 23:20
Join Allen and Roya as they dissect the major AI announcements from Google I/O 2024. From Gemini updates and new models to responsible AI and groundbreaking projects like ASTRA, this episode dives into the future of AI development. Timestamps: [00:00:00] Introduction and Google I/O Overview [00:02:00] Gemini 1.5 Flash & Gemini 1.5 Pro: New Models and Features [00:04:30] AI Studio Access Expans...
Episode 193 - Revolutionizing Intent Classification 09.05.2024 39:58
Join Allen and Mark as they delve into Voiceflow's groundbreaking new feature: intent classification using a hybrid of LLMs and classic NLU models. Discover how this innovative approach leverages the strengths of both technologies to achieve greater accuracy and flexibility in understanding user intent. How they're doing it just may blow your mind! 🤯 Timestamps: 0:00:00 - Introduction 0:0...
Episode 192 - Google Cloud Next 2024 Recap 26.04.2024 40:35
Join Allen Firstenberg and guest host Stefania Pecore on Two Voice Devs as they delve into the exciting announcements and highlights from Google Cloud Next 2024! This episode focuses on the latest advancements in AI and their impact on the healthcare industry, providing valuable insights for developers and tech enthusiasts. Learn more: * https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/google-cloud-next/googl...
Episode 191 - Beyond the Hype: Exploring BERT 19.04.2024 40:15
This episode of Two Voice Devs takes a closer look at BERT, a powerful language model with applications beyond the typical hype surrounding large language models (LLMs). We delve into the specifics of BERT, its strengths in understanding and classifying text, and how developers can utilize it for tasks like sentiment analysis, entity recognition, and more. Timestamps: 0:00:00: Introduction 0:01:04...
Episode 190 - Google Gemma's Tortoise and Hare Adventure 11.04.2024 28:14
Embark on a wild race with Gemma as we explore the exciting (and sometimes slow) world of running Google's open-source large language model! We'll test drive different methods, from the leisurely pace of Ollama on a local machine to the speedier Groq platform. Join us as we compare these approaches, analyzing performance, costs, and ease of use for developers working with LLMs. Will the to...
Episode 189 - Farewell, ADR: The Impact on Alexa Developers 05.04.2024 26:17
The Alexa Developer Rewards Program (ADR) is shutting down, leaving many developers wondering about the future of Alexa skills. Mark and Allen discuss the implications of this change, explore alternative monetization options, and share their thoughts on the future of skill development. Timestamps: 0:00 - Intro and announcement of the ADR program ending 1:45 - History of the ADR program and its imp...
Episode 188 - Building Responsible AI with Gemini 29.03.2024 30:06
As large language models (LLMs) become increasingly powerful, ensuring their responsible use is crucial. In this episode of Two Voice Devs, Allen and Mark delve into Google's Gemini LLM, specifically its built-in safety features designed to prevent harmful outputs like harassment, hate speech, sexually explicit content, and dangerous information. Join them as they discuss: (00:01:55) The impor...
Episode 187 - LLMs in Developer Tools 21.03.2024 26:23
In this episode of Two Voice Devs, Mark and Allen discuss how developers can leverage AI tools like ChatGPT to improve their workflow. Mark shares his experience using ChatGPT to generate an OpenAPI specification from TypeScript types, saving him significant time and effort. They discuss the benefits and limitations of using AI for code generation, emphasizing the importance of understanding the g...
Episode 186 - Conversational AI with Voiceflow Functions 14.03.2024 26:56
Join us on Two Voice Devs as we chat with Xavi, Head of Cloud Infrastructure at Voiceflow, about the exciting new Voiceflow Functions feature and the future of conversational AI development. Xavi shares his journey into the world of bots and assistants, dives into the technology behind Voiceflow's infrastructure, and explains how functions empower developers to create custom, reusable componen...
Episode 185 - Cloud vs Local LLMs: A Developer's Dilemma 07.03.2024 51:07
In this episode of Two Voice Devs, Allen Firstenberg and Roger Kibbe explore the rising trend of local LLMs, smaller language models designed to run on personal devices instead of relying on cloud-based APIs. They discuss the advantages and disadvantages of this approach, focusing on data privacy, control, cost efficiency, and the unique opportunities it presents for developers. They also delve in...
Episode 184 - Large Action Models: The Future of Conversational AI? 01.03.2024 39:13
Join Allen and Mark on Two Voice Devs as they dive into the world of Large Action Models (LAMs) and explore their potential to revolutionize how we build chatbots and voice assistants. Inspired by Braden Ream's article "How Large Action Models Work and Change the Way We Build Chatbots and Agents," the discussion dissects the core functions of conversational AI - understand, decide, a...
Episode 183 - Gemini 1.5: One Million Tokens, Endless Possibilities? 🤯 23.02.2024 45:20
Google's Gemini 1.5 is here, boasting a mind-blowing 1 million token context window! 🤯 Join Allen and Linda as they dive deep into this experimental AI, exploring its capabilities, limitations, and potential use cases. 🤔 They share their experiences testing Gemini 1.5 with original content, including Two Voice Devs transcripts and synthetic videos, and discuss the challenges of finding data...
Episode 182 - Bard Becomes Gemini: Why Devs Care 09.02.2024 18:58
In this episode of Two Voice Devs, hosts Allen Firstenberg and Mark Tucker discuss Gemini, Google's latest name for its Generative AI... stuff. Originally known as separate products including Bard and Duet AI, Gemini encompasses a suite of AI tools, including chatbots, product-specific assistants, models, and APIs that developers can use for various tasks. The discussion covers how Gemini comp...
Episode 181 - Let Your Web Pages Talk With CSS 02.02.2024 43:06
In this episode of Two Voice Devs, hosts Allen Firstenberg and Mark Tucker discuss the CSS Speech Module Level 1 Candidate Recommendation Draft, a standard that enables webpages to talk, developed in collaboration with the voice browser activity. They explore its features including the 'aural' box model concept, voice families, earcons and more, drawing parallels with SSML and highlight it...
Episode 180 - Run Rabbit One 29.01.2024 47:23
Forget Apps! Talking to this Orange Cube Could Change Everything Is the app model broken? The creators of Rabbit R1, a new voice-first device, certainly think so. In this episode of Two Voice Devs, Mark and Allen break down this innovative device and its potential to change how we interact with technology. What do developers think about the technology underlying RabbitOS? You may be surprised! Key...
Episode 179 - What's New With APL 2023.3 12.01.2024 39:27
In this episode of 'Two Voice Devs', hosts Allen Firstenberg and Mark Tucker discuss updates made to Alexa Presentation Language (APL) version 2023.3. They highlight conditional imports, updates made for animations, and more, including APL support for different devices and how to "handle" backward compatibility. Learn More: https://developer.amazon.com/en-US/docs/alexa/alexa-pres...
Episode 178 - Looking Forward to 2024 05.01.2024 30:22
In their New Year's discussion, Mark and Allen explore their hopes and predictions for technological advancements in 2024. They discuss the future of Large Language Models (and if that's the right name for them now), expressing anticipation for improvements in latency issues and the potential for models to be hosted on devices rather than cloud-based platforms. The conversation also ventur...
Episode 177 - Looking Back at 2023 29.12.2023 21:36
Allen Firstenberg and Mark Tucker, hosts of Two Voice Devs, reflect on the year 2023, discussing significant changes and trends in the #VoiceFirst and #GenerativeAI industry and where their predictions from last year were accurate... or fell short. They discuss the transformation and challenges Amazon faced, gleaning predictions from hints at large language models (LLMs) from Google, Amazon, Micro...
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