Mark and Allen
Two Voice Devs
Mark and Allen talk about the latest news in the VoiceFirst world from a developer point of view.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episode 226 - Examining Google's Perspective on Agents 03.02.2025 40:34
Google's white paper on AI Agents has sparked debate – are they truly the next leap in AI, or just large language models dressed up with new terminology? Join Allen and Mark of Two Voice Devs as they dive into the details, exploring the potential of Google's framework while also critically examining its shortcomings. They analyze the core components of agents – models, tools, and orchestra...
Episode 225 - AI, Personalization, and the Future of UX 27.01.2025 56:50
Join Allen Firstenberg as he welcomes Lee Mallon, a first-time guest host, for an in-depth discussion about the future of development, user experiences, and the exciting potential of AI-driven personalization! Lee shares his journey from coding on a Toshiba MX 128k to becoming CTO of Yalpop, a company reinventing learning through personalized experiences. This isn't just another AI hype-cast –...
Episode 224 - AI is Coming for Your Code! (Is That a Bad Thing?) 16.01.2025 45:14
Hold onto your keyboards, folks! AI is shaking up the software engineering world, and in this electrifying episode of Two Voice Devs, Allen and Mark are diving headfirst into the chaos. We're not just talking about the theory – we're getting real about how AI coding tools are actually impacting developers right now. Is this the end of coding as we know it, or the dawn of a new era of software crea...
Episode 223 - Grounding Gemini with Google Search and LangChainJS 10.01.2025 22:57
Join Mark and Allen, your favorite Two Voice Devs, as they explore the exciting (and sometimes frustrating!) world of Gemini 2.0's search grounding capabilities and how to use it with LangChainJS! Allen shares his recent holiday project: a deep dive into Google's latest AI tools, including the revamped search grounding feature, and how he made it work seamlessly across Gemini 1.5 and 2.0. We'll sh...
Episode 222 - 2024 Recap / 2025 Predictions: AI, Agents, Voice Assistants, and More 06.01.2025 29:35
Happy New Year from Two Voice Devs! Join Allen Firstenberg and Mark Tucker as they recap the whirlwind that was 2024 in AI and tech, and make some bold predictions for 2025. We're diving deep into the biggest players, the most exciting innovations, and the developer challenges that lie ahead. From OpenAI's O3 and Google's Gemini 2.0 to the rise of Anthropic and the resurgence of head-mounted weara...
Episode 221 - AI Holiday Gift Guide: Amazon, Meta, Google, OpenAI, and MORE! 23.12.2024 23:31
It's the holiday season, and the AI world has been showering us with gifts! Join Mark and Allen on Two Voice Devs as they unwrap a mountain of new announcements and releases from Amazon, Meta, Google, and OpenAI. From groundbreaking new models to developer-friendly tools, this episode is packed with insights on the latest advancements in AI. We'll explore the features and potential of each new "pr...
Episode 220 - How to Actually Explain Complex Tech Without Being Boring 20.12.2024 24:56
Ever felt like your tech presentations, tutorials, or even code explanations are falling flat? You're not alone! In this episode of Two Voice Devs, Allen and Mark dive deep into the art of effective communication in tech, exploring how to move beyond just listing facts to building a compelling narrative that actually helps people understand. Inspired by a recent presentation that Allen felt was "j...
Episode 219 - The Ethics of Data Scraping and LLMs 12.12.2024 23:30
Join Mark and Allen on Two Voice Devs this week as they delve into a critical discussion about data scraping, large language models (LLMs), and the ethical responsibilities of developers. From the recent controversy surrounding BlueSky data scraping and Hugging Face datasets to the complexities of copyright law and personal privacy in the age of AI, this episode explores the gray areas and tough q...
Episode 218 - Jovo's Sunset: A Celebration and Look Ahead 09.12.2024 28:41
The Jovo open-source framework, a beloved tool for building cross-platform voice applications, is being archived. Join Mark and Allen as they discuss Jovo's history, its impact on the voice development landscape, and what its sunset means for developers. While the news might be bittersweet, we take this opportunity to celebrate Jovo's contributions and explore the valuable lessons learned from its...
Episode 217 - A Thanksgiving Tradition: Gratitude, Community, and the Ever-Changing World of Development 28.11.2024 14:18
Join Allen Firstenberg and Mark Tucker in this heartwarming Thanksgiving episode of Two Voice Devs! In a year of rapid advancements and shifts in the tech landscape, they take a moment to express sincere gratitude for the people, opportunities, and community that make their developer journey so rewarding. They reflect on the challenges and triumphs of the past year, the importance of support netwo...
Episode 216 - DevAI: Threat or Enabler? Live Q&A from Voice & AI 2024 21.11.2024 34:55
Join Allen Firstenberg and Noble Ackerson, hosts of the Two Voice Devs podcast, for a lively and insightful Q&A session recorded live at Voice & AI 2024! We dive into the burning questions surrounding AI's impact on software development, exploring the potential threats and exciting opportunities presented by tools like GitHub Copilot and Cursor. From the future of junior developers to the...
Episode 215 - Unlock Cross-Platform Machine Learning Model Deployment 15.11.2024 27:44
Tired of wrestling with platform-specific machine learning model formats? Join Allen Firstenberg and Mark Tucker on Two Voice Devs as they explore ONNX (Open Neural Network Exchange), a game-changing open format built to streamline your ML model deployment workflow. Discover how ONNX empowers you to train models in your preferred framework (PyTorch, TensorFlow, scikit-learn, etc.) and seamlessly e...
Episode 214 - NotebookLM: The Future of Personalized AI Learning for Developers? 07.11.2024 31:26
Dive into the world of AI-powered learning with Allen and Mark as they explore Google's innovative NotebookLM. This cutting-edge tool offers a fascinating glimpse into the potential of Google's Gemini AI model. NotebookLM allows you to centralize your notes, documents, and even audio/video transcripts, transforming them into an interactive knowledge base. Discover how its conversational interface...
Episode 213 - Scary Developer Stories: A Halloween Special 31.10.2024 22:29
Boo! Join Two Voice Devs for a special Halloween episode filled with chilling tales from the software development crypt. Mark and Allen recount true stories of coding nightmares, from dropped databases to runaway pings, and offer words of wisdom for surviving your own development horrors. Listen with the lights on (if you dare) as they explore the spooky side of coding, complete with a chilling Ha...
Episode 212 - Data Labeling for Developers 25.10.2024 36:06
Join Mark and Allen, your Two Voice Devs, as they delve into the crucial world of data labeling for machine learning model training. Whether you're a seasoned data scientist or a developer just starting to explore AI, understanding data labeling is essential for building effective models. In this episode, they explore various data labeling techniques, from manual labeling for simple voice apps to...
Episode 211 - Apple Intelligence and Siri's Future (and Beyond) 18.10.2024 59:56
Join us for a fascinating conversation with John G, a seasoned voice developer, as he shares his insights into Apple's approach to AI and the future of Siri. John discusses his journey from helping content creators to the Alexa ecosystem and then into the Apple world, driven by the potential of App Intents and the evolving landscape of Apple Intelligence. We delve into the technical details, explo...
Episode 210 - Simplifying Generative AI Development with Firebase GenKit & GitHub Models 11.10.2024 22:29
Join Mark and Xavier on Two Voice Devs as they dive into the world of generative AI development with Firebase GenKit and GitHub Models. Xavier, a Google Developer Expert in AI, Microsoft MVP in AI, and GitHub Star, shares his insights on these emerging technologies and his open-source project that bridges the gap between them. Discover how Firebase GenKit offers a simpler, more modular approach to...
Episode 209 - AI-Powered Pronunciation: Conquering Tricky TTS 04.10.2024 18:55
This episode of Two Voice Devs, recorded before the exciting announcement of OpenAI's GPT-4o Realtime and Audio previews, tackles a classic developer challenge: taming unruly text-to-speech (TTS) engines. Triggered by a listener question, Allen and Mark dive into the frustrating inconsistencies of TTS pronunciation, particularly when dealing with dynamically generated text from LLMs. They explore...
Episode 208 - O1: Reasoning Engine or Agent's Brain? 26.09.2024 47:02
Join us as we dive deep into OpenAI's latest model, O1, with special guest host Michal Stanislavik, founder of utter.one and one of the voice community builder behind VoiceLunch. We explore the model's "reasoning" capabilities, its potential impact on conversational AI, and how developers can leverage its strengths. Michal shares his insights from hands-on experience, highlightin...
Episode 207 - Mentorship in Software Development 20.09.2024 34:13
Join Mark and Allen on this episode of Two Voice Devs as they dive into the often overlooked but crucial topic of mentorship in software development. They explore what mentorship is (and isn't), the benefits for both mentor and mentee, and share personal anecdotes and practical advice. Whether you're a seasoned developer or just starting out, this episode offers valuable insights into fost...
Episode 206 - Building Powerful AI Agents with LangGraph 13.09.2024 37:46
Dive into the world of agentic AI development with Allen and Mark as they explore LangGraph, a powerful state management system for building dynamic and complex AI agents with LangChain. Discover how LangGraph simplifies agent design, handles state transitions, integrates tools, and enables robust error handling – all while keeping the LLM at the heart of your application. Further Info: * https://...
Episode 205 - Gemini + LangGraph Agents + Google Sheets = Vodo Drive 05.09.2024 51:25
Join us as we explore Vodo Drive, an innovative project that leverages Google's Gemini AI to revolutionize how we interact with spreadsheets. Creator Allen Firstenberg takes us behind the scenes, revealing the architecture, challenges, and breakthroughs of building an agentic system that understands and manipulates data like never before. Discover how Vodo Drive: * Empowers natural language in...
Episode 204 - Alexa Skill Sunset Strategies 29.08.2024 25:07
In this episode of Two Voice Devs, Allen and Mark discuss the considerations and strategies for shutting down an Alexa skill. They explore various reasons why developers might choose to sunset their skills, including declining usage, deprecated features, and the evolving Alexa landscape. They also delve into the technical aspects of skill removal, highlighting the options of hiding or removing a s...
Episode 203 - Imagen 3: Stunning Realism & Ethical Questions 23.08.2024 41:04
Join Allen and Linda as they dive into Google's Imagen 3 and Imagen 3 Fast, a powerful new set of image generation models. We explore its capabilities, pricing, features, and limitations, including a deep dive into the API and how to use it with Python code. This episode features an in-depth look at Imagen 3's photorealism and comparison with its predecessor, Imagen 2. We examine the ethic...
Epsiode 202 - Hosting and Large Language Models 15.08.2024 27:16
Join Allen Firstenberg and Mark Tucker on Two Voice Devs as they discuss the challenges and solutions of hosting large language models (LLMs). They explore various hosting environments, including Firebase, AWS Amplify, Vertex AI, and Docker/Kubernetes, comparing their strengths and weaknesses. Allen shares his experience with Firebase Cloud Functions and the seamless integration with Google Cloud...
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