Two Types of People with Pat Sitkins

What separates people who dream from people who actually build extraordinary lives? After producing thousands of hours of television and working alongside some of the biggest names in entertainment, four-time Emmy Award-winning producer Shane Farley has developed a unique perspective on that question. Throughout his career, Shane has helped shape hit shows including Steve Harvey, The Voice, The Ra...

Lorena Segura has built a career by embracing new opportunities. An actress, television host, The Amazing Race competitor, and host of the Spanish-language editions of The College Tour , Lorena has spent her life proving that success doesn't always follow a straight line. In this episode of Two Types of People , she reflects on the tension between focus and exploration, what it means to reinvent y...

A recent episode and Chapter One in "Two Types of People" introduces you to Alex Boylan. This conversation takes us to the original Amazing Race Season One finish line.  Brennan Swain is the winner of the very first season of The Amazing Race, a champion adventure racer, accomplished patent attorney, and one of Alex Boylan's closest friends for more than two decades. In this episode, Brennan share...

Jeff Schroeder America's Favorite Houseguest, Big Brother Competitor, The Amazing Race & Around the World for Free Television Host & Producer Co-Host of TogetherMess with Jordan Lloyd   Before he became "America's Favorite" Houseguest on Big Brother, competed on The Amazing Race, went Around the World for Free, and built a career in television, Jeff Schroeder was just trying to figure out what cam...

Alex Boylan has spent most of his life saying “yes” before he felt fully ready. From moving to Brazil alone at 15 years old… to winning The Amazing Race 2… to building a career producing travel television and creating The College Tour, Alex has consistently leaned into discomfort, curiosity, and opportunity. But this conversation goes way beyond television. Alex and Pat Sitkins discuss: becoming c...

Austin Tovey isn’t asking for permission to live his life, and this episode has one overarching theme - taking ownership. Professional foilboarder, innovator, and waterman Austin Tovey joins Pat Sitkins to talk about the evolution of foiling, the freedom found in the ocean, and the mindset required to keep progressing when most people stop. From his early days with now fellow pro rider Noah Flegel...

Angela Birch, owner of Focus Fitness doesn’t see the world the same way most people do. When asked the core question, her answer was simple: Players and spectators. Some people step into the arena. They take risks, make decisions without guarantees, and choose a path that often feels harder than it needs to be. Others build a life around stability, security, and predictability. Neither is wrong, b...

In this Two Types of People episode Tim Leman, CEO of Gibson, shares insights on business growth, leadership challenges, mentorship, and the importance of perseverance. Discover practical advice and personal stories that highlight the journey of building a successful company and the value of community support. This isn’t a conversation about surface-level growth or leadership tactics. It’s about w...

Guffy Wright, National Sales Leader at The Mahoney Group, breaks down what actually drives performance inside an employee-owned insurance agency. Not theory… execution. At the center of this bonus episode is his answer to Two Types of People: Those who understand value… and those who don’t. This featurette ties directly into the Larry G. Linne episode and brings it into the real world. We get into...

Larry G. Linne’s latest work, Keeping It Light , is built around the leadership “isms” of David Pattison… simple, memorable principles that help leaders think clearly, make better decisions, and move faster when things get complex. Larry’s role was taking those ideas and bringing them to life. Through real-world experience, stories, and application, he helps translate Pattison’s isms into somethin...

Starters vs. Closers | Consistency, Curiosity, and Doing the Work   Andy Neary joins host Pat Sitkins to break down a simple but real distinction: Starters vs. Closers. Not just in baseball… in business, sales, and life. Starters have ideas. Energy. Intent. Closers show up consistently, stay curious, and do the work long enough to actually produce results. In this conversation, we get into routine...

Larry G. Linne is a Former NFL Player and Elite Business Consultant but to Pat Sitkins he is a long-time friend, business partner, advisor, and fishing buddy. They discuss Larry's journey through football, the importance of discipline and sacrifice, and his concept of 'Two Types of People'—those who decide and those who act. Larry shares personal stories, insights on motivation, and introduces his...

There are two types of people: Givers and Takers. At least according to Dr. Anne Prisco . As President of Holy Family University, she sees it every day. The people who step up, take ownership, and contribute to something bigger than themselves… and those who approach everything through the lens of what they get in return. But for Dr. Prisco, this isn’t just a mindset. It’s built into the foundatio...

Karen Fox sees leadership from a unique vantage point. As Head of Talent Attraction & Engagement at Berkadia , the largest non-bank commercial real estate lender in the United States, Karen spends her days helping organizations build teams that actually work. Berkadia itself is a joint venture between Berkshire Hathaway and Jefferies , operating at the center of the multifamily commercial real est...

The conversation moves from John’s early influences and career beginnings to the philosophy that guided him through decades of building, leading, and mentoring others. At the center of it is a simple idea: the difference between people who chip away at tasks and those who build something that lasts. Along the way, John shares lessons on leadership, culture, long-term thinking, and why reputation i...

Have you ever looked up at the stars with curiosity, or dreamt of doing something extraordinary? Colonel Robert Clyde “Bob” Springer didn’t just sit and wonder. He went out and took action — over and over again. Is he truly “The [Real] World’s Most Interesting Man” ? One thing is certain: he’s lived a case study in choosing action over drift. Marine. Combat pilot. TOP GUN Graduate. Astronaut. Two-...

In this episode of The Two Types of People , former PGA Tour pro Steve Wheatcroft joins host ⁠ Pat Sitkins ⁠ for one of the most authentic conversations yet. From being told “no” six times by Indiana University’s golf coach — and still showing up at his door — to clawing his way onto the PGA Tour, Steve’s story is one of relentless determination. Across 14 years on and off the Tour, he experienced...

There are two types of people: those who are pressing on to fulfill their purpose, and those who are pacing themselves and falling short. From FSU Basketball to building faith, family, and fitness, Ron Miller Jr. lives what it means to press on with purpose. Show Notes: In Episode 2 of The Two Types of People, author, trainer, pastor, husband, and father Ron Miller Jr. joins host Pat Sitkins to ta...

“There are two types of people: those who are humble… and those who are going to be humbled.” From the Final Four to life-altering adversity, the former UF star and SEC analyst shares what it means to rebuild with purpose. In the premiere episode of The Two Types of People, former Florida Gators standout and SEC Network analyst Patric Young joins host Pat Sitkins to unpack what it means to live wi...