Two Therapists At A Bar

In this episode, we delve into the experience of betrayal in relationships—what it feels like, why it impacts us so profoundly, and how we can heal. We explore how to process the pain and grow amidst it, whether or not the person who hurt you ever changes. Are you a therapist or clergy? Upgrade your toolkit and earn 3.5 CE hours with our $99 course on providing ⁠ethical faith-informed therapy with...

In this episode, we sit down with our friend Philip Wiygul, a lifelong outdoorsman and agricultural educator, to talk about his journey into farming and how he’s blended his love of the land with a passion for teaching. We explore the highs and lows of farm life, career reflections on purpose and resilience, and how mental health shows up in both quiet moments and busy seasons. Philip Wiygul serve...

In this episode, we finally dive deep into a topic we’ve lightly touched on before—pornography, unwanted sexual behavior, and sex addiction. We focus especially on how these aspects show up in marriages and long-term relationships. What exactly is sex addiction, and is it even real? Is porn use within a marriage ever healthy? How can partners tell the difference between occasional use, compulsive...

Curious about how cutting-edge physics relates to consciousness, spirituality, and mental health? In this episode, we nerd out with Dr. Klebert Feitosa—professor an experimental physicist at James Madison University. We break down big ideas like quantum mechanics and soft-matter physics in a way that even a 10‑year‑old can understand—and we explore how these concepts intersect with faith, consciou...

In this episode, we dig into one of the trickiest parts of work life: navigating your relationship with your boss. Whether you have a supportive supervisor or a toxic micromanager, the dynamic you have with your boss can make or break your experience. We talk about the power structures at play, how to manage up with integrity, and what strategies and mindsets can help you stay grounded. Are you a...

In this episode, we sit down with First Sergeant Matt Hand of the Virginia State Police to talk about the human side of law enforcement. Matt shares stories from his 20+ year career—from high-speed chases to moments of trauma—and opens up about the mental health toll that often goes unspoken. We discuss the myths surrounding cops and therapy, the pressures of the job, and why vulnerability might b...

In this Father’s Day episode, David interviews Dale about his journey into fatherhood. Was being a dad always part of the plan? What shaped his desire to become a father and what keeps him going now as a dad of four? Dale opens up about the lessons, struggles, and surprises he’s faced along the way, how his own story shaped his parenting. ⁠⁠⁠ Questions & Feedback Form ⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get 10% OFF your nex...

In this episode, we’re joined by Reed Richardi to explore the complex and deeply personal intersection of mental health, faith, and religion. Reed shares his own journey and how he approaches these topics as a pastor. We explore big questions like: How much of my healing is up to me—and how much is up to God? What does accountability look like when someone is mentally unwell? Can mental illness bl...

Why do we people please? In this episode, we get personal about our experiences with people pleasing, both growing up and more recently. We unpack the hidden motives behind it and why it’s not the same as kindness. We also talk about what's helped us grow beyond it, set healthier boundaries, and learn to show up more honestly in our relationships. ⁠⁠ Questions & Feedback Form ⁠⁠⁠ Get 10% O...

In this episode, we talk about the kind of grief that shatters a life—and what comes after. We’re joined by our very first guest, Gene Fought, who shares his story of unimaginable loss: the death of his daughter to suicide. Through his story, we explore what it means to grieve, whether there’s a wrong or right way to grieve, how faith and loss can coexist, and how to support others when they’re in...

NOTE: A brief section of the episode around 03:46 was lost, where we began discussing how privacy is viewed in different cultures. Thanks for your understanding—we’ll revisit it soon! In this episode, we explore the subtle but important difference between privacy and secrecy —and why one protects relationships while the other quietly destroys them. We talk about how this tension shows up in relati...

In this episode, we go deeper into the conversation that started with ADHD, this time focusing on medication. What actually counts as medication? Is it only what’s prescribed by a doctor, or is it anything we use to change how we feel, focus, or function? We explore how broad that definition really is, the staggering statistics around medication use in the U.S., and what that might say about our c...

It seems like everyone is talking about ADHD lately but does that mean everyone actually has it? In this episode, we explore the growing conversation around ADHD: Are more people being accurately diagnosed, or are we confusing normal struggles with clinical symptoms? We talk about Dale’s experience learning he had ADHD as an adult, how he manages it, and what helped most: medication, supplements,...

In this episode, we explore a tough but important question: Am I being abused, or is this just conflict? We unpack where the line is between healthy disagreement and emotional harm, whether abuse can be unintentional, and how to recognize the difference. We also ask: Are we all capable of being abusive? And how do we engage in conflict without crossing that line? Are you a therapist or clergy? Upg...

You’ve heard the promises: “I’ll change.” “This was the last time.” But nothing’s different. In this episode, we speak to those loving someone with an addiction and the addicted individual. How do you know if change is actually possible? How do you tell the difference between hope and denial? You’ll learn what to look for beyond words and what the change process really involves. If you're tire...

In this episode, we ask each other a simple question: Why do we do what we do? That sparks a deeper conversation about the heart of therapy. Is it just about fixing problems—or is there something more meaningful at play? We share our personal answers and explore whether a therapist’s personal beliefs matter, and if true objectivity is even possible. We also take on a common question: Should therap...

Who comes first in a man's life, his mother, his wife, or his daughter? In this episode, we explore this trending dilemma, the most common answers we’ve seen, and share our own takes. Using principles from family systems theory and relationship science, we dive into the dynamics behind each role, the emotional weight of the question, and why it hits so hard. 00:00 Intro 01:14 Dale's blue l...

Failure is inevitable but what do you do after it happens? In this episode, we talk about what failure really is, the different levels of failure (from minor slip-ups to life-altering moments), and whether there's actually any benefit to falling short. We also share some practical approaches for processing failure, learning from it, and moving forward. Are you a therapist or clergy? Upgrade yo...

Why is it so hard to have honest conversations with friends? In this episode, we unpack the unique dynamics of friendship that make difficult conversations feel so loaded, and why avoiding them can hurt more in the long run. We share real examples from our own lives, explore when it’s necessary to speak up, how to bring things up respectfully, and how to listen well, even when you don’t agree. Are...

Is self-care overrated or are we just doing it wrong? In this episode, we break down common myths about self-care, the ways we often sabotage our own self-care routines, and what really makes self-care effective. We also share how starting jiu-jitsu became a form of self-care for both of us, and explore what elements create a meaningful and sustainable self-care practice. If you’ve ever felt like...

In this special Q&A episode, we’re diving into your questions! We discuss online therapy vs. in-person therapy, how therapists decide when to listen vs. challenge a client, and what to do when your sense of purpose is shaken—like after losing a job. We also explore concerns around “over-therapizing,” self-diagnosis, and the fear of being labeled in therapy. Plus, we share practical ways to che...

Get 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link ⁠ and enter the promo code SODALOVE at checkout. In this episode, we explore the unique fulfillment sex provides and whether it’s a want or a need. Can we ever thrive without it? We break down the difference between lust and eros, the role of intimacy in sex, and whether sex can ever be just sex —is casual sex ever truly casual? We also discuss the cha...

Get 15% off your OLIPOP order using this link and enter the promo code SODALOVE at checkout. Is masculinity under attack, evolving, or just misunderstood? What does it mean to be a man in the 21st century? In this episode, we break down masculinity, exploring how men have embodied manhood in the past, the role of rites of passage, and why masculinity vs. femininity is a false dichotomy. We also di...

Finding the right therapist can feel overwhelming—but it’s one of the most important decisions you can make for your mental health. In this episode, two therapists break down how to choose the right therapist, why knowing your goals is crucial, and what actually makes therapy successful. We also share our own experiences searching for therapy, discuss how to tell if therapy is working, whether agr...

In this Valentine’s Day special, we’re tackling why dating feels harder than ever—and what to do about it. With apps, social media, shifting expectations and gender dynamics, modern dating is more complicated than ever before. We discuss the big trends in 2025, the reality of hypergamy (dating up in status or resources), and why so many people feel stuck. We’ll share a practical starting point to...