Jason and Eric
Two Sides of FI
Whether you are new to the financial independence / retire early (FIRE) movement, already on your FIRE journey, or have retired early, there’s something here for you. Go beyond the numbers and get the personal stories as experienced by Eric and Jason.
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Apr 12, 2026
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Episodes
We Avoided Estate Planning. Here’s Why You Can’t Afford To (Part 2) 08.05.2022 33:48
Don't make a common mistake that could cost your family dearly. If you don't have an estate plan, many essential decisions will be left to others, including the government. In this second installment in a two-part series, Eric + Jason continue their conversation about what they did to get their respective plans in place. Topics discussed in this episode include end of life decisions, powers of att...
If You Want Financial Freedom You Can’t Ignore This (Part 1) 24.04.2022 33:18
We avoided estate planning for a long time; here's why you shouldn't. Without an estate plan, you're giving over the control of what happens to all your assets to others. In part one of this two-part series, Eric + Jason talk about what they did to - finally - get their respective plans in place. Topics discussed in this episode include the elements of estate planning, why people delay + how to ge...
Making The Worst Financial Mistake I’ve Ever Made? 14.04.2022 13:18
Am I leaving my financial advisors after seven years? Is that foolish? Parting ways with a trusted financial advisor is a difficult and impactful decision. In our last episode, Jason talked with Eric about his thoughts to end his longterm relationship with his financial planners and take the reins himself. In this video, we learn the outcome of that conversation and talk about what their decision...
Breaking Up With My Financial Advisor? 10.04.2022 38:11
Did you know that financial advisor fees can eat up HALF of your portfolio's value over time? While happy with the good support and great relationship he had with them, Jason was thinking about leaving his financial planners late last year. In this episode, we capture a conversation Eric + Jason had on this topic, as they discussed the merits and downsides of paying assets under management (AUM) f...
Financial Lessons We’re Passing On (Part 2) 27.03.2022 31:02
Kids are incredibly impressionable and as parents, we have a responsibility to educate them in all ways, including in financial matters. In this second installment of a two part series, we continue our discussion on a topic that's been requested many times by viewers: all things relating to kids. Concepts discussed in this episode include saving for college and the roles of parents vs children in...
Our FIRE Portfolios Are Down 20%, What Now? 13.03.2022 51:13
How has the recent market downturn changed our plans? Jason + Eric candidly discuss their pre- and post-FI moods in this volatile time. Learn what they're doing and thinking about right now as Jason nears the two-year post-FI mark and Eric contemplates pushing his 2024 FI date back. show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/crash
Teaching Our Teens About FI and Money (Part 1) 27.02.2022 26:01
Having children comes along with many necessary expenses, but also provides a key opportunity to provide them with a solid financial education. In part one of a two part series, we tackle a topic that's been requested many times by viewers: all things relating to kids. Topics discussed in this episode include our own financial upbringing, early attempts to teach our kids about saving + investing,...
Buying Bonds. Still Not Convinced I’m Doing the Right Thing! (Part 2) 13.02.2022 34:27
I reallocated my investment portfolio, sold out of my 100% equity position and I'm not happy about it. Part two of a two-part series, you'll learn why and how I'm making peace with it. Ensuring that your investment portfolio can fund your lifestyle for the duration of your lifespan is essential to success in FIRE. One of the most impactful elements of that is how your portfolio is constructed, or...
FI-nancial Decisions - Transitioning to FI with Laura + Eric [Bonus Episode] 06.02.2022 27:19
Making big decisions like reallocating your investment portfolio can be pretty stressful. They're also impactful, so alignment with your partner or spouse on them is essential. In this bonus episode, get a behind the scenes look at how Eric + Laura navigated their decision to add bonds to their FIRE portfolio. Topics discussed include how they determined the stocks / bonds mix, their research proc...
I Rebalanced My FI/RE Portfolio and I Hate It! (Part 1) 31.01.2022 29:59
I reallocated my investment portfolio, sold out of my 100% equity position and I'm not happy about it. In this two-part episode, you'll learn why and how I'm making peace with it. Ensuring that your investment portfolio can fund your lifestyle for the duration of your lifespan is essential to success in FIRE. One of the most impactful elements of that is how your portfolio is constructed, or your...
Retirement Is Nothing Like I Thought It Would Be 16.01.2022 57:03
We all daydream about what retirement will be like, but will reality live up to expectations? In this episode, Eric and Jason are joined by Fritz Gilbert, who blogs at The Retirement Manifesto ( https://theretirementmanifesto.com ). Now nearly four years after retiring early, Fritz brings valuable experience + perspectives to this question. Our discussion goes well beyond the numbers, covering top...
Financial Independence, Retire Early...Go Back to Work? 03.01.2022 32:04
Discussing the concerns, worries, and interests occupying our thoughts right now. A temporal look from their respective sides of FI, Eric and Jason discuss a new job prospect, while Eric is a little too focused on saving to achieve FI. They probe ideas about how "vacation time" is different post-RE, as well as their current favorite podcasts and books.
Comparing our FIRE Portfolios + Asset Allocations (Part 2) 19.12.2021 42:11
Choosing how to divide your assets among stocks, bonds, and other investment vehicles is a good first step, but asset allocation also impacts your tax rate, portfolio performance, and long-term ease of maintaining it all. In part two, Eric and Jason dig further into their own portfolios from their respective sides of FI and discuss the role of bonds, risk, tools you can use to assess your portfoli...
Getting Your FIRE Asset Allocation Right. Here‘s Ours (Part 1) 12.12.2021 41:45
What is the best way to divide up your investments among stocks, bonds, and other vehicles? Asset allocation is an essential yet confusing topic. That said, it is an area of critical importance when thinking about early retirement. This is because decisions made about asset allocation can have huge implications on portfolio performance, taxation, and ease of maintenance. Join us for this first epi...
Have Enough to Retire (Early)? 10 Steps to Make Sure 28.11.2021 1:00:08
Will you have enough to money to retire (early or otherwise)? Achieving financial independence requires many key elements to be in place and special consideration if you plan to retire early. You need a plan: what will you do? What will you spend? Where will it come from? In this episode, Eric and Jason discuss a recent blog post by Fritz @ The Retirement Manifesto where he discusses the "10 Steps...
Healthcare is my Second Highest Cost in Early Retirement 15.11.2021 58:54
Health insurance may not be top of mind in early retirement when you're young and healthy, but it should be. In the US, healthcare costs are a significant line item in our budget. To help us decode what you need to know, we've invited a retirement benefits expert to answer our questions through the lens of those seeking financial independence and early retirement. To protect against astronomical e...
A CoastFI Path to Financial Security: An Interview with Catherine 09.11.2021 46:50
In today's episode we are joined by a guest, who we met in a FIRE Discord server, and wanted to share her story. Our conversation is a great example of the diverse reasons why people choose to seek financial independence. As you’ll discover, family health issues set then 23-year old Catherine on her FI path, largely as a means to ensure her financial security should she encounter issues of her ow...
How We Travel: Pre + Post Financial Independence 31.10.2021 36:52
A seven day vacation or 5 weeks of travel - which would you prefer? When you're working towards financial independence, vacations are a time to set aside work and everyday chores. But they're constrained by things you don't often control: accrued vacation time, work and school schedules, business obligations, and holidays, to name a few. In this episode, Eric and Jason compare notes from their two...
Retired Early and I Hated It: How NOT to FIRE, Part 2 (Post-FI/RE) 17.10.2021 26:42
Imagine hitting your FI number, retiring early, and discovering you hate it? In this episode we discuss four examples of such an outcome: from quitting the perfect job and regretting it, to feelings of depression and lack of purpose. Some are unable to find motivation without financial incentives, while others realize they haven't budgeted enough to do things they enjoy in life. This is part 2 of...
How NOT to FIRE - Part 1 (Pre-FI/RE) 04.10.2021 36:12
On the path to financial independence, there are ample opportunities for mistakes and missteps. In today's episode, we review stories from people who shared their FIRE experiences online in the hopes of educating others. Here we review five of these tales: incurring tragic losses due to trying to beat the market, losing 75% of your portfolio value due to sector investing, regretting aggressively s...
Answering Your Financial Independence Questions 20.09.2021 36:24
You asked, we answered. Bringing the Two Sides of FI together to discuss changing withdrawal rates, Jason and Eric's own FI numbers, redefining identity in early retirement, rental real estate, and more. Want your question featured on an upcoming show? Leave us a comment on YouTube - https://youtube.com/c/TwoSidesOfFI or reach out on our contact page - https://twosidesoffi.com/
What I Learned in My First Year of ”Early Retirement” 07.09.2021 30:05
Retiring at 47 is early by any definition. In this episode, Jason reflects on his first year in early retirement. Not everything went smoothly as you might expect. Learn what's changed, what's been better, what's worse, and - importantly - has it lived up to his expectations? If you're excited to reach this milestone but still harbor some reservations about crossing into "retirement", Jason offers...
Discussing FIRE with our Spouses: 2 x Two Sides of FI (Part 2) 23.08.2021 31:34
Talking about FIRE with your partner involves so much more than finances: from friend groups and career aspirations, to personal goals and family dynamics. In part two, Eric + Jason continue the conversation with their spouses, Laura + Lorri, discussing how they share financial responsibilities, the importance of finding friend networks, talking to their children about FIRE, and their hopes for th...
Talking with our Spouses About FIRE: 2 x Two Sides of FI (Part 1) 09.08.2021 30:03
Talking with a spouse or partner about FIRE isn't always easy. In this episode, Eric + Jason bring their wives, Laura + Lorri, into the conversation to share their personal experiences. In part 1 of our two-part conversation, they talk about getting onboard with FIRE, financial topics including budgeting and setting the FI number, as well as the emotional aspects of choosing the FIRE path. For sho...
Retiring Early - So Why Am I Worried? 26.07.2021 38:04
Retiring early is a dream for many but the decision to leave the workplace early can impact us in ways we may not have predicted. In this episode, we discuss the first year of Jason's early retirement and Eric shares his own concerns as he approaches FI. For many, work provides a sense of purpose and identity, as well as validation, utility, not to mention financial security. What happens when tha...
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