Jason and Eric
Two Sides of FI
Whether you are new to the financial independence / retire early (FIRE) movement, already on your FIRE journey, or have retired early, there’s something here for you. Go beyond the numbers and get the personal stories as experienced by Eric and Jason.
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Apr 12, 2026
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Episodes
Retiring With $2M: Here’s How We’d Spend It 09.04.2023 46:50
Love it or hate it, budgeting is an essential part of financial success. In this episode, Eric and Jason share their own financial details using a simple, model budget and offer tips for making budgeting a less daunting task. See the link below for the show notes, which includes the full details of our budgets. Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/fire-budget
Am I Failing at Early Retirement? 26.03.2023 46:37
Has your shrinking retirement portfolio left you considering part-time work to ease your anxiety? Inspired by a blog post from Go Curry Cracker, we discuss BaristaFIRE, time freedom, what it means to be "unemployable", and what work we might consider post-retirement. Be sure to see the links below for the show notes and to the blog post referenced in the video. Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.c...
Having Trouble Trusting the Math in Early Retirement? 12.03.2023 45:27
How much money can you safely spend in retirement? In part two of this series on safe withdrawal rates, we discuss the #1 tool we've found to help you answer that question. Topics covered include the SWR Toolbox, our thoughts on Social Security, the challenges of spending in retirement, and how to get comfortable with increasing your withdrawal rate. Be sure to see the links below for the show not...
Never Run Out of Money in Retirement - Use This Free FIRE Calculator! 26.02.2023 25:28
Do you want to avoid the biggest retirement risk? This simple to use tool will let you model your safe withdrawal rate and help ensure you don't run out of money. In this walkthrough video, we teach you how to use this powerful, flexible, and FREE tool created by Karsten Jeske. Using the SWR Toolbox, you can ensure that you have a personalized plan that works with your own financial situation. Sh...
What’s Wrong with This Popular Retirement Strategy? 12.02.2023 1:09:00
Do you worry about running out of money in retirement? How do you draw down your assets without tanking your portfolio? Eric + Jason talk with FIRE bloggers Karsten Jeske and Fritz Gilbert about the bucket strategy. Is it a reasonable withdrawal plan or nothing more than a gimmick? They discuss alternative approaches, how to generate a retirement paycheck, and the role of cash. Whether you're inte...
My Next Phase of Early Retirement Won’t Include This… 29.01.2023 34:51
Year two in early retirement was very different for Jason than year one. It's common that the honeymoon stage of retirement is followed by disappointment and a search for meaning. In this episode, Jason and Eric discuss a recent project Jason abandoned and what stage of retirement they think he's in. You'll hear his approach to guarding his free time, what Eric fears most about retiring early, and...
My FIRE Budget Didn’t Account for This 15.01.2023 45:40
Are you worried about neglecting to budget for key expenses in early retirement? Even if you put good effort into creating your FIRE budget, it's easy to miss some very important items. In this episode, Jason and Eric discuss these commonly forgotten or underestimated expenses, including healthcare costs, taxes, dealing with inflation, and more. Check out the link below for the show notes, includi...
Finding My Way in Early Retirement: A 30 Month Check-In 04.01.2023 44:48
What is early retirement really like? In this episode, Eric checks in with Jason two and a half years after he left his career behind. They discuss his recent financial moves, the impact of inflation, how Jason spends his time, and what's truly important to him. Check out the link below for the show notes, including all the content we referenced in this episode. Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.co...
Our Most Impactful Tools and Purchases Under $250 (Part 2) 21.12.2022 30:59
How big of an impact can a single purchase under $250 make on your life? In part two of this series, Eric and Jason talk about some of the best things they've bought in recent years. Topics discussed include travel, outdoor gear, concert tips, kitchen aids, and more. Be sure to see the link below for the show notes, which includes info on all the items we discussed in the epispode, as well as thos...
Budget-Friendly Finds: Our Favorite Tools and Hacks Under $50 (Part 1) 18.12.2022 35:19
Can low cost items - or even free things - truly impact your quality of life positively? In this episode, Eric and Jason talk about some of their favorite purchases under $50, as well as some tools and life hacks that have done just that. Topics discussed in part one of this series include apps, books, games, outdoors essentials, and organizational tools. Be sure to see the link below for the show...
Tax Strategies on FIRE: Financial Independence / Retire Early 04.12.2022 44:37
Do you worry about taxes and how they impact your financial goals? Whether you're on a FIRE path or retiring traditionally, there are many critical tax topics to consider. In this episode, Jason talks with financial planner and CPA Sean Mullaney, creator of The FI Tax Guy blog. We talk about common tax misunderstandings, the power of solo 401(k) accounts, Roth conversions, and tax loss harvesting....
You Asked, We Answered. FIRE Q&A 20.11.2022 1:06:43
Answering your financial independence, retire early (FIRE) questions, including the one we're asked most often. This special Ask Us Anything format commemorates the 50th episode of Two Sides of FI. THANK YOU to all who submitted questions and for your continued support of the show! Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/ep50
My Plan to Retire Early is ON HOLD 06.11.2022 43:01
The bear market has forced many to revise their FI goals and retirement plans. In this episode, Eric talks with Jason about pushing back his FI date, options he's considering, whether BaristaFIRE could be the answer, the possibility of redefining work, and advice for others in a similar position. See the link below for the show notes. Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/delayed
Reacting to YOUR Ideas for Holding Cash 23.10.2022 45:19
Are you worried about holding cash in this high inflation environment? In a recent video, we talked about the role of cash pre- and post-retirement. In this episode, Eric + Jason review and react to YOUR ideas that you shared with us. Topics covered include bond ladders, high yield savings, real estate, gold and other cash alternatives, and emergency funds. Check out the link below for the show no...
Is This a Part of Your FIRE Plan? 09.10.2022 43:13
Chasing short term market conditions adds a lot of risk to reaching your long term investing goals. An investment policy statement (IPS) can help ensure you stick to your strategy, and avoid market timing and other investing pitfalls. In this episode, Eric talks with Jason about his IPS, and why he finds it such a useful tool. Topics covered include defining portfolio makeup + objectives, the mech...
Will You Run Out of Money or Time? FI Advice From a Hospice Doctor 25.09.2022 46:48
What can conversations with the dying teach us about the secret to financial independence? In this episode, Eric + Jason are joined by Jordan "Doc G" Grumet, a hospice doctor, podcaster, blogger, and author. Topics discussed include the mirage of wealth, living meaningfully, and Jordan's experiences eight years post-FI. Irrespective of your own retirement journey, you won't want to miss our conver...
FIRE and Holding Cash - What We’re Doing 11.09.2022 49:44
How much cash in your portfolio is enough - or too much? In this episode, Eric + Jason discuss the idea of holding cash allocations pre- and post-retirement. Topics covered include emergency funds, the temptation to invest in a down market, bonds, and building cash reserves. Join us as we discuss this essential retirement topic. Check out the link below for the show notes, including all the conten...
Do I Wish I’d Worked One More Year? 28.08.2022 25:38
With all of the volatility in the market, should you delay retirement by a year? A viewer asked Jason if he would feel more secure had he worked another year or two before retiring early. In today's episode, Eric + Jason discuss that question and the merits of considering "one more year". Join us as we discuss this idea and the reasons you might consider that option, what Jason would have missed o...
How I Plan to Retire Early on a $50K Salary 14.08.2022 35:26
Can you retire early without a high-paying tech industry salary? In this episode, we talk with Stephen about how he plans to do just that. At 30 years old, he's earning $50k as a higher education administrator, yet he plans to retire with at least a million dollars by his early 50s. How will he do that? Join us as we discuss his plans, the role of financial discipline, why he doesn't feel he's ove...
Karsten Spoke, We Listened. Here’s What We Learned. 31.07.2022 38:56
We're making changes. Here's what we learned and how our FIRE strategies are changing after talking to "Big ERN" Karsten Jeske, an economist, CFA, and safe withdrawal rate expert. In this episode, we review our take-homes from that conversation, and react to comments and feedback we received about the episode. If you missed the original episode, be sure to listen to Episode 40 first. Show notes: h...
Don’t Let the Cost of Healthcare Break Your Early Retirement Plan 16.07.2022 47:15
Calculating the cost of health insurance is a complicated and stressful exercise when you're retiring early. Hear Jason's experience with his first full year using the California ACA Exchange and learn how Eric arrived at his budget of $350K, his worst case scenario. We discuss how to choose a plan, ACA subsidies, differences by state, and other alternative options. If you missed our earlier healt...
What the FIRE Community Gets Wrong - Talking with Karsten Jeske 03.07.2022 1:04:04
What would you do if you ran out of money in retirement? It's hard to imagine a scarier outcome, and yet many on the FIRE path may be at risk for this if they get their portfolio withdrawal rate wrong. In this episode, Eric + Jason talk with Karsten Jeske, the creator of the Early Retirement Now blog . Known by many as "Big ERN", he is an economist who is well known to the FIRE community for his e...
We Each Hired a Flat Fee Financial Advisor. Was it Worth It? 19.06.2022 1:07:58
Here's what we learned by hiring a financial advisor for a fixed fee of $1,000. Rather than pay a costly ongoing assets under management (AUM) fee, we wanted to test out this increasingly popular fee-for-service advisement model. Eric and Jason discuss each hired the same fee-only, advice-only advisor for $1,000 to evaluate their portfolios and answer a variety of key questions. They share how the...
Stock Market on FIRE: What We’re Doing in a Downturn 05.06.2022 56:11
You're on a FIRE path and the markets keep falling - what do you do? In this episode, Jason + Eric revisit the topic of market downturn and candidly discuss their pre- and post-FI moods in this turbulent time. Join us to learn what they're doing and thinking about right now as Jason nears the two-year post-FI mark and Eric contemplates pushing his 2024 FI date back. Topics discussed include rebala...
My New Life: Two Years After Early Retirement 22.05.2022 37:18
Wondering what a day in the life in early retirement is like? Eric travels to California to shadow Jason and find out what his FIRE life is like nearly two years into early retirement. We learn how Jason fills his days, hear his concerns pre- and post-FI, discuss the merits of part-time "fun" jobs, and the reality of finances. Show notes: https://twosidesoffi.com/tryingonFI
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