Zack and Josie

Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Society EN ↓ 72 episodes

Two Plus Two is a space for the conversations most couples aren’t having… but probably should be. Zack and Josie explore connection, intimacy, and relationships through honest, vulnerable discussions. Through their own reflections and conversations with their guests, they inspire listeners to strengthen their relationships and discover new perspectives on communication, trust, and fulfillment—embracing the idea that deeper connection comes from the conversations most people avoid.

Author

Zack and Josie

Category

Society

Podcast website

twoplustwopodcast.com

Latest episode

Jul 1, 2026

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Episodes

Ep 72: Lifestyle Parties: Chemistry, Connection and Rejection 01.07.2026

Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a candid conversation about lifestyle parties, attraction, connection, and the many factors that shape our experiences. The couples explore their different approaches to the lifestyle and how they balance socializing, friendships, sexual chemistry, and play experiences. They discuss the excitement that comes with meeting someone new, the thrill of t...

Ep 71: House Party Vibes: Interest, Intentions & Invitations 17.06.2026

Brad and Jenni return to join Zack and Josie for a candid conversation about a recent lifestyle party they all attended. What started as a discussion about the event quickly evolved into a deeper look at how different couples navigate attraction, communicate interest, and approach new connections. The couples compare their personal styles, discussing everything from subtle signals and direct commu...

Ep 70: From Playboy to Playtime: Ed and Sarah’s Accidental Lifestyle Journey 03.06.2026

Zack and Josie welcome first-time guests Ed and Sarah to the podcast for a fun and unexpectedly relatable lifestyle origin story. What began as a promotional opportunity for Sarah—a former Playboy model—quickly turned into something they never saw coming when they unknowingly arrived at a lifestyle resort. After noticing some unusual interactions between guests, a kind older woman finally pulled t...

Ep 69: Erotica: A Gateway Drug to Sexual Liberation 20.05.2026

Zack and Josie welcome first-time guests Brad and Jenni for a candid and engaging conversation about how their journey into the lifestyle began. What started as Jenni’s private enjoyment of erotica and audiobooks quietly transformed their connection—sparking a level of intimacy Brad couldn’t quite explain until curiosity led him to ask questions. From there, the couple began listening together, ev...

Ep 68: Fantasies: Compersion, Connection, and the Power of Watching 06.05.2026

Drew and Suzie are back for a wide-ranging conversation with Zack and Josie about fantasies—where they come from, how they evolve, and why they don’t always follow logic. Drawing from her experience as an erotica author, Suzie shares how deeply she engages with both her own fantasies and those of others, emphasizing that the most powerful turn-ons often center around connection, comfort, and unden...

Ep 67: New vs. Repeat Partners: Novelty or Proven Chemistry 22.04.2026

Zack and Josie are back with Drew and Suzie—and this time, the conversation dives into the dynamics of new vs. repeat play . They kick things off with a bold question: what’s the perfect size? Josie and Suzie quickly find themselves in agreement—and their reasoning sets the tone for a fun, unfiltered conversation. From there, the conversation turns to what really drives desire. Zack says all he ne...

Ep 66: Bliss Sexy Sampler Cruise: Expectations, Experiences & Everything In Between 08.04.2026

Zack and Josie are joined once again by Drew and Suzie as they unpack their first Bliss Cruise experience—while also explaining why they’ve come to jokingly refer to their Virgin Voyages trips as “Swinger Light.” From their first Bliss sailing—dubbed The Sexy Sampler Cruise —to comparing the overall vibe, they dive into the differences between the two cruise experiences. They break down everything...

Ep 65: Pre-Bliss Adventures: Trapeze, the Meet ‘n Greet, and Organic Connections 25.03.2026

Zack and Josie kick off a new chapter of Two Plus Two with a subtle shift in format before welcoming back fan-favorite guest co-hosts Drew and Suzie (formerly known as Luke and Rickie from Episode 41). Together, they dive into their pre–Bliss Cruise adventures in Fort Lauderdale—starting with their first visit to Trapeze and the high-energy hotel meet ‘n greet. From the moment they walk in, they b...

Ep 64: Lifestyle Friend Groups: Inclusive or Exclusive 11.03.2026

In this episode, the Two Plus Two crew dives into a topic that can quietly shape the lifestyle experience: close friend groups and the perception of cliques. They start by unpacking what a “clique” really is. Is it intentional exclusivity? Or is it simply comfort, chemistry, and shared history that naturally draw certain people together? The conversation explores whether people inside these tight-...

Ep 63: Successful Play Sessions: Expectations, Communication, and Connection 04.03.2026

In this episode, Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into what a “successful” play experience really means — and why that definition looks different for each of them. They unpack what matters most in play sessions, the changes they’re intentionally making to increase their enjoyment of the lifestyle, and whether build-up enhances the experience or creates unrealistic expectations — or if there’s...

Ep 62: Sexy Swinger Confessions: Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played Round 3 25.02.2026

Round Three is officially underway — and the confessions are bolder, kinkier, and even more revealing than before. In this latest installment of Sexy Swinger Confessions: Yay, Nay, May, or Oh, I’ve Played , the Two Plus Two crew jumps back into the game that always sparks laughter, honesty, and a few jaw-dropping moments. From golden showers and nipple clamps to role-playing throwbacks and risky p...

Ep 61: Looping Back: Conversations That Hit a Nerve — And Why 18.02.2026

This isn’t a replay of past episodes—it’s a deeper look at the conversations that didn’t end when the recording stopped. After hearing how certain topics landed with listeners, the crew reflects on what stirred discomfort, curiosity, and strong reactions—and why those responses matter. Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany unpack listener feedback ranging from opinions about Brad’s penis and uncut men (...

Ep 60: Taking a Break: Pressing Pause on the Lifestyle 11.02.2026

Sometimes the healthiest move a couple can make in the lifestyle is to step back. In this episode, the Two Plus Two crew open up about taking breaks—why they happen, how they feel, and what they can reveal about a relationship. Each host shares personal and vulnerable reasons they’ve needed to pause, from forced breaks due to health concerns to intentional step-backs caused by disconnection, burno...

Ep 59: Beyond the Birds and the Bees: Talking to Your Kids About the Lifestyle 04.02.2026

A listener’s message sparks one of the most emotionally loaded conversations we’ve ever had as lifestyle parents. After receiving a text from her adult daughter that read, “I know about you and dad’s extracurricular activities,” we’re forced to confront a question many couples quietly avoid: What happens when your kids know… or might know… about your life? We unpack the initial wave of fear, embar...

Ep 58: Women’s Health in Swinging: Taking Care of Your Kitty 28.01.2026

Callie is back—returning guest from our STD episode—for a much-needed deep dive into women’s health in the lifestyle. Joined by Zack, Josie, and Brittany, this conversation tackles the realities many women face but rarely hear clearly explained, especially in non-monogamous spaces. We start by unpacking how women are often forced to crowdsource health advice from friends instead of providers, and...

Ep 57: Uncut and Unfiltered: Sensitivity, Pleasure, and Perception 21.01.2026

In this candid — and hilariously honest — conversation, all four hosts tackle a topic that rarely gets talked about openly: uncircumcised penises. Brad opens up about growing up uncut in a world where it wasn’t common, including the insecurity, teasing, and the unforgettable childhood nickname “Snuffleupagus.” We explore real-world differences between circumcised and uncircumcised penises — sensit...

Ep 56: Exclusivity with Another Couple: Love, Boundaries, and Commitment 14.01.2026

In this episode, Zack and Josie sit down with Roger and Jessica, a lifestyle couple whose journey has taken an unexpected turn — into an exclusive, emotionally connected relationship with another couple. After two years in the lifestyle, what began as group dates evolved into alternating date nights, overnight visits, out-of-state trips, and eventually a shared commitment they now describe as havi...

Ep 55: Midlife in the Lifestyle: Freedom, Urgency, and Identity 07.01.2026

As we get older, our bodies, our priorities, and even the way we experience the lifestyle begin to shift. In this episode, all four hosts are back at the table to talk honestly about aging, self-image, and how time changes our perspective on play, connection, and identity. Brad and Josie — both in their 50s — share what it feels like to realize they’re past the halfway point in life, while Brittan...

Ep 54: Behind the Mic 2025: Unfiltered, Uncensored, Unzipped 31.12.2025

To celebrate our first full year of Two Plus Two, we’re pulling back the curtain and sharing some of our favorite private conversations, outrageous stories, and unforgettable play moments. In this milestone episode, Zack and Josie revisit a fun, sexy, weird, and wonderfully awkward party encounter — and yes, they spill all the dirty details. Your Two Plus Two crew also has some fun shaking up the...

Ep 53: To Play or Not to Play: When and How to Shift Out of Neutral 24.12.2025

Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sit down to tackle a question nearly every lifestyle couple has wrestled with: how many dates does it really take to get to a “yes”? They talk through what it’s like meeting a couple for the first time—those moments when the chemistry is instant and the energy exchange makes the decision easy, and the more complicated scenarios where one partner is a clear “yes” whi...

Ep 52: Bliss Cruise Control: Prepping for a Sexy Week at Sea 17.12.2025

Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back and gearing up for one of the biggest lifestyle trips of the year: the upcoming Bliss Cruise on Radiance of the Seas this February. From liberation and sexploration to planning, packing, and prepping, this episode dives into everything we’re excited about (and a few things we’re bracing for). We talk about the tighter February timeline, Zack’s ongoing love–...

Ep 51: Highs and Lows of Swinging: Comparisons, Expectations, and Evolution 10.12.2025

Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back together for a candid and relatable conversation about something nearly every lifestyle couple experiences: the natural ebb and flow of connection, opportunity, and energy in the lifestyle. Some seasons feel packed with parties, meetups, new couples, and constant social obligations. Other times, it seems no one is available, nothing’s happening, and you’re...

Ep 50: Not Just the Bull: A Single Male’s Perspective on Connection and Complexity 03.12.2025

In this episode, hosts Zack, Josie, and Brad sit down with Ferdinand the bull, to explore the real, often-unspoken complexities of being a single male navigating ENM spaces. Ferdinand shares how he first entered the lifestyle at the encouragement of his then-wife, who never chose to participate herself. Now eight years, a divorce, and countless connections later, he finds himself at a crossroads:...

Ep 49: The Lifestyle Flake Factor: Ghosting, Excuses, and Awkward Truths 26.11.2025

In this week’s episode, hosts Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into one of the most universally frustrating parts of the lifestyle: communication… or the lack of it. From last-minute confirmations that never come to couples who keep others dangling “just in case,” the crew unpacks the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways poor communication can waste time, strain friendships, and complicate connecti...

Ep 48: STIs and the Swinger Lifestyle – Facts, Testing, and Trust 19.11.2025

This week, Zack, Josie, and Brad sit down with Callie — a Physician Assistant who works in the ER and has seen it all — to talk about one of the most important topics in the swinger lifestyle: sexual health. Callie breaks down what everyone in the lifestyle should know about STI prevention, testing, and risk management. She explains how your risk isn’t just about your behavior, but also the behavi...

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