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Brilliant inventions, fresh product designs, iconic brand names and artistic creativity are not only the building blocks of successful business - they deliver a better world for us all. But these valuable forms of intellectual property must be protected in order to flourish. We are the Chartered Institute of Patent Attorneys - the UK's largest intellectual property organisation. Our hosts Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts chat with entrepreneurs, creatives, patent attorneys and the occasional judge about how patents, trade marks, designs and copyright can improve our lives and solve problems for h...
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Episodes
Toy Story & Pixar: The IP Story 09.07.2026 56:29
Send us Fan Mail Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts speak to Rob Stumbles and Pete Salder from Reddie & Grose about how Pixar evolved from a struggling computer graphics start-up into the studio behind Toy Story. They explore the patents, licensing deals, Steve Jobs' investment, and ground-breaking technology that kept the company alive long enough to change animation forever.
Retirement Identity Reset 12.06.2026 48:52
Send us Fan Mail Retirement looks simple on paper until you realize you’re not just leaving a job, you’re leaving an identity. Lee and Gwilym sit down with Rob Williams, a former partner and co-head of IP at Bird and Bird who retired at 56 and retrained as a retirement coach, to talk about what actually makes the transition hard for high-performing professionals in intellectual property, law, and...
Behind the Headlines: James Nurton on IP Journalism 04.06.2026 33:04
Send us Fan Mail Recorded at INTA, this episode sees Lee Davies and Gwilym Roberts sit down with veteran IP journalist James Nurton to explore the evolution of intellectual property reporting over the past three decades. From the transition from print publications to digital-first media, James shares insights into the challenges of breaking news in the IP sector, the growing importance of analysis...
How LOT Network is tackling Patent Risk: Insights from Ken Seddon 27.05.2026 30:43
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, we speak with Ken Seddon, CEO of LOT Network, about the increasing influence of non-practising entities (NPEs) and the growing role they play in patent litigation through the acquisition and assertion of patents. The discussion explores LOT Network’s “herd immunity” model, under which member companies automatically receive a licence if patents are transferred to a...
The Future of Global Patent Litigation 22.05.2026 31:17
Send us Fan Mail “Courts competing” might sound odd, but it can lead to what clients actually crave: faster and more predictable decisions. Joining Lee and Gwilym for this episode, recorded at INTA 2026, in London, are Tammy Terry , a Texas-based patent litigator, and Daniel Chew , a UK and European patent attorney and Chair of our International Liaison Committee. They consider how different forum...
Protecting IP Across Borders: Insights 21.05.2026 40:04
Send us Fan Mail Recorded at INTA, this latest episode explores the challenges businesses face when protecting and enforcing intellectual property rights overseas, and the practical steps organisations can take to strengthen their international IP strategy. Kayleigh Nauman, Adin Samson, and Samuel Stone discuss the risks businesses can encounter when expanding internationally, from trademark dispu...
Inside IP Leadership with INTA President Deborah Hampton 07.05.2026 29:51
Send us Fan Mail This episode features Deborah A. Hampton in conversation with Gwilym Roberts and Lee Davies, exploring the realities of modern trade mark practice, leadership, and career development within intellectual property. Deborah reflects on her journey from working as a receptionist in a paralegal department to becoming a global brand enforcement leader and the President of INTA. She disc...
World IP Day: IP in sports innovation 23.04.2026 42:01
Send us Fan Mail To mark World IP Day’s sports theme, we explore how intellectual property quietly shapes the world of winter sport, from performance and safety to sponsorship and visibility. Drawing on stories from the Olympics and beyond, we unpack how patents, trade secrets, and open standards influence everything from the equipment athletes use to the way competitions are run and experienced b...
Reviewing Patent Attorney Training 02.04.2026 50:26
Send us Fan Mail The rules of qualification aren’t being rewritten overnight, but the questions are getting sharper. We sit down with Debbie Slater, Chair of CIPA’s Education Committee, to unpack the IPReg Education Review and what it could mean for anyone training as a UK patent attorney or trademark attorney over the next few years. The focus is forward-looking: what skills, knowledge, and profe...
When Innovation Meets The Courtroom, with Laura Whiting and Arty Rajendra 12.03.2026 49:25
Send us Fan Mail Lee and Gwilym are joined on the podcast by Laura Whiting from Freshfields and Arty Rajendra from Osborne Clarke. Ever wonder who decides the price of your medicine, the terms behind your 5G connection, or why your favorite streaming platform keeps changing codecs? We sit down with two leading IP litigators to pull back the curtain on the high-stakes world where innovation meets t...
A Patent Pioneer On Barriers, Breakthroughs, And The Next Wave Of AI - Virginia Driver 05.03.2026 35:46
Send us Fan Mail Virginia Driver recounts entering a profession that once enforced skirts and skepticism, then earning credibility across computing, telecoms, and the smartphone wars, where old devices became courtroom gold. That history matters: it shaped her insistence that AI must be auditable and accurate, not just fast. We unpack the real sweet spot for AI in patents—deep analysis across thou...
Inside The EPO’s AI Push With Angel Aledo Lopez 25.02.2026 45:47
Send us Fan Mail What happens when the European Patent Office’s CTO and COO says the hardest part of technology isn’t the code, it’s the culture? Lee and Gwilym sit down with Angel Aledo Lopez to unpack how AI is changing the way patents are examined, filed, and managed, and why human judgment still anchors the system.
How Innovation Moves From Elite Sport To Your Gear At Home 11.02.2026 45:57
Send us Fan Mail A squash ball to the ear is a painful reminder that sport isn’t just competition, it’s design, data, and decisions that protect and perform. From that opening jolt, we dive into the fast-moving world of sports technology with guests Dave Holt and Stephen Moore of Potter Clarkson, exploring how innovation is built, protected, and brought to life for pros and everyday athletes alike...
Inside IPReg’s Education Review And What It Means 29.01.2026 45:27
Send us Fan Mail What should a newly qualified patent or trademark attorney be able to do on day one, and how should we train for a world shaped by AI, shifting client needs, and the public interest? We sit down with IPREG’s education review lead, Sally Gosling, joined by Katie Flett, to unpack the biggest rethink of qualification in years. From defining core capabilities to asking who even finds...
From Industry To Patent Office Director with Maja Schmitt 09.01.2026 39:54
Send us Fan Mail A chemist hears a patent attorney speak and sees a future. Years later, that same attorney is directing a national patent office and helping rewrite how innovation gets protected. This conversation with Maja Schmitt travels from labs and in‑house roles to China and The Hague, and lands on a bold policy move: the Netherlands is returning to examined national patents after years of...
Christmas Bants, Rants, and Reflections 22.12.2025 24:03
Send us Fan Mail We celebrate five years of IP conversations with a festive look back at the moments that shaped the show. From lockdown origins to Earthshot wins and live sessions at INTA, we share what we learned from judges, founders, and the quirks that make IP human. • Launch during lockdown and early interviews with sole practitioners and Tim Moss - link to episode here. • Judges’ perspectiv...
Inside The EPO with Heli Pihlajamaa: Paperless Plans, Unitary Patent, And How Rules Get Made 17.12.2025 41:00
Send us Fan Mail Ever wondered who actually turns evolving case law and global agreements into the rules you use every day? We sit down with Heli Pihlajamaa, Principal Director of Patent Law and Procedures at the EPO, for a candid tour of how European patent law is shaped, tested, and delivered at scale. From examiner guidance to implementing regulations and user consultation, Heli opens the black...
Mental Health Training for Managers 10.12.2025 47:09
Send us Fan Mail Mental health training for line managers represents the most valuable investment an organization can make in supporting workplace wellbeing. This enlightening discussion brings together experts from Jonathan's Voice charity and intellectual property professionals to explore why this training matters and how it creates lasting impact. The conversation reveals compelling eviden...
Breaking Barriers in Tech: Dr Anne-Marie Imafidon's Journey 02.12.2025 41:29
Send us Fan Mail Dr Anne-Marie Imafidon lights up our podcast with her remarkable journey from child math prodigy to founder of STEMETTES, an organization transforming how young women engage with science and technology. With disarming candor, she shares the pivotal moment at a 2012 tech conference where she realized she belonged to a "shrinking minority" as a woman in tech, a revelation...
How The New EQE Changes Training, Exams, And Exemptions 17.11.2025 47:06
Send us Fan Mail Want a clear roadmap to the new EQE without the confusion or the myths? We sat down with the people who helped design it to unpack the why, the what, and the how, so you can plan your path with confidence. Lee and Gwilym unpack with Chris Mercer, Julia Gwilt and Debbie Slater the new EQE structure with the leaders who shaped it, explain why the change was needed, and map the stag...
Championing Diversity: IP Inclusive's 10-Year Journey 30.09.2025 37:15
Send us Fan Mail A decade of transforming the intellectual property landscape through inclusion, allyship, and community building, that's the remarkable journey of IP Inclusive we explore in this episode with founder Andrea Brewster. What makes IP Inclusive unique is its ground-up development, responding to the genuine needs of professionals rather than imposing initiatives from above. This a...
INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with… AIPLA 01.07.2025 41:34
Send us Fan Mail On our last episode, we are stepping into the world of global intellectual property advocacy as we sit down with Margaret Polson and Lauren B. Emerson from the American Intellectual Property Law Association (AIPLA) during the INTA conference in San Diego.
INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with… Rob Jackson 27.06.2025 36:47
Send us Fan Mail Our next guest to join Lee and Gwilym in our San Diego Pubcast is Rob Jackson. Chair of CIPA's UPC Committee, takes us on a captivating journey from his unconventional entry into patent law to his passionate advocacy for UK patent attorneys' involvement in the Unified Patent Court system. With refreshing candor, he reveals how a suggestion from his mother, a legal secret...
INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with... Michael McLaughlin 23.06.2025 31:27
Send us Fan Mail Lee and Gwilym were joined by Michael McLaughlin, Patent Attorney at McLaughlin IP Pte. Ltd., for this INTA Pubcast special. Ever wonder what happens when engineering expertise meets international IP law across multiple continents? Michael's twenty-year journey from electrical engineer to Singapore patent firm founder offers a fascinating glimpse into the possibilities of a g...
INTA San Diego Pubcast Special with... Vicki Salmon 20.06.2025 33:42
Send us Fan Mail To start off our San Diego Pubcast special, Lee and Gwilym sit down with Vicki Salmon. Vicki never planned on becoming a patent attorney. While preparing for a career as an accountant after studying natural sciences at Cambridge, a chance conversation with a neighbor who happened to be a High Court judge changed everything. "I think you should have a look at patents," he...
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