Monica and Amanda

Trying Very Hard: The Podcast

Society EN ↓ 19 episodes

We’re all try-hards — at work, in love, in healing, or just getting through the week. Trying is hard, but it might be the most meaningful part of the journey. Hosted by best friends Amanda and Monica, Trying Very Hard is a podcast about slowing down to unpack and celebrate the messy, unglamorous effort behind growth. Each week, we talk to friends and experts about what they’re trying hard at — from building a business to breaking a habit — and the insights they’ve uncovered along the way. If you’ve ever felt like you’re doing too much and not enough, you’re in good company.

Author

Monica and Amanda

Category

Society

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Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

Dance Saved Me: On the TCK Experience, Being Closeted, and Code-Switching (with Nakul Malik) 06.07.2026

Why does it take a dance floor to feel like yourself? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we sit down with Nakul Malik — a third culture kid born in Mumbai, raised in Jakarta, educated in Vancouver, now in Singapore — to talk identity, code-switching, and the room where he stopped editing himself: Bollywood dance. Nakul walks us through small adaptations — softening his own name, giving easier a...

Boobs & Beauty Standards: On Body Image, Insecurity, and Learning to Live in Your Body 23.06.2026

Body image isn't one thing. It's the comment someone made when you were nine. It's the era you grew up in. It's comparing yourself to a friend who isn't growing a human right now. In this episode of Trying Very Hard , Amanda and Monica talk honestly about their own body image journeys — the beauty standards they inherited, the insecurities they carried quietly for years, and th...

Building Your Own Modern Village: On Moving Countries, Burnout, & Belonging (with Alka Gupta) 15.06.2026

Why is making friends as an adult so hard — especially when you've just moved somewhere new and don't know a single person? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we talk to Alka Gupta, founder of Podium, about exactly that. And about the years of burnout, identity loss, and starting over that got her there. Alka shares the story of LinkedIn-messaging strangers for friendship, a Bumble BFF...

Stop Diagnosing Your Ex: How Attachment Styles & Love Languages Became a Trap 08.06.2026

You've taken the quiz. You know your attachment style. You've told a date your love language. So why does it feel like none of it is actually helping? In this Monanda episode of Trying Very Hard , Amanda and Monica talk honestly about the attachment style and love language frameworks everyone's obsessed with, and why they think both are being used in exactly the wrong way. From diagnos...

Inside the Life of a Football Agent: On Contracts, Resilience and the +1 / -1 Rule (with Matthew Moore) 01.06.2026

Ever romanticized a career that looks glamorous from the outside? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , Monanda sit down with Matthew Moore — football agent, South African globetrotter, and Monica's one true college friend — to find out what the job actually looks like behind the scenes. Matthew has spent his career negotiating contracts, managing young players' mental states, designing Pu...

Do You Want Kids? On Choosing Parenthood, Social Pressure, and Inherited Expectations 19.05.2026

Did you decide to have children — or did you just assume you would? In this episode of Trying Very Hard podcast, Amanda and Monica get honest about having kids, not having kids, maternal ambivalence, and the default most of us never question. Amanda is visibly pregnant. Monica has always assumed she'd want kids but has had her doubts. Together they unpack the default assumption that most of us inh...

Who Are You Without Your Job? On Burnout, Career Identity, and Starting Over (with Sandra Wang) 11.05.2026

Who are you without your job title? It's a question most high achievers never stop long enough to ask. Sandra Wang did — not by choice, but because burnout and a pandemic layoff left her with nothing else to sit with. In this episode of Trying Very Hard , the life and career coach and founder of The Kind Mind ( @thekindmindcoaching ) joins us to talk about career burnout, identity collapse, pe...

Love in Your Thirties: On Dating, Heartbreak, and Relearning Love as a Millennial 04.05.2026

The relationship patterns you build in your twenties don't just disappear. They follow you until something or someone finally makes you look at them. In this Trying Very Hard episode, Amanda and Monica get honest about dating in your twenties versus your thirties — the loves that shaped them, the patterns they had to unlearn, and what it actually took to get there. They talk about the addictiv...

When Fitness Is Coping: On Disordered Eating, Body Image, and Unlearning (with Naz Schifra) 27.04.2026

What if the body you're trying to build is the one that's slowly breaking you down? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we sit down with Naz Schifra ( @nazhariaschifra⁠ ) — co-founder of ELVTE ( @elvtesg ), coach, nutritionist, and former bodybuilder — to talk about the cost of being shredded, the disordered eating that bodybuilding prep requires, and the long, unsexy work of unlearning...

Sober Curious Movement: On Drinking Culture, Social Pressure, and Why We Default to Alcohol 20.04.2026

Why are we so weird about not drinking? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we get into the sober curious movement, drinking culture, social pressure, and why alcohol still feels like the default setting for socializing, dating, celebrating, and everything in between — even when fewer of us actually want to be drinking. Monica hasn't really drunk in six or seven years (she's allergic, an...

The Skeleton in the Closet: On Growing Up Queer, Religion, and the Long Road to Pride (with Jeshua John) 13.04.2026

What does it actually take to stop hiding from the people you love most? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we sit down with our dear friend Jeshua John — one of the most thoughtful people we know — for an honest conversation about growing up queer in a religious Malaysian family, the long and lonely journey through suicidal ideation and depression, and what it means to finally live without a s...

Is Self-Love Selfish? On Rest Guilt, Boundaries, and Actually Loving Yourself 06.04.2026

Is self-love selfish? We're going to argue no... but it's complicated. In this episode of Trying Very Hard , Amanda and Monica get into what self-love actually is — and why it's not the same as self-care, not the same as selfishness, and definitely not the same as a $50 gratitude journal. We talk about slow mornings, rest guilt, the generational gap around hustle and productivity, self...

Fearing Living More Than Dying: On Health Scares, Loss, and the Long Way Back (with Chris Gunawan) 30.03.2026

If you've ever been really good at escaping your own feelings, this one's for you. In this guest episode of Trying Very Hard , we sit down with Chris "Toto" Gunawan, Monica's friend since preschool, Jakarta local, and self-described YOLO hypochondriac to talk about the last decade of his life, which has included: two brain tumors, two years bedridden, peripheral vision loss, his dad's pancreatic c...

You Don't Have to Be Broken to Go to Therapy: On Mental Health, Stigma, and What We've Learned 23.03.2026

We use therapy language all the time now. Triggered. Boundaries. Protecting your peace. But how many of us are actually in therapy, and how many of us are actually doing the work when we get there? Why is it so hard to fully show up in therapy, even when you know you need it? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , Amanda and Monica get into the honest, slightly uncomfortable, and surprisingly perso...

If You Care for Me: One Banker's Journey from Shower Singer to Releasing Original Music (with Kelvin Kuan) 16.03.2026

What happens when you've spent your whole life being "the practical one," and then music starts demanding more of you? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we sit down with Kelvin Kuan (IG: kelvinkuanmusic ) — banker, events organizer, and now, recording artist — to talk about what it's actually like to take a creative passion seriously later in life. We get into Asian family ex...

Friendship After 30: Why It's Harder, Why It's Better, and How to Actually Keep It 09.03.2026

Friendships in your 30s require something your school-age self never had to give: actual, deliberate effort. In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we sit down — just the two of us — to unpack something we've both been quietly navigating: adult friendships, and how much harder (and better!) they've become. We get into the transition from convenient friendships to intentional ones, how life...

BookTok Brain: Are Reading Challenges Ruining Reading? (with Raissa Smarasista) 02.03.2026

She read 84 books in a year. And then she realized she was doing it wrong. In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we're joined by Raissa Smarasista (IG: @readwithraissa ) — UX researcher, part-time librarian at Casual Poet Library (IG: @casualpoetlibrary ), and one of our dearest friends — to talk about books, and the harder thing underneath: what it means to protect something you love from pro...

This Was Supposed to Feel Better: On Inherited Ambition, Quarter-Life Doubt, and Redefining Success 23.02.2026

Why does career success sometimes feel underwhelming, even when you’ve hit the milestones? In this episode of Trying Very Hard , we explore quarter-life doubt, inherited ambition, and the quiet identity crisis that can surface in your 20s and 30s. Are we chasing our own ambitions, or living out someone else’s definition of success? And what shaped those dreams in the first place — family expectati...

Introducing Trying Very Hard: Why We Started a Podcast in Our 30s (and What We’re Trying Very Hard At) 17.02.2026

Welcome to Trying Very Hard — a podcast about ambition, adulthood, identity, effort, and the messy beauty of caring deeply. We’re your hosts, Monica and Amanda, and in this first episode we share who we are, the stories that shaped us, what we're currently trying very hard at, and why we felt compelled to start this podcast now. We talk about our friendship, our careers, our insecurities, and...

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