Tried and Tested Podcast

In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier welcomes Kim Cohen, Vice President of Credentialing at ISACA, for a deep dive into the future of certification in a rapidly evolving tech landscape. Kim shares her remarkable 30-year journey in the industry and how saying "yes" to opportunity shaped her career. The conversation centers on ISACA’s groundbreaking innovations, incl...

What does it take to prove the value of certification in a changing industry, and how do you reconnect with a new generation of workers who aren’t convinced credentials matter? In this episode of Tried and Tested , PSI’s Chief Assessment Officer, Dr. Isabelle Gonthier, sits down with Rebecca Sutter, Chief Technical Officer at the National Institute for Automotive Service Excellence (ASE). Together...

In this episode of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Amy Farmer, Senior Director of Mobility at the American Association of Veterinary State Boards (AAVSB), for a dynamic conversation on striking the balance between accessibility and security in credentialing. Live from PSI’s Olathe, Kansas headquarters, Amy and Isabelle explore how AAVSB's program supports over 10,000 v...

In this episode of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Janie Schumaker, CEO of the Board of Certification for Emergency Nursing (BCEN), to explore how strategic innovation, authentic leadership, and unwavering commitment to certification are shaping the future of emergency nursing. Janie shares her unique journey from bedside nurse to CEO, her belief in the life-saving impact...

In this powerful episode of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier sits down at the ABNS Conference with two influential voices in the nursing certification world: Dr. Kevin Letz , CEO of the American Academy of Nurse Practitioners Certification Board and President of the American Board of Nursing Specialties (ABNS), and Dr. Margaret Erickson , CEO of the American Holistic Nurses Credentialing...

In this inspiring episode of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier sits down at the COABE Conference with two powerhouse leaders in adult education from New Mexico: Dr. Amber Gallup, State Director of Adult Education, and Jamie Trujillo, Executive Director of the New Mexico Adult Education Association. Together, they explore how New Mexico is transforming its adult education landscape—tackling...

In this special Tried and Tested episode recorded live at the ATP conference in Orlando, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Sierra Hampton-Simmons, Vice President of Certification at PMI, to explore what it really takes to operate a globally trusted certification program. From starting out as a high school teacher designing her own tests to leading one of the m...

In this episode of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP sits down with Dr. Manny Straehle, President and Founder of Assessment, Education, and Research Experts, to explore the evolution of competency modeling and its growing influence on credentialing and certification. Manny shares his journey from clinical psychology to psychometrics, revealing how his passion for competency m...

What makes a voluntary certification truly valuable? In this episode of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Kevin Keller, CEO of the CFP Board, to explore the impact of public awareness campaigns on credentialing. Kevin shares the origin story behind the CFP Board’s It’s Gotta Be a CFP® campaign, the strategic decisions that led to its success, and how it transformed demand fo...

In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Jared Zurn, Senior Vice President of Programs at the National Council of Architectural Registration Boards (NCARB), to discuss how certification is evolving to keep pace with an ever-changing profession. Jared shares his journey from practicing architect to credentialing leader and explains how NCARB is rethinking its appro...

How does a credentialing organization rebrand successfully while maintaining trust, legacy, and mission alignment? In this episode of Tried and Tested, host Isabelle Gonthier sits down with Paul Bishop, President and CEO of Water Professionals International (WPI), to explore the transformative journey of rebranding from the Association of Boards of Certification (ABC) to WPI. Paul shares the motiv...

In this episode of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Helen Coleman, Chief Operating Officer at ABRSM, to explore the critical role of equity, diversity, and inclusion (EDI) in assessments. As a UK-based organization with a rich history in music assessments, ABRSM serves a wide demographic of learners, including young candidates, and has embr...

In this special live episode of Tried and Tested, recorded at the inaugural Credentialing Leaders Summit in Miami Beach, host Isabelle Gonthier dives into the rapidly evolving world of assessment security and innovation. Joined by an expert panel featuring Dr. Yermie Cohen, CEO of Memorang, Janet Garcia, CEO of PSI, and Wally Dalrymple, Chief Security Officer at PSI and ETS, this dynamic conversat...

Join Tried and Tested host, Isabelle Gonthier, as she sits down with Ada Woo, VP of Innovative Learning and Assessment Solutions at Ascend Learning, for an engaging conversation on the evolving role of psychometricians in an AI-driven world. Recorded at the E-ATP Conference in Berlin, this episode dives into Ada's inspiring journey from aspiring clinical psychologist to psychometrician, the impact...

In this episode of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Jim Harris, #1 international bestselling author and innovation thought leader, to explore the transformative impact of AI on assessment and education. From personalized, AI-driven assessments to addressing global doctor shortages through creative credentialing solutions, Jim offers fascina...

In episode 16 of the Tried and Tested podcast, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI Services, sits down with Yermie Cohen, CEO of Memorang, to dive into how AI is revolutionizing exam content generation and test development. Yermie discusses his journey from medicine to EdTech and shares insights on Memorang’s work in using AI to streamline content creation and enhance the relev...

In Episode 15 of the Tried and Tested podcast, host Isabelle Gonthier is joined by Ginger Marshall , CEO for Hospice and Palliative Nursing Association (HPNA), the Hospice and Palliative Credentialing Center (HPCC), and the Hospice and Palliative Nurses Foundation (HPNF), and Heather Richards for a compelling discussion on the value and impact of certification. Ginger shares her journey from palli...

In Episode 14 of Tried and Tested , host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Marc Weinstein, Managing Attorney at MJ Weinstein Law, for a compelling discussion on the evolving role of AI in test security.  Marc shares his journey from a prosecutor to a key figure in the assessment industry, offering valuable insights into how AI can transform test security while navi...

In this exclusive episode of the Tried and Tested Podcast, host Isabelle Gonthier, sits down with Amit Sevak, the visionary CEO of ETS, to explore the future of the assessment industry. As the leader of one of the world's most influential assessment organizations, Amit provides an in-depth look into how standardized testing is transforming in response to rapid changes in education. From the ri...

Join us for Episode 12 of the Tried and Tested podcast where host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Lori Tinkler, CEO of The National Board of Respiratory Care (NBRC), to explore the power of social media in connecting with test takers and the broader credentialing community. Lori shares her journey into the assessment industry and reveals why social media became a...

In this insightful episode, host Isabelle Gonthier, Chief Assessment Officer at PSI, sits down with Liberty Munson, Director of Psychometrics at Microsoft, to explore how the field of psychometrics is being transformed by technological advancements. Liberty and Isabelle explore the exciting opportunities that AI and machine learning are unlocking for psychometricians, as well as the challenges of...

In this episode of the Tried and Tested podcast, Isabelle-, is joined by Frank Perna, Director of Certification at the National Association for Healthcare Quality (NAHQ). Frank brings over 15 years of credentialing experience to the conversation, sharing his expertise in managing and overseeing certification programs across various industries.  Together, Isabelle and Frank explore the complexities...

Join us for episode 9 of the Tried and Tested podcast with host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP and special guest Kara McWilliams, PhD. Kara is the Vice President of Product Innovation and Development at ETS, an organization at the forefront of AI in the assessment industry. In this compelling conversation, Isabelle and Kara dive deep into the current and future application of AI in assessment, hi...

In this episode of the Tried and Tested podcast, host Isabelle Gonthier is joined by Ibi Layi-Ojo, Director of Examinations at CFP Board and Denise Roosendaal, Executive Director at the Institute for Credentialing Excellence (I.C.E.) to explore the world of accreditation for testing programs. They discuss the motivations behind seeking formal recognition for testing programs and the significant be...

Join host Isabelle Gonthier, PhD, ICE-CCP in this special episode of Tried and Tested as she chats with the winners of the 2023 ICE NextGen Professional Award, Jessica Dangles, MBA, MS, PMP, and Pamela Ing, PhD, ICE-CCP. Jessica and Pamela were recognized as two exceptional individuals making waves in the credentialing field by demonstrating a commitment to developing the essential skills for succ...