Devon Hayes & Amanda Joyce

Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing

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Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing is for home services contractors and who are looking for easy to implement marketing tips and strategies. This podcast is for you if you're looking for actionable marketing tactics that are not over your head, and apply to ALL trades. We'll keep you apprised of what's new, and what should be on your radar for all things digital marketing.

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Devon Hayes & Amanda Joyce

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Business

Latest episode

Jun 22, 2026

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Episodes

Are You Buying Results, Rankings, Software, or Just Better-Sounding SEO? | Ep 72 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 22.06.2026

In this episode of Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing , we tackle one of the most confusing challenges contractors face when evaluating marketing agencies and services: understanding what they're actually buying. Are you investing in results, rankings, software, a marketing strategy, or simply a better sales pitch? Based on a real-world contractor scenario, Amanda and Devon break down the m...

Speed-to-Lead: Why Contractors Lose Leads to Faster Competitors | Ep 71 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 09.03.2026

In this episode of Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing , we break down one of the biggest reasons contractors lose jobs—even when their marketing is working: slow speed-to-lead . Amanda and Devon discuss why speed-to-lead is critical for converting marketing leads into booked estimates and real jobs . They walk through common scenarios contractors face—calls that go unanswered, form submissions s...

Where Do I Start with Paid Media? | Ep 70 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 23.02.2026

In this episode of Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing, we break down the question contractors ask constantly: where do I even start with paid media, especially if you have tried ads before and felt like they didn’t work. We walk through the major channels contractors get pitched, and explain why you do not need to spend everywhere at all times to win with paid. Amanda shares the decision framewo...

Where Do I Start with Online Visibility? | Ep 69 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 09.02.2026

In this episode of Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing, we break down the real question behind all the buzzwords: where should a contractor actually start to get found online in search and in AI-driven results. We cut through the noise around constantly evolving acronyms like AEO and explain how these tactics connect back to the same fundamentals, then map out a practical way to decide what you n...

How Stephen Spallo Scaled A Contracting Business from $2 Million to $7 Million in Two Years | Ep 68 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 12.01.2026

In this episode, we sit down with Stephen Spallo, now the Chief Operating Officer at Stag Homes Design Build. Before stepping into that role, Stephen played a key part in growing a residential contracting company from $2 million to $7 million in just two years. He shares the lessons, leadership mindset, and systems that made it possible. A major turning point in his journey was reading Traction: G...

2025 In Review - What You Can Expect In 2026 | Ep 67 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 29.12.2025

In this reflective episode of Trades Secrets, Amanda and Devon review everything that 2025 taught us about marketing, research, agency life, and more. What worked? What didn’t work? And most importantly, why. This is not just a look back. It’s a look forward - through the lens of curiosity, intentionality, and growth. The hosts also outline how they’re thinking about 2026: where to double down, wh...

AI Hallucinations - What They Are and How to Fix Them | Ep 66 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 15.12.2025

In this mind-bending episode, Amanda and Devon dive headfirst into the weird and wild world of AI hallucinations. What does it really mean when artificial intelligence "hallucinates"? Why do these systems sometimes get facts completely wrong with absolute confidence? And what can you do to stop it? Check out the Truth Protocol below to help your AI assistant stop hallucinating and start...

Imposter Syndrome is a Superpower | Ep 65 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 01.12.2025

Everyone feels like a fraud sometimes. But what if that feeling isn’t a weakness, but a sign that you are growing into something bigger? In this episode of Trades Secrets, Devon and Amanda dive deep into imposter syndrome and reveal how it can actually become one of your greatest tools in business and marketing. Whether you’re a contractor building a business or a marketer trying to prove your val...

3 Ways to Generate More Leads in 2026 | Ep 64 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 17.11.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we are finally together in person for a special retreat edition of Trades Secrets . We share three simple and effective ways for contractors to attract more leads in 2026. Whether you are just getting started or running a large, established company, these lead generation strategies will help you bring in more business and grow consistently. We break down how to g...

Raise the Roofle: How Smart Contractors Are Selling Roofs in a Click | Ep 63 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 03.11.2025

In this episode, we sit down with Roofle’s Matthew McDaniel and Chris Morris to uncover how instant roof quote technology is transforming the way contractors sell, market, and scale their businesses. From its early beginnings as a B2C experiment to its evolution into one of the most impactful SaaS platforms in home improvement, Roofle is helping contractors close more deals, build trust faster, an...

Roofle-ution | Ep 62 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 20.10.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we share our candid story of how we went from Roofle skeptics (the popular satellite-based roofing calculator) to becoming official resellers (and to be honest, huge fans). We break down how the tool has evolved over the last few years, what’s changed in buyer behavior, and why interactive quoting tools like Roofle are becoming essential for contractors in today’...

Why Paid Media Management Fees Exist | Ep 61 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 29.09.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we pull back the curtain on one of the most misunderstood costs in contractor marketing: paid media management fees. Whether you’ve wondered why agencies charge 15-25% of ad spend or questioned what exactly happens behind the scenes, this conversation breaks it down in plain English. From Google Ads optimization to negative keyword management, reporting transpare...

Shopping for a Marketing Agency in 2026 | Ep 60 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 15.09.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we look ahead to one of the most important decisions contractors will face in the coming year: shopping for a marketing agency. Choosing between productized services, full-service partnerships, or even AI-driven tools isn’t easy, and the wrong move can waste both time and money. We break down how to evaluate whether you need lead generation, branding or both, and...

Goodbye Leads: What Kills Your LSA Ranking | Ep 59 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 16.06.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we tackle one of the most frustrating—and powerful—tools in contractor marketing: Google Local Service Ads (LSAs). What used to be a golden ticket for lead generation has become a minefield of missed calls, dropped rankings, and Google’s ever-changing rules. We break down how LSAs actually work in 2025, what’s changed, and what you can do to get back in Google&ap...

Content is Critical: Low Investment & High ROI | Ep 58 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 02.06.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we take a deep dive into the real engine behind high-performing SEO: content—not the generic, AI-scraped fluff, but the kind that moves the needle, drives leads, and builds long-term authority. We peel back the curtain on how truly impactful content is created, sharing insights from years of working with contractors and real-world success stories that prove the R...

‘About Us’ Pages Are Really About Them | Ep 57 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 12.05.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets , we take a fresh look at one of the most overlooked—but most visited—pages on your website: the About Us page. Inspired by insights from Marcus Sheridan and supported by real data from their own client base, the hosts break down how to turn a stale About page into a powerful trust-building, conversion-driving asset. You’ll learn why a “me, me, me” approach falls...

Why Website Maintenance is a MUST in 2025 | Ep 56 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 28.04.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets , we unpack the confusing world of website hosting and maintenance—what it really means, why it matters, and how skipping it can hurt your business more than you realize. Through easy-to-understand analogies (like bad neighbors and bandwidth hogs), you’ll walk away with a clear understanding of what’s going on behind the scenes of your site—and how to keep it runn...

Remodeling Nightmare | Ep 55 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 14.04.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets , we dive into a raw, real-life remodeling nightmare—and the powerful lessons it holds for both contractors and homeowners. Hear a firsthand account of a 6-week project turned 20-week disaster, and what contractors can do differently to win customer trust, communicate better, and deliver an exceptional experience. Whether you’re a solo pro or run a full crew, this...

AEO for Trades: How to Optimize Answers and Maximize Local Leads | Ep 54 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 27.01.2025

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we explore how Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) is revolutionizing contractor marketing. Learn how AEO can help trade professionals optimize answers to customer questions and dominate local search rankings. We dive deep into actionable strategies to maximize local leads, leveraging AEO to position your business as the trusted authority in your market. “If you mee...

The Contractors Guide to Video Marketing in 2025 | Ep 53 | Trades Secrets: Contractor Marketing 17.12.2024

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we have the pleasure of talking to Carl Kwan, an expert video marketing strategist with a YouTube channel of over 121,000 subscribers. Together we talk about Video Marketers vs Videographers, Carl’s 2025 predictions, and the four videos you NEED to have for your contracting business come 2025. “People don’t realize YouTube is the world’s 2nd largest search engine...

Episode 52 - 10 Tips for Contractor Marketing 08.07.2024

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we go over the top 10 tips for contractor marketing to help you improve business growth and customer acquisition. We emphasize the importance of having a solid foundation in place before ramping up marketing efforts. Whether you’re a small business, a roofing contractor, or just someone interested in knowing more about effective marketing practices, this is the e...

Episode 51 - Light Em' Up Website Roast 24.06.2024

In this episode of Trades Secrets, we focus on critiquing and analyzing one of our client's websites. Inspired by “The Roast of Tom Brady”, we perform a detailed review of their website while also roasting some of its flaws along the way. Throughout the episode you will hear typical mistakes made on company websites, with areas of improvement pointed out with our explanation of why you should...

Episode 50 - The Google Leak: Sandboxin' Son of a 10.06.2024

Welcome back contractors! In this episode, we dive into the biggest Google search algorithm leak in history, exposing thousands of APIs in a 2,500+ page document. We dissect just some of the bigger points from the leak, providing insights and actionable tips for contractors regarding search engine optimization (SEO) and website management. This is a must-watch for any contractor looking to gain in...

Episode 49 - Tech Talk: Bringing Clarity to Marketing Jargon 06.05.2024

Welcome back contractors! In this episode, we take a look at common marketing jargon you may have heard either with your marketing agency or on social media. If you’ve ever felt confused hearing some of these terms or want to have a better understanding of marketing lingo, then this is the episode for you! Episode Highlights: Host - The server where your website is hosted and stored DNS - Domain N...

Episode 48 - Top 5 Episodes of 2023 22.04.2024

Welcome back contractors! In this episode, we look back at our 5 best-performing episodes of 2023 based on engagements and other metrics. While revisiting these episodes we discuss why we think they were so popular and give an overview of the key points of those episodes. So if you’re new here we encourage you to go back and listen to those as most are still applicable in 2024! Episode Highlights:...

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