Susan Clinton and Erica Meloe

Tough to Treat

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Welcome to Tough to Treat: A Physiotherapists' Guide to Managing Those Complex Patients, with your hosts Erica Meloe and Susan Clinton, who discuss how they successfully treated patients that others could not. Via case history discussion, they share their physical therapy expertise from treating long standing pelvic pain to persistent neck pain. They present a holistic and integrative view on assessing and treating chronic pain. Unique movement strategies and specific patient exercise prescription are also presented so you can be ahead of the curve when it comes to treating these types of pati...

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Susan Clinton and Erica Meloe

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toughtotreat.com

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Jun 2, 2026

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Episodes

Designing Exercise Progressions For The Tough To Treat 27.01.2022

How do you design a sound, clinically reasoned exercise progression? Taking into account multiple drivers? If someone has low back pain, do you give them core stability exercises? I hope not, unless they have an abdominal wall deficit! In this episode Susan and Erica talk about a patient from episode 81 and what constitutes an approporiate exercise progression for someone whose drivers were in his...

Persistent Pubic Symphysis Pain/Right Anterior Hip Pain 13.01.2022

10-20% of women with pelvic girdle pain in pregnancy will persist into the post-partum era. Join us as we share a discussion on the history that led to the eventual battery of relevant tests/measures and interventions that were not only meaningful to the client, but also were achievable in her very busy time of life with small children. Join our new Premium Podcast Club: toughtotreat.supercast.com...

Does the Elbow Always Drive Elbow Pain? 30.12.2021

A fall on an outstretched elbow (FOOSH) with resulting elbow pain. Not your typical overuse or mechanical injury common to this region of the body. What happens when your differential diagnosis leads you somewhere else? Susan and Erica discuss the backbone of the initial assessment as well as treatment specific strategies that will help you get these patients better quicker. They also relate some...

A Case of Lateral Hip Pain 15.12.2021

Consideration of lateral hip pain requires a thoughtful clinical reasoning process to discover the physiology/movement patterns as well as neural contributions required to make a diagnosis and successfully build an intervention that lasts. One size does not fit all - join us as we discuss the findings in this "not so unique" case and the discovery of the underlying movement patterns, impairments a...

5 Symptomatic Regions Of The Body With One Main Driver- Part 2 02.12.2021

After listening to Part 1 of this case (episode 109), how would you design an exercise progression? Remember you need to find the driver first. Designing a movement program based on this patient's symptoms would NOT work, as his driver(s) lie elsewhere. Once you are confident you've found it, think about the impairment. Does he have an overactive superficial system or underactivity somewhere else...

5 Symptomatic Regions Of The Body With One Main Driver 18.11.2021

What happens when you have 2 regions of the body that when treated together give your patient the best movement options and no pain? But, when they are treated separately, not only is the patient worse, but their movement lacks coordination and ease. This episode highlights someone who has over 5 regions of the body that are meaningful and symptomatic. Literally from head to toe! Listen as Erica a...

Complex Persistent Pain - Part 2 Where is the driver? 04.11.2021

Do you have thoughts on the driver from part 1? In part 2 we take you through the discovery and clinical reasoning parts to determine the primary driver for this client's symptoms. For intervention - think of the easiest steps to begin to find a way into the system to make large changes. Listen in as Susan and Erica discuss how symptoms can be present in various positions but can be changed throug...

Complex Persistent Pain - Part 1 Where is the driver? 21.10.2021

We always discuss history and relevant events. In this episode we take a deeper dive into all aspects of the story in the BPS lens. Join us for our discussion on the importance of uncovering significant historical peices regardless of the referral or medical diagnosis. You have an opportunity to put on your clinical reasoning cap with us as we set up this clinical case in Part 1! Check us out: Tou...

Persistent Unsolved Hip Pain 07.10.2021

Does all hip pain require strengthening? Of course not! And certainly not in this persistent case. This episode shows you the importance of digging deep into the history and really learning how to connect the dots. From the way the patient walks and what that means for symptom provocation to exposing the vestibular system as a potential driver. Other candidates include the foot, thorax and neck. L...

Nociplastic Pain and a Visceral Driver 16.09.2021

What do you do when a client presents with a myriad of LQ symptoms without a clear regional driver? Look to the history and keep asking questions even further back than the recent onset or episodic flare. Join us as we discuss complex neurology of a visceral driver that has signs of dysfunction and a somatic pain presentation. Once again, the history is so important! Check us out: toughtotreat.com

"X" Marks The Spot-Navigating The True Source Of Shoulder Pain 26.08.2021

Save yourself time by learning how to find the driver quicker. This is the case of a neck driven shoulder- but not in the way you think! Do all shoulder patients need strengthening? Not really. We talk about how to hone in on the impairment and narrow the assessment down to a few movements that will help you successfully clinically reason through most upper extremity issues. We also discuss novel...

Complex Ankle Sprains - What is Missing? 12.08.2021

Ankle sprain rehab can seem so straight forward - decrease swelling, improve ROM and strength - right? Wait, why are a good number not improving and returning to previous activities? Once again, the client's story and history can really lead us further into the complexity of the foot/ankle joint and all of the systems that need to be considered in returning this region to full function. Clinical P...

Treatment Progressions for the Tough To Treat- Clinical Pearls 15.07.2021

Clinical pearl alert! This episode tells the story of 3 patients and their treatment progressions. Typical symptoms but atypical drivers. What types of exercises do you prescribe for your patient when their symptom is in their feet and their driver lies in their thorax? What is their impairment? This is a discussion of how you would SPECIFICALLY treat and develop a well thought out exercise progre...

SI Joint Pain - An Updated Approach 01.07.2021

Here is the clinical story of a client that is presenting with pain/sensitivity in the area of the (R) posterior pelvis. In this episode we discuss what has been unhelpful for her with regard to past interventions and why the biospsychosocial approach and creating the therapeutic alliance is so important to give her the ability to improve her movement system. Meaningful activities, violating expec...

What To Do When Your Patient Plateaus 17.06.2021

What do you do when a patient plateaus? Doesn't improve? Join us for our first Q and A broadcast on how to clnically reason through a patient's treatment program when their progress starts to slow down. We discuss a specific patient example and what constitutes a solid progressive exercise program. This also includes reset exercises to restore optimal motor patterning so she can identify what move...

What To Do When Your Patient Plateaus 17.06.2021

What do you do when a patient plateaus? Doesn't improve? Join us for our first Q and A broadcast on how to clnically reason through a patient's treatment program when their progress starts to slow down. We discuss a specific patient example and what constitutes a solid progressive exercise program. This also includes reset exercises to restore optimal motor patterning so she can identify what move...

Clinical Pearls for the Shoulder-Understanding the Connections in the Upper Quarter 03.06.2021

Join us for a special episode on the shoulder. This is a re-release of one of our most popular episodes to date. As a bonus, we present 3 case studies of patients with typical shoulder pain who have different drivers and certainly different exercise programs. Sometimes the key to helping a patient's persistent shoulder pain is looking at all of the underlying inputs into their system. What are the...

The Key To Functional Movement Assessments 20.05.2021

Join us for Part 2 of our discussion on functional movement patterns. How can you make your assessment more efficient and reliable? We discuss what to look for when evaluating someone's ability to move in and out of certain movements. How do you determine if a dysfunctional foot is driving your client's hip pain when squatting? Or if poor thoracic control is responsible for low back pain when asse...

"Why Does My Foot Hurt? What's Going On?" 05.05.2021

Why would someone who is 3 months post fibular fracture get worse after a basic theraband ankle exercise? Not everyone needs inversion and eversion theraband exercises. Right? This is an in depth clinical discussion on understanding the "why" hidden in the patient narrative. And a specific process on how to assess the whole foot and not just the ankle. We also discuss why this patient's center of...

Musculoskeletal Driver of Hip Pain in a Young Dancer 22.04.2021

When working with young athletes it is easy to have early success in treating the acute or subacute injuries. What happens when the latest injury reveals a very chronic situation elsewhere in the body? Don't be fooled by generalized and chronic complaints underlying the present situation in these teenagers. They may improve quickly in one respect, but looking deeper can help them improve adaptatio...

The Knee and its Relationship to the Whole Person 08.04.2021

How does the knee affect so many parts of the body? Join us for this discussion on this important intermediate joint of the lower kinetic chain and how dysfunction here can alter the movement system for the whole person. Check us out: Toughtotreat.com

Chest Pain In An Endurance Athlete 26.03.2021

Does chest pain raise your eyebrows? Red flag? Or wild goose chase? This case is an insight into a classic endurance athlete and how his past injuries reveal a true deficit which can be the potential driver for his current symptoms. These symptoms that only occur 3-4 hours after a bike ride. We discuss viscero-somatic cross talk, the cardiac sinus and its biomechanics as well as a how to start tre...

Shoulder Pain and Distal Drivers 11.03.2021

This episode features a case of shoulder pain with unusual drivers due to their distal proximity. Join us as we discuss this interesting clinical case on a very active man with chronic shoulder pain, fear avoidance, anxiety and some unique clinical reasoning to help him recover! Check us out: Toughtotreat.com

Not Your Ordinary Knee Patient 25.02.2021

What do you automatically think when someone tells you they have knee pain? It's worse with walking SW and walking FW. And the patient cannot sleep sidelying because his knee hurts when he sleeps on either side. He can squat no problem. Are you thinking what we're thinking? Susan and Erica unpack this patient's story and dive into specific hints or cues that the patient gives to indicate that it's...

Thoracic Mobility Beyond The Breath 22.02.2021

In this episode Susan and Erica discuss the many ways the thorax can be the driver for a multitude of upper and lower extremity issues. This important region of the body tends to be the cause for a lot of movement dysfunction we often see. As an example, the thorax is an important component in driving foot pain as well as issues in the pelvic girdle. If you can get the thorax moving differently, t...

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