Pavilion
Topline
The #1 podcast for founders, operators, and investors in B2B tech. Tune in every week to hear Sam Jacobs, AJ Bruno and Asad Zaman discuss and debate the trends, news, and developments impacting the B2B tech world. Enjoy the hot takes, strong opinions, and dry humor.
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Episodes
E49: A sneak peek into Pavilion's 2024 B2B Compensation Benchmarks 24.03.2024 47:33
Be the first to hear insights from Pavilion's 2024 B2B Compensation Benchmarks. before its April 1 release to the general public. Pavilion members have early access in the member hub . Our hosts also discuss layoffs, hirings, and how the negotiation scale is tipping back towards companies vs candidates and dive into Carta's State of Compensation H2 2023 report . Want more Topline? Read episode rec...
TOPLINE HOTLINE: What's the optimal way to structure my comp plan? 21.03.2024 10:27
In this week's mini-episode, AJ Bruno, Asad Zaman, and Kevin Knieriem of Clari discuss the challenges of building a compensation plan for sales leaders. They explore whether the plan should be based on quota capacity or the expected delivered quota as well as the tension that can arise between go-to-market teams and executives when redefining compensation plans. Enjoy the mini-episode? Read the re...
E48: Kevin Knieriem, President of Clari on expanding their serviceable addressable market and building a unified platform 17.03.2024 1:09:37
Learn how revenue platforms like Clari, Gong, and Outreach have evolved over the years and how Clari's President, Kevin Knieriem , is expanding their SAM into verticals like medical devices, manufacturing, and financial services. The group also discusses Clari's approach to becoming a unified revenue platform. Want more Topline? Read the recaps and join the Topline Slack channel to engage with the...
Steal the new model for the anti-bloated, recession-proof sales team 14.03.2024 56:56
Instead of the usual Topline Hotline episode, we are excited to share Sam's guest appearance on the 30 Minutes to President's Club Tactic Teardown podcast. Discover a market shift observed by revenue experts Sam Jacobs, Mark Kosoglow, and Armand Farrokh. Learn how to leverage it for an efficient sales team that consistently meets revenue goals. If you liked what you saw here, join 50,000+ sellers...
E47: Does the practice of co-CEOs actually work? 10.03.2024 57:49
In last week's episode featuring Edward Chiu, it was revealed that he will serve as co-CEO alongside the CEO of Totango as the two companies merge. But how does this really work? This week, our hosts delve into the effectiveness and long-term sustainability of the co-CEO model, drawing insights from their leadership backgrounds and the achievements of companies embracing this shared role. They als...
TOPLINE HOTLINE: How can I establish a new operating cadence? 07.03.2024 6:16
Our hosts answer a question from Pavilion's CRO Slack channel about driving organizational change, specifically focusing on enhancing operational rhythm after joining a new company. They discuss how to approach changing your organization's operating cadence and the role that understanding your customer plays in transforming a business's operational rhythm. Enjoy the mini-episode? Check out our ful...
E46: A New Era in CS - Catalyst CEO Edward Chiu on their Merger with Totango 03.03.2024 1:03:52
Edward Chiu , CEO of Catalyst , breaks the news of their merger with Totango, another leading Customer Success platform. Edward sheds light on what led to this decision and the broader implications this merger will have on the CS landscape. Get an in-depth look at Catalyst's approach to nurturing innovation and driving customer value.
TOPLINE HOTLINE: How do I pick the right lead qualification methodology? 29.02.2024 15:04
In this mini-episode, Sam, AJ, and Asad discuss selecting the right lead qualification methodology and explore the challenges in using the BANT methodology for qualifying SMBs. Enjoy the mini-episode? Check out Topline .
E45: Crossbeam CEO Bob Moore on Leveraging Partnerships to Grow Your Business 25.02.2024 1:09:05
Explore the world of partnerships and ecosystem-led growth with Bob Moore, CEO and Co-Founder of Crossbeam. Bob delves into his journey of building symbiotic partnerships, the pivotal role of ecosystems in scaling ventures, and how his approach to collaborative growth has shaped his successful entrepreneurial career. Want more Topline? Read the recaps.
TOPLINE HOTLINE: Should I stay or should I go? 22.02.2024 12:59
In this week's Topline Hotline, our hosts discuss a question from the Pavilion Slack surrounding whether a CRO at a Series A company should stay or go, given the challenges and uncertainties they are facing. Enjoying the mini-episode? Check out Topline .
E44: The 2024 M&A Landscape and How to Attract Acquisition Interest 18.02.2024 52:54
Our hosts delve into the M&A landscape of 2024, dissecting how economic trends such as stagnant interest rates are hindering IPOs and how the ripple effects of the US election can create market volatility. They also provide actionable tips on attracting acquisition interest. The episode concludes with a discussion on macro-news and how to streamline SaaS metrics.
TOPLINE HOTLINE: How to get feedback as an executive 15.02.2024 10:49
In this mini-episode, Sam, AJ, and Asad discuss getting executive feedback. They explore the benefits and challenges of getting feedback as an executive in both large and small companies.
E43: Recap of Pavilion's CEO Summit 11.02.2024 53:01
In this episode of Topline, our hosts recap their time at Pavilion's CEO Summit in Phoenix. They also discuss the impact of macroeconomic improvements on market trends, the recent wave of layoffs in the tech sector, and a prevailing sentiment among CEOs toward prioritizing profitability and sustainable growth amidst market adjustments. Watch SaaStr's Jason Lemkin's CEO Summit session where he shar...
TOPLINE HOTLINE: So, what's the deal with variable comp plans? 08.02.2024 14:23
For this week's mini-episode, our hosts discuss a question from the Pavilion CRO Slack channel around the fairness and effectiveness of variable compensation plans for Chief Revenue Officers.
E42: Carta's Peter Walker on Fundraising, Valuations, and Shutdowns 04.02.2024 1:05:55
Carta's Head of Insights, Peter Walker, joins our hosts to discuss the implications of economic rate cuts, company shutdowns, and the challenges founders face during fundraising. The discussion also covers the best investment opportunities today and the importance of equity for employees and organizational health in companies.
Topline Hotline: Where should account managers sit within the organization? 01.02.2024 13:44
In this episode of Topline Hotline, our hosts tackle a burning question from Pavilion's Slack community: where should account managers sit within the organization? Should they report to the new business leader? Or to the customer success leader?
E41: Unicorn Companies, Venture Capital Landscape, and Executive Hiring Insights 28.01.2024 1:04:30
In this episode, hosts Sam Jacobs, Asad Zaman, and AJ Bruno delve into the dynamics of the late-stage tech market, discussing trends in unicorn companies, the venture capital landscape, and the importance of aligning business growth with profitability. They also explore the concept of 'stage appropriateness' in executive hiring and share insights on effectively communicating company valuation and...
TOPLINE HOTLINE: What percentage of demand should be driven by the sales team? 25.01.2024 11:08
In this episode of Topline Hotline, the hosts discuss the balance between inbound and outbound strategies for demand generation in a traditional SaaS business. They explore the effectiveness of different channels and the impact of factors such as interest rates and artificial intelligence, emphasizing the importance of deep empathy for the customer and finding unique approaches that work for each...
E40: The Carta Controversy, Cloudflare's Viral Moment, and The Death of Growth at Any Cost 21.01.2024 1:06:07
Our hosts discuss viral moments from the past two weeks, including Carta's exit of their secondary market business and Cloudflare's layoff of an AE that went viral on TikTok and LinkedIn. The episode wraps up with a discussion sparked by one of Sam's most recent LinkedIn posts on how Growth at Any Cost (GAAC) is dead. Want more Topline? Read the recaps.
TOPLINE HOTLINE: How do you revamp a performance improvement plan so it's effective? 18.01.2024 12:01
In this episode of Topline Hotline, our hosts delve into their personal experiences with performance improvement plans (PIPs). Drawing from their extensive careers as sales leaders, they share valuable insights on PIPs and provide practical suggestions on approaching and navigating them.
E39: Tomasz Tunguz of Theory Ventures on AI, 2024 Predictions, and Metrics That Matter 15.01.2024 1:01:23
Founder and General Partner of Theory Ventures, Tomasz Tunguz, shares his founder story, his predictions for 2024, and his point of view on artificial intelligence from the changing landscape of AI to Microsoft's leadership in the AI race. He also shares insights on the impact of inflation and interest rates on the tech industry, concerns about the size of the venture capital industry, and the met...
TOPLINE HOTLINE: What's the future of fractional leadership in 2024? 11.01.2024 11:21
In 2023, we saw fractional leadership become increasingly popular. But will the pendulum swing in the opposite direction in 2024? Or is fractional leadership here to stay? Listen to this Thursday's mini-episode to hear what our hosts think.
E38: Decision Making: Speed vs Consideration 07.01.2024 58:53
Our hosts cover a gamut of topics in our first episode of the new year. Since Harvard's President, Claudine Gay, resigned due to her response towards anti-semitism on campus – should the experiences of current college students be considered when hiring? Next, we transition to a conversion on the rise of secondary sales to generate liquidity. Wrapping up the episode by exploring the balance between...
E37: Fed updates and the fallout from the cancellation of the Adobe-Figma acquisition 24.12.2023 56:27
This week on Topline, the hosts talk about the Federal Reserve's update on interest rates, the economic outlook for the tech sector in 2024, a new paper by Winning by Design's that asks whether SaaS has lost go to market fit, and the cancellation of the Adobe and Figma merger.
TOPLINE HOTLINE: Does gift giving build psychological captial? 21.12.2023 10:55
On this week's Topline Hotline, a listener wonders if gift giving is still a thing. Does it build psychological capital? And does it differ between employees vs customers? Listen to hear what Sam, AJ, and Asad have to say.
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