Time To Say Goodbye

Time To Say Goodbye

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A podcast about politics, culture, fishing, surfing and some other stuff with Jay Caspian Kang and Tyler Austin Harper goodbye.substack.com

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Jul 8, 2026

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National *phew* and your letters 10.11.2020

Hello from a USPS mailbag! This week, before getting into your letters, we reminisce about Saturday’s election news a.k.a the international dopamine-flood event. We “wow just wow” at the Democratic establishment’s (ridiculous and ridiculously premature) punch left, and swoon over AOC’s punch back in an interview with the New York Times . We also dissect a viral video of Tucker Carlson explaining w...

The neverending election 05.11.2020

Hello from Philly, Berkeley, and Missoula! In this #2020 special, we share our jaundiced views of the U! S! A! and the election as of Wednesday night, 24 hours after polls closed.  Discussed: * Tuesday night’s emotional roller-coaster * Post-vote explanations based on racial and ethnic checkboxes * “ Jay Kang, (G.O.P.) political consultant ” * Propositions 22 and 16 in California * Tammy’s feel-go...

The Asian American vote, with Hua Hsu! 27.10.2020

Hello from Tammy’s snowbank! This week, we welcome TTSG friend Hua Hsu , a professor at Vassar and a staff writer at The New Yorker , who just wrote an excellent pre-election story: “Are Asian Americans the Last Undecided Voters?” The piece digs into stuff we’ve been obsessing about, on and off the air, including the fuzziness of the Asian American label, the rise of East Asian Republicans, organi...

What's a Bernie person supposed to do now?: A pre-election special with Brooke Adams and Tobita Chow 23.10.2020

Bonus pre-election episode! Two weeks ahead of the last judgment, Andy talks with two organizers about the “existential battle” over the soul of the Democratic Party. Brooke Adams , a second-generation Taiwanese Seattleite, worked for the Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign in Iowa, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania before joining People’s Action this summer. Tobita Chow , a Chinese-Japanese-Canadian-Amer...

Korean wig stores, with Jenny Wang Medina; and Hunger Games in Thailand 20.10.2020

Welcome to the Terrordome! This week, we have a brilliant guest, TTSG pal and Korean literature scholar Jenny Wang Medina , who grew up in her family’s beauty-supply store, to guide us through a mini-PhD on Korean hair, the Black hair market, and Cold War commodity history. Then, a brief look at the ongoing democratic uprising in Thailand. 0:00 – HAIR! * The New York Times’s coverage of the Na fam...

Abolishing Silicon Valley: Wendy Liu 16.10.2020

A bonus deep-dive episode into the culture and politics of Big Tech and Silicon Valley! Today Andy chats with the writer Wendy Liu (no relation) about her recent book, Abolish Silicon Valley . A programmer, former Google intern, and startup founder, Wendy has written on a host of political-economic questions swirling around Silicon Valley today: how to organize contract workers in Silicon Valley ;...

SCOTUS trouble, working-class white people, and Taiwan's military 13.10.2020

Hello from the National Speech & Debate Tournament! This week, we unpack the idea of court packing, look for common cause with working-class whites, and ask what’s up with the Taiwanese military.  0:00 – Amy Coney Barrett’s confirmation proceedings began Monday. Will the questioning be more Acoustic Lindsey Graham or Lindsey Graham Unplugged? Inspired by a recent episode of the Dig podcast (Hi, Da...

Trump has Covid! Is the virus totally random? And listener questions. 06.10.2020

Happy belated Mid-Autumn Festival!  We pried Andy away from doomscrolling 45 to bring you this late-night episode of semi-coherent thoughts on the American regime, post-wet market theories of Covid-19, and listener queries on class. 0:00 –  What is, even, anything? The big, maskless T has Covid, as does everyone around him. We talk conspiracies and sad, middling fantasies of functioning government...

"Itaewon Class" and class politics; and what to make of left-wing utopias 29.09.2020

Hello from Andy’s Zoom lecture! This week: the class politics of the Netflix K-drama “Itaewon Class” (이태원 클라쓰), success and failure in leftist utopias, and “slouchy Asian” fashion. 0:00 – Happy Birthday, Mama Kang! Plus: Tammy introduces Andy and Jay to Eileen Fisher. 6:10 – Jay binge-watches (the notably progressive!) “Itaewon Class,” which Tammy inhaled long ago; Andy makes plans to catch...

The 1776 Project, TikTok nationalism, and four listener questions 22.09.2020

Hello from the TTSG drop-out commune! This week, a longer-than-we-intended show about the TikTok saga, Chinese/US hegemony, and nationalist traps. We also respond to a few of your brilliant emails and DMs. 0:00 – Jay explains his obsession with the history of Jonestown, and we toss around a few theories of left (and right) millenarianisms. 5:30 – After all Trump’s blather about security, TikTok, U...

From 9/11 to 45: How Will We Remember Trump, USA? 15.09.2020

Whither memory: Guantanamo W. Bush paints over his legacy. Hello from the future! Inspired (triggered?) by last week’s commemorations of 9/11, we get a bit contemplative. How will future generations remember (or suppress) the events of the Trump era, especially the mass death of Covid-19? We discuss state-sanctioned memory in the US and China, how Trump has effectively rehabilitated George W. Bush...

Race Fakes, Disparity Discourse, and Mulan in Xinjiang 08.09.2020

Greetings from Jay’s 95-degree basement! This week, we start, inevitably, with our takes on Jessica Krug, the historian caught assuming a series of brown and Black identities. We then respond to a provocation by Adolph Reed and Walter Benn Michaels : that talk of racial disparities distracts from the universal thievery of neoliberal capitalism. Finally, we dig into the live-action remake of Mulan...

Basketball Revolution? Plus Death and Fear in Kenosha and Portland 01.09.2020

Greetings from our virtual union hall!  This week, we talk protest and death in Kenosha, Wisconsin, and Portland, Oregon, and consider what to make of the longstanding, but local, street confrontations between the far right and “Antifa.” We then turn to the recent NBA players’ boycott(?) / strike(?) / demonstration(?): What does it mean, in labor terms? Why do we get so excited about bajillionaire...

'Racial disparity' and 'race vs. class' debates: historian Merlin Chowkwanyun 28.08.2020

Hi everyone: Today we’re presenting a conversation between myself (Andy) and my college friend Merlin Chowkwanyun , assistant professor of sociomedical sciences at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health.  For years I’ve peppered Merlin with questions about how to understand the never-ending debate over “race versus class” in the US -- for instance, this New York Times piece from two...

AOC at the DNC, WeChat, and Right-Wing Asians 25.08.2020

Hello from behind the Great Firewall! As summer winds down and election season begins to heat up, we reflect on the political prospects of Asian America and the mess that is the Democratic Party. We discuss AOC’s speech at the DNC last week as evidence that the party has lost the thread. We then examine Trump’s WeChat ban and the many uses of this Chinese super app. This leads to a concluding conv...

Ethnic Studies, Revolutionary Politics, and the Third World Liberation Front with Viet Thanh Nguyen 20.08.2020

Hello! We’re very excited to have Pulitzer Prize winner and Macarthur Genius Grant recipient Viet Thanh Nguyen on the show. There was a lot to discuss and a lengthy conversation that I (Jay) found absolutely fascinating about the role of academia, especially during a time of national protests. A lot of history in this one as well — if you didn’t know about AAPA and Third World Liberation Front, th...

Oh, Kamala!: Harris’s Identity in 3 Acts, Affirmative Action, and the Postal Service 17.08.2020

In a late-Sunday-night mega-recording session, we discuss the big news of the past week: Kamala Harris, the first major vice presidential candidate who’s Black, Asian American, and a woman. Commentators have tried to pick apart her identity from countless angles: Is she Black enough ? Indian enough ? Caribbean enough ? An Asian-immigrant icon? In other words, the kind of juicy s**t you KNOW your p...

"Indian Matchmaking," BAME, and Portland Whiteness with Historian Radhika Natarajan 14.08.2020

In this episode, Tammy gabs with her old friend Radhika Natarajan, a professor of history at Reed College and low-key brilliant TV critic. Radhika talks about her childhood in Ohio, her parents’ emigration from Tamil Nadu (relevant spoiler: an arranged Brahmin marriage), and her scholarly work on post-colonial migration, citizenship, and multiculturalism in Britain. (Bonus: BAME = POC/BIPOC?) She...

An Intricate Castle of Good Intentions: ‘Nice White Parents,’ Historians vs. Journalists, and AsAm Christianity 11.08.2020

Hello from the ledge of cancellation!  We have some heady stuff for you this week—on school segregation, the perennial struggle between historians and journalists, and religiosity in Asian America.  0:40 – After a quick update on Tammy’s new life of canoeing in Missoula, Jay describes his roundtrip between Berkeley and Whidbey Island, when he listened to the newest, most Upper West Side podcast ev...

Trump 'bans' TikTok, the NBA Bubble protests, and teaching during COVID-19 04.08.2020

Hello from three time zones!  This week, we mull the Covid-era classroom (fears of contagion and falling behind), the meaning of Trump’s attack on TikTok, Nike-brand kneeling (and not kneeling) in the NBA bubble, and universalism and particularism in the Black Lives Matter uprising. 1:40 – Will Tammy find an Oriental market in Missoula? How does Andy plan to teach through his screen? What will be...

Food and Gender on Asian American TikTok, Portland’s White Protests, and Good Identity Politics 28.07.2020

你好 from cyberspace!  This week, Jay scuba dived the depths of Asian American TikTok to engage Andy and Tammy in a critique of gendered home-cooking videos . How far have we really come? We then get a bit more serious, with a discussion of the continuing Black Lives Matter protests in downtown Portland and lessons in coalition-building from the 1970s Combahee River Collective .  4:10 – TikTok Coo...

Lilith Fair, MOMTIFA, Ross Douthat on white fragility, and Tammy's "Transnationally Asian" article 22.07.2020

Hello from 1997!  This week, we start by crate-digging our souls, with a discussion of Lilith Fair-era feminist (and feminine?) music. We then ponder the ongoing Black Lives Matter rebellion in Portland , an op-ed on “white fragility” and its race-baiting subconscious by the country’s most lucid Catholic conservative, and what it means to be (or cosplay being) “transnationally Asian .” 2:22 – Jay...

Darren Byler on the Uyghur people of Xinjiang, China 17.07.2020

Credit: Carolyn Drake Hello from the greater Sea-Tac area! Andy and Tammy here with a bonus episode, interviewing Darren Byler, a postdoctoral researcher at the University of Colorado and an expert on the Uyghur people, a Muslim community in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region in Northwest China.  Darren’s years of anthropological research in Xinjiang will be published in a forthcoming book titl...

Harper's, Boba Bros, Korean Feminism, and the NBA bubble 15.07.2020

Hello from our galaxy brain!     This week, we begin with a brief chat about (social) media “cancel culture,” based on an open letter recently published in Harper ’s . We then discuss a workplace controversy at the Boba Guys chain; the suicide of the mayor of Seoul, Park Won-soon, and what his death means in the context of South Korean feminism , per Tammy’s reporting; and a telling exchange about...

Trump’s Ban on International Students, Latinx Recognition in Black Lives Matter, and Listener Questions 08.07.2020

Greetings from our USB microphones!   In this episode, we discuss ICE’s recent rule prohibiting international students from staying in the U.S. if their colleges go fully online. We also dig into questions of cross-race solidarity in the Black Lives Matter movement, especially regarding Latinx/brown communities. Finally, we answer our first sampling of listener questions.  As always, thank you for...

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