Time To Say Goodbye

Time To Say Goodbye

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A podcast about politics, culture, fishing, surfing and some other stuff with Jay Caspian Kang and Tyler Austin Harper goodbye.substack.com

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Jul 8, 2026

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Depoliticization, Identity Politics and Protest with Asad Haider 09.04.2021

Hello! Today’s subscriber episode is a wide-ranging conversation Asad Haider, one of the founding editors of Viewpoint Magazine and the author of Mistaken Identity: Race and Class in the Age of Trump . Jay talked to Asad about his concept of “depoliticization,” his book on identity politics, and political exhaustion. *- note from Jay: When we started the podcast, Asad was at the top of the list of...

How not to think like a cop, with Naomi Murakawa 06.04.2021

Hello from Jay’s backyard Easter egg hunt! It’s just Andy and Tammy this week, with special guest Naomi Murakawa , a professor of African American Studies at Princeton and the author of The First Civil Right: How Liberals Built Prison America . Naomi talks with us about her J-A roots in Oakland , how her dad’s career in the criminal-legal system got her thinking about carceral politics, why police...

CROSSOVER EPISODE with The Dig! 01.04.2021

Hello! This week, your intrepid hosts had the pleasure to speak with journalist Daniel Denvir and his podcast “The Dig,” with Jacobin Radio. Daniel engaged us on a number of topics we’ve touched upon recently, including: the Atlanta shootings and the question of anti-Asian violence; the connection between anti-China foreign policy and domestic anti-Asian racism; the potential for an Asian backlash...

Interpreting the Atlanta massacre 23.03.2021

Hello at the end of a sleepless week. In this episode, we analyze the many responses to the murders in Atlanta — in a spirit, of course, of solidarity. Should the murders be viewed as a white-supremacist hate crime ? An occasion for more policing ? Or less? Are we guilty of assimilating the Atlanta shootings to general headlines about anti-Asian racism? Do we risk losing the specificity of class,...

"I want you to care when people are still alive": Yves Tong Nguyen of Red Canary Song 19.03.2021

In light of the harrowing news out of Atlanta this week, we spoke with Yves Tong Nguyen , an organizer with Red Canary Song 红莺歌 ( @RedCanarySong ), a grassroots collective of Asian sex workers & allies who push for for migrant justice, labor rights, and full decriminalization.  Extended show notes after the break. First, here are some groups to learn about and support: * Red Canary Song, New Yo...

A very good recovery plan and one year since lockdown 16.03.2021

Happy belated Pi Day (3.14)!* * Also Stephen Curry’s birthday and the anniversary of Marx’s death ! (Guess who’s drafting today’s notes?) 0:00 – Seth Berkman’s NYT article on Subway product placements in K-dramas ( don’t forget: Subway is evil !), Fatima Bhutto’s book on non-Western entertainment gone global, and whether Taylor Swift listens to BTS. 16:00 – The $1.9 trillion “American Recovery Pla...

Loving Guam, fighting empire with Julian Aguon 09.03.2021

Hello from the imperial U.S.A.! Our special guest this week is the CHamoru activist attorney and writer Julian Aguon . Julian calls in from Guam to talk about his new book, The Properties of Perpetual Light , which comes out at the end of the month. ( Pre-order it for you and a friend!) Julian reads from the book and talks about:  * Developing his voice as a writer and mixing genres: from poetry t...

The real history of "comfort women" 02.03.2021

We discuss the unfolding row over an academic article by Harvard law professor Mark Ramseyer, who argues, without evidence, that “comfort women” across Asia were not coercively indentured by the Japanese imperial army in World War II, but had legally consented to sex work. (For background on this debate, check out Tammy’s paper from 2006! ) Though typically irrelevant to the rest of society (lol),...

A Russian doll of cancellations, "Minari," and listener questions 23.02.2021

Hello from a Chinese banquet! (If only…) 0:00 - “ 주먹만한 얼굴 ” (tiny face obsession) 2:48 – Reply All We discuss the story buzzing throughout media: the hosts of the Reply All podcast, while reporting on the exploitative labor practices at Bon Appétit , had their own exploitative, anti-union activism exposed last week. What does this say about class versus race politics and the unionization mov...

TikTok fame, Asian hip-hop, and culture "gentrification" with Jaeki Cho 19.02.2021

Hello! Special unlocked bonus Patreon episode today with entrepreneur, TikTok cook, and hip-hop head Jaeki Cho. He and Jay talk about Jaeki’s quick rise to TikTok fame via his Korean cooking videos, Asian-American hip-hop in the 90s and 00s, and the ways in which immigrants acquire, imitate and then incorporate language. You can find Jaeki’s TikTok here. And a Friday throwback video for all of you...

Working women's rage, more on the street violence in Oakland, and East vs. West Coast Asians 16.02.2021

Hello from the angry depths of our work-from-home souls! This Valentine’s Day week: 0:00 – Big, hearty thanks for subscribing and supporting us through our Patreon . Don’t miss the raucous Discord chat or bonus episodes with Anakwa Dwamena and Jiayang Fan. 4:40 – Why are women shouldering the extra work of the pandemic? Why are they the first to lose their jobs and get stuck with multiplying jobs...

Xinjiang on Clubhouse and listener questions! 09.02.2021

Hello! This week, fabulous guest Darren Byler. Plus, three questions from our very smart listeners. 0:00 – Friend of the show Darren Byler returns (don’t miss his earlier episode, from July, where he discusses his research on Xinjiang with Tammy and Andy ) to reflect on what he (and Andy) heard on Mandarin Clubhouse over the weekend. There was a brief burst of discussion among Mandarin speakers of...

Casino capitalism and racialized school reopenings. And the new TTSG Patreon! 02.02.2021

Good snowy morning from Andy and Tammy, while Jay wears shorts! This week, we talk about cultures of luck, public schools, tankieism, Myanmar, and Corky Lee. 2:15 – Andy explains the freaky, punny “Bling Empire.” 12:12 – Our inevitable takes on GameStop, Robinhood, and the global, neoliberal casino of our financial system. For more: stories by Noah Kulwin , Kate Aronoff , and Doug Henwood . Andy r...

Bonus ep: representation politics, at Philly's Asian Arts Initiative with Bakirathi Mani and Anne Ishii 29.01.2021

Bonus ep! This past week, the Asian Arts Initiative in Philly (AAI) hosted a short conversation about the question of representation in media and politics. AAI’s exec. director Anne Ishii ( @ill_iterate ) MCed the event, which featured myself (Andy) and Bakirathi Mani , a fellow academic in the region (Swarthmore college, check out her new book Unseeing Empire , with the discount code E20EMPR). We...

Kimchi nationalism, Biden on immigration and foreign policy, and Desi identities with Rozina Ali 26.01.2021

Hi from Obama’s third term! This week, we welcome the wonderful, brainy Rozi Ali , a journo friend who writes about Islamophobia and the US “war on terror.” We also dish about basketball and a kimchi-based spat between South Korea and China. 1:10 – Why Rozi gave up on the Warriors. 3:35 – Korea and China are fighting again. Over kimchi . Not sponsored content: the offending Li Ziqi video (kimchi a...

"That identity s**t, that’s old news, man": belated Capitol takes + "Chan is Missing" with Hua Hsu 19.01.2021

Greetings from the deep state in our heads! This week, we talk some oldish politics (January is moving so fast…) and welcome back our first repeat guest, Hua Hsu, to dig into classic Asian-American cinema. 0:00 – Andrew Yang is running for mayor of New York City. Last we saw him, he was buying Ito En green tea at a bodega and calling the worker “bro.” 8:20 – The better Asian Andrew, our Andy, wrot...

Vaxx dreams; American decline vs. Chinese ambition; and 2020 favs 05.01.2021

This week’s theme, courtesy of Tony Soprano: “Is the U.S. over?” Both Tammy and Jay have new pieces out on our failure to curb the spread of Covid-19 in nursing homes. The country has seemed unable to tackle complex problems. Have we learned anything? What now? 0:00 – We talk about the vaccine rollout in the U.S. and our ominously poor start to distribution. Tammy hates on federalism and the State...

Working-class unity with organizer JoAnn Lum; plus, listener Qs on the diversity labyrinth 28.12.2020

HNY from the heart of Times Square! 0:00 – This week, we welcome JoAnn Lum , the director of NMASS (the National Mobilization Against Sweatshops) , a “multi-trade, multi-ethnic workers center” located on the Lower East Side of Manhattan. Though COVID-19 has recently shone a light on horrifying working conditions in healthcare, nursing homes, restaurants, and delivery, JoAnn describes how “essentia...

Scenes from the Culture War: Tommy Craggs 21.12.2020

0:00 — We welcome friend of the show Tommy Craggs, enterprise editor at Mother Jones magazine. We first get Tommy’s thoughts on last summer’s inadvertent strike in the NBA and assess the future of our favorite beleaguered sports league. 25:10 — We discuss Tommy’s new piece, “What’s the Matter with Cultural Politics?,” in which he interrogates the “culture contra” stalemate: the idea that what the...

Lux magazine and lockdowns with Sarah Leonard 15.12.2020

Today, Doctors Liu, Kang, and Kim are joined by Doctor Sarah Leonard , publisher of the soon-to-launch Lux magazine (named after socialist extraordinaire Rosa Luxemburg ). 0:00 – We respond to accusations of COVID-19 denialism by comparing the US’s lockdown + welfare policies to those of the rest of the (Euro-American) world: Tammy on Canada’s robust wage subsidy and deficit spending ; Andy on Swe...

Filipino nurses and "Better Luck Tomorrow" 08.12.2020

Hello from Neera Tanden’s shoe closet! 0:00 – The gang’s back together, with geographic and pandemic updates. 10:00 – Data recently compiled by National Nurses United tell us that nearly a quarter of registered nurses in the US who’ve died from the coronavirus are Filipino. Why this outsized fraction ? Can histories of colonization and migration, as well as labor economics, help us make sense of t...

The Asian American voter with Professor Taeku Lee 01.12.2020

Hello! This week we have another part of what can now be called a series on the AAPI voter with our guest Taeku Lee, a professor of law and political science at UC Berkeley and the author of several books, including Asian American Political Participation , which he co-authored with Janelle Wong, S. Karthick Ramakrishnan, and Jane Junn. There’s few people more qualified to talk about the enigma of...

Vaccine apartheid, tankies redux, and the TTSG manifesto 24.11.2020

Happy birthday, Jay’s sister! Tammy checks in from a motel in Kennewick , Jay remembers his lost novel, and we talk turkey.  8:30 – On the global vaccine race. The “good” science ( from Sarah Zhang ), the “bad” vaccine apartheid ( Jayati Ghosh , economist at JNU), Macbook vs. Chromebook, and the politics of glorifying private drug companies ( as in the NYT ). Also, check out this cool new vaccine...

Asians are white again, pandemic rage, what to expect from Biden, and mega free trade 17.11.2020

Hello from White House transition headquarters! This week: literal housekeeping, “ students of color ” and “ students of poverty ,” coronavirus nightmares , how not to expect too much from Biden , and a Southeast Asian trade deal . 4:30 – Dads Jay and Andy review right-wing children’s books . 9:30 – Asians get lumped in as white again—this time, in the Thurston County, WA public schools. Why does...

The history of Filipino DJ culture in the Bay Area with Oliver Wang 12.11.2020

Hello, Today we have something a bit different for you. TTSG goes a bit Melvyn Bragg with a history episode about Bay Area Filipino DJ culture. Our guest today is Oliver Wang, professor of sociology at Cal State Long Beach, one of the co-hosts of the Heat Rocks podcast , and the author of Legions of Boom , a fascinating book which tracks the history of Filipino immigrants into the Bay Area after t...

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