This vs. That

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the important distinction between practical theology and prideful theology with guest Wendy Alsup, author and math professor. We discuss how true theology should lead to humility and practical life changes, while examining why theological discussions sometimes become prideful and condescending. Through personal stories and biblical wisdom, we unpack how...

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the complex relationship between neglecting and embracing emotions with Joe Hussung, Director of Ministry Partnership and Senior Counselor at Fieldstone Counseling . Our conversation examines the role of emotions in the Christian life, cultural differences in emotional expression, and how the Bible speaks to our emotional experiences. Joe brings unique...

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the fascinating topic of good stress versus bad stress with our guest Eliza Huie, Director of Counseling at McLean Bible Church and biblical counseling instructor at Reform Theological Seminary. We discuss how certain types of stress can actually be beneficial for growth and motivation, while other forms can be detrimental to our wellbeing. Drawing from...

On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Robert Cheong, founder of Gospel Care Ministries and former pastor of care at Sojourn Church Midtown. We explore the critical distinction between normal ministry tiredness and burnout, discussing how we can recognize the signs when regular exhaustion begins shifting toward burnout. Drawing from his extensive pastoral experience, Robert shares valu...

On this episode of This vs. That, we sit down with Toni Collier, founder of Broken Crayons Still Color . We explore the powerful contrast between hiding vs. healing, as Toni shares her journey from a challenging childhood to becoming an author and speaker. We discuss what it truly means to heal, the importance of being honest with our pain, and how we can find hope and security in Christ even when...

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the fascinating tension between fear of man and fear of God with special guest Ed Welch and guest co-host Jonathan Holmes, Executive Director of Fieldstone Counseling. We trace Ed's journey of writing his influential book "When People Are Big and God Is Small," which began as a response to the codependency movement of the 1980s. Through our conversation...

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Ginny Owens, a talented singer-songwriter, author, and Director of Worship Arts and Community Engagement in New York City. We explore the intriguing topic of Seeing vs. Believing through the unique perspective of Ginny, who lost her eyesight at the age of three. We discuss how Ginny's experience of blindness has shaped her faith journey and her unde...

On this episode of This vs. That, we have a captivating conversation with Jonathan Holmes, the Executive Director of Fieldstone Counseling and a visiting professor at CCEF and Westminster Theological Seminary. We discuss the topic of modern identity versus gospel identity, a central theme in his upcoming book, Grounded in Grace, which helps kids build their identity in Christ. We explore the disti...

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome our good friend Jeff Dalrymple, founder and executive director of the Evangelical Council for Abuse Prevention and Lumino Global , as well as chairman of Anchored Hope's board of directors. Jeff joins us to discuss the topic of stewardship versus complacency. We explore what it means to be a faithful steward of God's gifts in every area of life...

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Rush Witt, the lead pastor of Paramount Church in Bexley, Ohio, and author of "I Want to Escape" and "Die Hard Sins: How to Fight Wisely Against Destructive Daily Habits." Rush joins us to discuss themes from his book, specifically distinguishing destructive habits from everyday sins and how we can combat these issues in our lives. W...

On this episode of This vs. That, we explore the topic of church hurt and discuss when to stay versus when to go. We talk with author and Bible teacher Courtney Reissig about the different perspectives of church hurt—from being a witness in the pews, to causing hurt as a leader, to being the one who is hurt. Courtney shares her personal experiences and insights from nearly 20 years in ministry, hi...

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Alicia Britt Chole, a wife, mother, mentor, and author, known for her unique and refreshing style that connects with people of all ages. We discuss her newest book, "The Night is Normal," and explore the concepts of disillusionment versus reality. Alicia shares her personal story, including how her father's view of questions as sacred shap...

On this episode of This vs. That, we have an engaging conversation with Trevin Wax. Trevin joins us to discuss the nuances between tribal leadership and multi-directional leadership. We explore the differences between leaders who align strictly with a particular group versus those who address challenges from multiple perspectives. Trevin shares insights on why multi-directional leadership is essen...

On this episode of This vs. That, we are joined by Dr. Mike Emlet, a faculty member and counselor at CCEF, who brings his extensive experience and expertise to our discussion. Emlet offers valuable insights into how we can apply the gospel to those grappling with religious scrupulosity, whether in its extreme forms or more common experiences of an oversensitive conscience. We cover the definition...

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Pastor Joby Martin, lead pastor at The Church of Eleven22 in Jacksonville, Florida. Joby shares his journey into ministry, his passion for evangelism, and his drive to reach every tribe, tongue, and nation with the Gospel. In our conversation, we tackle the complex topic of Contentment vs. Satisfaction, exploring what these terms truly mean in a Biblica...

On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Abbey Wedgeworth about exhaustion vs. perseverance. Abbey shares her experiences as a mother of three young boys and a devoted member of her local church. We explore the balance of managing various commitments, how parenting pushes us to our limits, and how that can actually bring us closer to God. Abbey shares her insights into how we can find streng...

In this episode of This vs. That, we welcome back Jeff Dalrymple, the executive director of ⁠ ECAP ⁠ and Chairman of the Board at Anchored Hope, as our guest host. We spend time discussing the core principles of Anchored Hope, focusing on what it means to be both biblically grounded and clinically informed. Available to anyone, anywhere, and anytime, Anchored Hope aims to provide accessible virtua...

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Jeff Dalrymple, the executive director of ECAP and Chairman of the Board at Anchored Hope, as our guest host. We spend time discussing the mission and vision of Anchored Hope, a biblically grounded, clinically informed virtual counseling center. We share the story of our journey, how we began, and how we've grown, highlighting our dedication to maki...

On this episode of This vs. That, we discuss the upcoming auxiliary event at the Gospel Coalition Women's Conference. This special event is held in partnership with Anchored Hope and Fieldstone Counseling, two organizations that share a common goal of providing quality, gospel-centered counseling. In this episode we’ll look at the origins of this collaboration, the benefits of joint efforts, a...

On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with Dr. Russell Moore, the editor in chief of Christianity Today and author of the book Losing Our Religion: an Altercall for Evangelical America . We discuss a variety of topics, from the current state of politics and its impact on the church, to the personal struggles individuals face within this politically charged environment. We also explore the conc...

On this episode of This vs. That, we engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Dani Treweek. Joining us from Sydney, Australia, Dani is a renowned Christian theological researcher, author, speaker, and the founding director of Single Minded Ministry. We discuss her work, which focuses on exploring God's purposes for singleness and equipping Christians. Throughout our discussion, we touch...

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome Tim Challies. Our conversation centers around the challenging and deeply personal topic of grieving with hope versus grieving without hope. We explore how Tim's faith shaped his response to loss, the role of lament in the grieving process, and how to navigate the difficult balance between accepting God's decree and dealing with personal sorrow....

On this episode of This vs. That, we talk with with Mark Vroegop about the concepts of frustration and anger. We explore how these emotions are often intertwined, and how they can be both righteous and unrighteous. Mark shares his experiences at College Park Church in Indianapolis and also provides a glimpse into his personal life. We examine the complexities of these emotions in the context of ou...

On this episode of This vs. That, we have an enriching conversation with John Starke about the importance of balancing talking and listening in prayer. John shares valuable insights from his book, The Possibility of Prayer, and highlights the transformative power of stillness. As we explore the challenges many Christians face with prayer, John explains the significance of allowing our anxieties an...

On this episode of This vs. That, we welcome back Jonathan Holmes, executive director at Fieldstone Counseling. Together, we explore the complex topic of humility versus self-loathing. We examine how these two concepts can often be confused and how this issue frequently arises in counseling. Jonathan offers insightful responses to challenging questions about self-esteem, self-care, and humility, a...