This View of Life
This View of Life
This View of Life takes a deep dive with the best and brightest thinkers on anything and everything from an evolutionary perspective. TVOL is a product of the non-profit ProSocial World and hosted by co-founder and President David Sloan Wilson.
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Feb 23, 2026
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Evolving Cooperative Systems: The Case of Housing and Homelessness 23.02.2026 1:21:24
Homelessness is a wicked problem in its own right and is connected to the larger problem of affordable housing, which affects everyone but the wealthy. Even though these problems are complex, they are not incomprehensible. Join David Sloan Wilson for a conversation with Rosanne Haggerty, whose organization Community Solutions has had remarkable success solving the homelessness problem in communit...
Evolving Complex Systems in Seattle and Beyond, with Marina Alberti 23.02.2026 1:05:29
How can cities deliver on their ambitious agendas? In conversation with David Sloan Wilson, Marina Alberti is a true pioneer of adopting a new perspective based on a combination of complex systems science and evolutionary science. She is Professor of Urban and Environmental Planning at the University of Washington and author of Cities that Think Like Planets: Complexity, Resilience, and Innovatio...
Evolution's Rainbow, Revisited: Sex, Gender, and Evolution 25.11.2025 1:02:16
Nature doesn't draw straight lines, and neither should we. In this special conversation, evolutionary biologist Joan Roughgarden and geneticist Nathan Lents explore how sex and gender diversity shape life itself - from fish that swap roles to humans who defy binary boxes. They'll unpack why variation isn't an exception in nature but one of its greatest strengths, and how embracing that truth can t...
The Evolution of Place: How Environments Shape Us 27.10.2025 1:24:18
What if your neighborhood is quietly shaping your stress levels, immune system, and trust in others? In this episode, David Sloan Wilson talks with David McAleavey, Amy Clair, Blair Gross, and Rick O'Gorman about how environmental cues – such as order, greenery, and decay – act as signals to our brains and bodies. From the Generalized Unsafety Theory of Stress to the Social Baseline Theory, we exp...
Evolving Prosocial AI: A conversation with Peter Fenton and David Sloan Wilson 22.10.2025 1:04:03
Artificial intelligence is evolving faster than most of us can think about it—but few of its creators understand evolution itself. Venture capitalist Peter Fenton joins evolutionary biologist David Sloan Wilson for a wide-ranging conversation about how evolution and artificial intelligence might shape each other. Fenton, a central figure in the AI startup world and a lifelong student of philosoph...
Forever Green: Building a cooperative innovation platform for diversification in Midwest agriculture with Nick Jordan & Whitney Clark 23.09.2025 1:00:36
David Sloan Wilson speaks with Professor Nick Jordan and Whitney Clark, Executive Director of Friends of the Mississippi River, about their work on the Forever Green Initiative – a regional effort to scale regenerative agriculture in the Upper Midwest. They reflect on seven years of cross-sector collaboration to develop new crops and farming systems, and how their partnership with ProSocial Worl...
The Science of Imagined Worlds: Evolution and Ecology for World Builders - A conversation between Carlo Maley, Vaughn Aktipis-Maley & David Sloan Wilson 22.08.2025 1:21:21
Join David Sloan Wilson in conversation with Carlo Maley and Vaughn Aktipis-Maley as they explore how evolutionary science can inspire deeper, more internally consistent worldbuilding. Based on their recent publication Evolution and Ecology for World Builders , this episode blends fantasy storytelling with real-world biology to ask: What makes a creature believable? What makes a society work? And...
Shaping AI for Good: Prosocial Hybrid Intelligence for a Thriving Future - A conversation between Cornelia Walther and David Sloan Wilson 27.06.2025 1:18:14
AI is no longer a distant future - it's shaping our lives right now. But what if we could design it not just to be smart, but to be good ? In this powerful conversation, Cornelia Walther and evolutionary biologist David Sloan Wilson explore how we can build AI systems that truly serve people and the planet. They dive into the concept of Prosocial AI , technology that's designed to support human...
Democracy's Deep Roots: From Hunter-Gatherers to Modern Society -- A conversation between Vivek Venkataraman and David Sloan Wilson 02.06.2025 1:19:12
What if the roots of democracy run far deeper than ancient Greece or Enlightenment Europe, but back to our evolutionary origins as humans? In this thought-provoking conversation, evolutionary anthropologist Vivek Venkataraman and renowned scientist David Sloan Wilson dig into how early human societies, particularly hunter-gatherers, managed to balance individual freedom with the needs of the group...
Decolonizing Ecology: Rethinking Nature in a Broken World 02.05.2025 1:19:48
A conversation between Madhusudan Katti and Amitangshu Acharya Join us for a thought-provoking virtual dialogue exploring how colonial worldviews have shaped modern ecology - and what it means to decolonize our relationship with nature in an era of social and environmental upheaval. Building on themes from the This View of Life series "Decolonizing Science" , ecologist Madhusudan Katti and writer...
Addressing the Wicked Problem of Housing Insecurity in Binghamton New York with Rebecca Rathmell 01.04.2025 1:03:13
Originally published on September 9, 2024
Hunter-Gatherer Societies, Human Origins, and Modern Democracies with Vivek Venkataraman (Part 1) 01.04.2025 1:17:21
Originally published on January 8, 2025. Hunter-gatherer societies are fascinating in their own right and--with appropriate caution--a major source of insight about our ancestral past, stretching back to our origin as a species. Remarkably, hunter-gatherer societies also have much to teach us about modern Democratic governance. Vivek Venkataraman is an idea guide to this subject, with a background...
Hunter-Gatherer Societies, Human Origins, and Modern Democracies with Vivek Venkataraman (Part 2) 01.04.2025 1:30:15
Hunter-gatherer societies are fascinating in their own right and--with appropriate caution--a major source of insight about our ancestral past, stretching back to our origin as a species. Remarkably, hunter-gatherer societies also have much to teach us about modern Democratic governance. Vivek Venkataraman is an idea guide to this subject, with a background in philosophy, primatology, and human ev...
Barry-Wehmiller's Bold Experiment in Prosocial Cultural Evolution 01.04.2025 1:33:44
Who is Barry-Wehmiller (BW)? Not a person, but a manufacturing corporation and star attraction of the Conscious Capitalism movement . If you are familiar with this movement, you might have read Everybody Matters: The Extraordinary Power of Caring for Your People Like Family , by CEO Bob Chapman and Raj Sisodia , co-founder of the Conscious Capitalism movement. Or perhaps a Harvard Business Sc...
Evolving Prosocial Cities, with Jonathan Rose 01.04.2025 1:12:04
Few people know more about cities than Jonathan Rose, author of The Well-Tempered City: What Modern Science, Ancient Civilizations, and Human Nature Teach Us About the Future of Urban Life . Jonathan is a practitioner in addition to a scholar. His urban development company is at the forefront of "building wellbeing through communities of opportunity". In our conversation, we discuss how two bodi...
Conscious Capitalism Viewed Through The Lens of a New Paradigm with Bob Chapman & Raj Sisodia 01.04.2025 51:56
Conscious capitalism is well known as a business movement that goes against almost everything that is taught in business school. However, the same movement makes perfect sense when viewed through the lens of a new paradigm for economics and business based on a combination of complex systems science and evolutionary science. I discuss this paradigm shift with two leaders of the Conscious Capitalism...
A Theory of Everyone as a New Paradigm with Michael Muthukrishna and David Sloan Wilson 01.04.2025 1:10:08
Michael Muthukrishna's new book A Theory of Everyone is the latest in a lineage of authors that include Peter Richerson and Robert Boyd ( Culture and the Evolutionary Process , Not By Genes Alone ) and Joseph Henrich ( Secret of Our Success , WEIRDest People in the World ). All of them illustrate what I call completing the Darwinian revolution in my own book This View of Life . In this podca...
Assessing the Complexity/Evolution Paradigm for Economics with Eric Beinhocker 01.04.2025 36:53
The first book-length articulation of an economic paradigm based on complex systems science and evolutionary science was Eric Beinhocker's The Origin of Wealth , published in 2006. He is currently Professor of Public Policy Practice at Oxford's Blavatnik School of Government and Executive Director of INET Oxford . Eric joins me to assess progress during the last 18 years and prospects for the f...
Updating Darwin and Tocqueville on Self Interest, Rightly Understood, with Robert Putnam 01.04.2025 43:05
In 1831, two youths embarked upon voyages that would change the way that we view the world today. The first was Charles Darwin and the second was Alexis de Tocqueville. Both addressed the nature of competition, cooperation, and community in ways that are highly relevant to the social dilemmas facing us today. Join the legendary Robert Putnam and me as we update these pioneers on what Tocqueville...
Wicked Problems and How To Solve Them with Guru Madhavan 01.04.2025 1:02:16
Guru Madhavan is Norman R. Augustine Senior Scholar, Senior Director of Programs, and Director of the Forum on Complex Unifiable Systems (FOCUS) at the US National Academy of Engineering. His new book is on how to solve wicked problems anywhere, but it is also rooted in a particular place--Binghamton, New York--where Guru did his graduate training at Binghamton University and where we first met a...
Depolarizing Economic Theory and Practice with Paul Dragos Aligica 01.04.2025 1:07:53
In my writing on generalized Darwinism as a new paradigm for economics and public policy, I stress that it doesn't fall into any current ideological camp. It isn't left, right, or libertarian and draws upon the valid elements of all three. This conversation with the political economist and social philosopher Paul Dragos Aligica illustrates what I mean. Paul is KPMG Professor of Governance at the U...
Announcing a New Paradigm for Economics and Beyond with Dennis Snower and David Sloan Wilson Video 26.08.2024 35:01
Is it time to fundamentally rethink economics - its theoretical foundations, activities and processes; its purpose and goals? How should we reimagine and redesign our economic models to better reflect and serve human needs and wants, and the flourishing of all life on our one planet? It is often said that the world faces challenges that are complex and systemic. But in fact, the world is a com...
Anti-Trust From a Multilevel Evolutionary Perspective with Denise Hearn 15.03.2023 1:01:25
Increasingly, policymakers, investors, and advocates recognize that the neoliberal theory of economic organization – laissez faire – is a failed experiment. However, certain areas of law – particularly antitrust law are still beholden to false econometric notions about how markets operate, which influences legal interpretation, case precedent, and ongoing debates about reviving antitrust's role in...
What Happened to Selfish Genes? with J. Arvid Agren 20.10.2022 1:43:22
J. Arvid Agren's book The Gene's Eye View of Evolution (Oxford University Press, 2021), is a highly praised scholarly account of the concept of selfish genes, which Richard Dawkins made hugely popular in 1976. Dawkins himself calls Agren's book "the most thorough reading of the relevant literature that I have ever encountered...he gets it right." But what does this mean? In this nearly two hour...
No Best Way, with Stephen Colarelli and Max Beilby 16.08.2021 1:24:09
Max Beilby and Steve Colarelli discuss the application of evolutionary psychology to Human Resource Management. They cover Steve's academic career, and his books No Best Way: An Evolutionary Perspective on Human Resource Management and The Biological Foundations of Organizational Behavior ( which Steve co-edited with his colleague Richard Arvey). They also explore the impacts of the coronavir...
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