Third Party Therapy

What does a successful TPRM transformation actually look like — and why do so many organisations get it wrong? Mike sits down with Chloe Dellow , TPRM and GRC specialist at Diligent , who brings nearly eight years of experience helping organisations build, mature and optimise their third party risk programmes. Chloe offers a frank, experience-led perspective on why technology should enable a well-...

In this episode of Third Party Therapy, Mike Day is joined by Dave Rusher , Chief Customer Officer at Aravo , one of the longest-standing dedicated TPRM technology platforms. With 15 years at Aravo and decades of experience across the Americas, UK, Europe and Asia-Pacific, Dave brings a genuinely global perspective on how third party risk management has evolved — and where it still has growing up...

How do you build a supply chain that doesn't just survive disruption but thrives through it? Mike Day is joined by Professor Richard Wilding OBE , Emeritus Professor of Supply Chain Strategy, to bridge the gap between academic theory and frontline risk management. Professor Wilding shares his expert perspective on why the "Cost to Serve" must be applied to risk, how to segment vendors effectively,...

Is the pace of change in Third-Party Risk Management (TPRM) keeping up with the complexities of the modern marketplace? In this episode of Third Party Therapy , Mike Day sits down with Clarence Chio , founder of Coverbase . Clarence, a Stanford-trained engineer and cybersecurity veteran, shares his unique perspective on the "assessor fatigue" felt by both sides of the table. They dive deep into ho...

Episode Summary: How do you build a world-class Third-Party Risk Management (TPRM) function in a digital-first, fast-paced environment? In this episode of Third Party Therapy , Mike Day sits down with Mo Randeree from Atom Bank . Mo shares his journey from a PwC auditor to a TPRM leader, discussing how to break down the traditional silos between Procurement, Risk, and Resilience. The highlight of...

Beyond Third Parties: Mapping Fourth-Party Risk and Early-Stage Suppliers – with Layla White ( TechPassport ) Episode overview Season 2 opens with a practical deep dive into one of the hardest problems in modern third-party risk management: understanding what sits beyond your immediate suppliers. Mike is joined by Layla White, founder of TechPassport, to unpack why fourth- and fifth-party dependen...

Great conversation with Robert Hannigan from Blue Voyant , former Director of GCHQ and author of " Counter Intelligence - What The Secret World Can Teach Us About Problem Solving & Creativity ". Talking about the business model of cyber crime, how companies can protect themselves and the role of the human in combatting the cyber criminal.

A great conversation with Charlie Lewis from McKinsey exploring the cyber risk that develops from a complex supply chain and how companies can take a business focussed approach to risk management Read Charlie's article on Taking a business-critical approach to supplier nth-party IT risk management Distributed in conjunction with CEFPRO Connect

Third Party Therapy – Episode 13 AI Unleashed: Transforming Third-Party Risk Guest: Natalie Druckmann , Head of EMEA at Certa Host: Mike Day Episode Summary How is artificial intelligence reshaping third-party risk management? In this episode, Mike Day speaks with Natalie Druckmann from Certa, exploring how AI can transform due diligence, regulatory compliance, and supplier oversight. Natalie shar...

Join me in a conversation with Dharminder Mehmi from Legal & General as we explore regulation in the UK Finance sector, the experience of moving from the regulator to the regulated and how regulation may develop in the future. Distributed with support from CEFPRO Connect

I get to explore my TPRM nerdy side with Harj Mattu from Deloitte as we explore the world of TPRM technology. Who are the big players, who are the new entrants bringing something difference and our favourite topic of AI in TPRM. Published in partnership with CEFPRO Connect

A conversation with Oliver Jones from H&Z Consulting on the evolution of TPRM from a sub-function of Procurement to a key function on its own with board level focus - how far from Procurement should it go and what are the technology solutions that can help bring them together?

Great conversation with Nathan Hopkins from The ESCROW Company discussing the evolution of ESCROW, how it brings resilience to SaaS solutions and what happens when you invoke it

A great conversation with WIll Cooke and Jack Birch from Procurement Heads on the shortage of good TPRM talent, barriers to entry, how companies are recruiting and why there are no 12 year olds wanting to get into TPRM.

Join me in a conversation with Charlie Jones from Reversing Labs to talk about the limitations of traditional cyber controls, a new approach to testing - Static Binary Analysis - and the impact of recent regulations.

Great conversation with Stephen Boyer - Chief Innovation Officer and co-founder of Bitsight about the growth of the cyber threat and how TPRM can use data to dynamically monitor this risk.

Ian Ellis | The Emerging Tech companies view of TPRM Episode Summary: What does your Third-Party Risk Management (TPRM) process look like from the other side of the table? In this episode of Third Party Therapy , Mike Day is joined by Ian Ellis , an innovation expert who has spent years working with Microsoft for Startups and various tech accelerators. Ian shares the "bruising" reality of how emer...

A great conversation with an ex-colleague of mine from Zurich Insurance . Gemma Stewart has been designing and evolving their approach to concentration risk for a number of years and she joins me on the podcast to share that experience on what to do and what not to do...

Aki Eldar | Using AI to Solve the TPRM Data Overload Episode Summary: The volume of data in Third-Party Risk Management has become unmanageable for manual teams. In this episode of Third Party Therapy , Mike Day sits down with Aki Eldar , founder of Mirato , to discuss how Artificial Intelligence is moving from a "future concept" to a practical tool. Aki explains how AI can automate the heavy lift...

Episode Summary: Modern slavery isn’t just about chains and locks—it’s a hidden, systemic crisis embedded in global supply chains. In this episode of Third Party Therapy , host Mike Day sits down with Shayne Tyler from TylerBladon Practical Ethics , a supply chain expert with 20+ years of experience in worker exploitation. Shayne reveals why traditional audits often fail, how to spot the subtle si...

Third Party Therapy - Series 1, Episode 1 Paul Huggett: What Does Community Due Diligence Deliver? In this debut episode of Third Party Therapy , host Mike Day sits down with Paul Huggett , Managing Director at Hellios and former TPRM lead at major financial institutions like Nationwide and Lloyds Banking Group. Here is the optimized, "copy-paste" set of show notes for Episode 1: Paul Huggett , de...

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