Thereafter

We’re back for yet another episode! This week Cortland and Meghan interview Matt aka @thesnarkygent on Twitter. Matt is a cybersecurity student who grew up inside of Evangelicalism as a homeschooled kid brought up to “lead with biblical values” who has spent the past half-decade deconstructing a ton of the harmful ideas of his upbringing – including a LOT of purity culture and the pervasive sexual...

This week, Meghan and Cortland sit down with Ashley Dunston. Ashley is a novelist, playwright, aspiring cybersecurity professional, ex-vangelical, and proud auntie. This authentic conversation sheds light on the effects of harmful gender and body stereotypes, and the beauty of shedding toxicity and embracing your true self. Make sure you’re following Ashley on Twitter at @ashdunston and Instagram...

On today’s episode, Meghan and Cortland chat with New York Times Bestselling Children’s book author Matthew Paul Turner. In this interview Matthew shares his story of growing up in fundamentalism, discovering Sandi Patty, and starting down the slippery slope of Contemporary Christian Music. Matthew spent years working as a writer in the CCM world as well as writing several Christian books. As his...

Today on the pod we sit down with Tori Williams Douglass. Tori is an anti-racist writer, educator, and podcaster in addition to being one of our favorite follows on Twitter! You may know her as Tori Glass which is her handle on Twitter @ToriGlass and Instagram @ToriGlass .  She hosts the podcasts Go Home Bible, You’re Drunk and White Homework . Tori has created a ton of free anti-racist resou...

Meghan and Cortland are excited to share this interview with Daniel Deitrich. It’s been in the queue awhile but we know you’ll find it worth the wait! Daniel Deitrich is a singer/songwriter based in South Bend, Indiana. After the 2020 election, Daniel released his song, Hymn for the 81% which quickly gained traction online as it resonated with many that were questioning why so many white evangelic...

On today's episode we sit down with Jamie Keaton. Jamie's experience as a Black and non-binary actor, singer, musician, and spoken word poet has been defined by a passion for intersectional feminism, social justice, and advocacy. Jamie asked for us to include these words from Tupac Shakur which are meaningful to Jamie and represent their passion for raising their voice on these topics that are so...

In today’s episode, Janice Lagata becomes the first guest to return to the Thereafter Podcast to talk with Cortland and Meghan about celebrity culture and the perpetuation of whiteness in deconstruction spaces. This is an important conversation and recognition that addressing power, privilege, and inequity isn’t something limited to one or two people in these spaces, but is something we all need t...

Today’s episode features guest Scott Okamoto, former professor at Azusa Pacific University who is currently writing a memoir and hosting a podcast that unpacks his experience as a faculty member at APU. Scott talks about his experience facilitating affinity groups, anti-racism on campus, the treatment of the LGBTQ community, and more. We hope our listeners will check out Scott’s website , and you...

Today Cortland and Meghan sit down with Erin Green. Erin (She/They) is the Campus and Alumni Organizer for REAP. They are an affirming biblical scholar and LGBTQ+ activist. Erin has a Bachelor of Arts in Biblical Studies from Azusa Pacific University and an M.Div. from San Francisco Theological Seminary. Their specialties are in the entire Christian biblical corpus with an emphasis on the Hebrew B...

On today's episode Meghan and Cortland sit down with Daniel M. Lavery on today’s episode of the podcast. Daniel Lavery is the author of Something That May Shock and Discredit You, The Merry Spinster , and Texts From Jane Eyre. He is the co-founder of The Toast and the proprietor of the Chatner newsletter; formerly the Dear Prudence advice columnist at Slate. Daniel talks about his experience growi...

On this BONUS episode, Cortland and Meghan talk through recent conversations about the new version of purity culture, sexual ethics, queer affirmation, and sex positivity. This unique episode doesn’t have a guest interview, but gives our listeners a window into the way we navigate dialogue about ethics and values on the other side of faith change. We know that we are always learning, and we want t...

In today’s episode, Cortland and Meghan talk to artist David Hayward known across the web as "Naked Pastor". After 30 years in the church, he left the ministry to pursue his passion for art. NakedPastor uses words and images to challenge the status quo, deconstruct dogma, and offer hope for those who struggle and suffer under it. David is no stranger to belief systems - he holds a Masters in Theol...

In today’s episode, Cortland and Meghan talk with author Kevin Nye. Kevin works in homeless services and is releasing a book on homelessness and grace in August, 2022.  He sits down with us to tell his story, talk about his work, and give us his perspective on the intersection of faith and justice. You can check out Kevin’s website , sign up for his newsletter , and follow him on Twitter for...

Isaiah Tobias Crum, M.D. is a PGY-1 Psychiatry Resident and host of The Melanated Mindset Podcast (@_MelanatedMind). Isaiah grew up in the church and was the definition of deeply involved. After spending years as a volunteer youth minister and originally pursuing a career in emergency medicine he switched fields of study to psychiatry.  In this episode we talk with Isaiah about his field of study...

Today’s episode features an interview with Annie Rice, an immigration lawyer and alderwoman in St. Louis, MO. Annie joins us to talk about her deconstruction journey and how her desire to get involved in justice led her to the work she does now. Annie also gives us her perspective on abortion legislation that is being passed nationwide, how this legislation impacts what happens in states on a loca...

Today Cortland and Meghan interview Bradley Onishi, co-host of the podcast Straight White American Jesus and professor of Religious Studies at Skidmore College. A TEDx speaker, he has written for the New York Times, Huffpost, Religion & Politics, The LA Review of Books, The Conversation US, Rewire. News , among other outlets. He has appeared on NPR-affiliate programs and nationally ranked podc...

Brian G. Murphy joins Cortland and Meghan for today’s episode of the Thereafter Podcast. Brian is co-host of the Queer Theology Bible Podcast and also the co-founder of queertheology.com . As Brian talks about in this episode, the work of queertheology.com goes beyond defending the right to be gay and Christian, and creates a comprehensive resource that celebrates the divine intersectionality of q...

This week we interview Josh Scott, progressive Christian pastor of Grace Pointe Church in Nashville, TN . Josh talks about how his life as a pastor parallelled his deconstruction, and how ultimately his shifting views brought him to Grace Pointe, a church that is fully LGBTQ affirming and holds space for all travelers no matter where their journey leads them. Josh talks about what church looks lik...

Today we interview Carina from @deconstructingblack and @deconstructingcolors . Carina shares her journey, what led her into faith deconstruction, and the ways in which evangelicalism is intertwined with white supremacy and colonization. Not only does Carina bring her rich wisdom and perspective into this conversation, but she also shares her vision for bringing people together and building commun...

Today we sit down with Tyler Krumland for his podcast debut! We are excited to have Tyler share his story with you. Tyler talks about his experience growing up in the evangelical church, living in a conservative Christian world, and attending North Park Theological Seminary while being gay and closeted. The story of Tyler’s struggle to follow the evangelical “rules” prescribed for him while trying...

Today we get the privilege of sitting down and having a conversation with the one and only Jo Luehmann! Of course we have our normal TwitBits conversation at the beginning of the episode where we talk about the latest buzz on Twitter.  If you'd like to skip straight to the interview feel free to skip ahead to 32:00.  Jo Luehmann (she/her) is a Colombian born and raised pastor, speaker, e...

In this episode we sit down with Jon Steingard. Jon was previously the lead singer of a Christian band called Hawk Nelson, and talks about his experience having his faith identity tied to his career. A little over a year ago, Jon made an Instagram post stating that he no longer believed in God, and saw the reaction on social media from all sides. We talk with Jon about his faith deconstruction, wh...

Welcome back to the Thereafter Podcast! We are so excited to launch Season 2 and also to introduce Meghan Crozier ( @thepursuinglife on Twitter and Instagram) as the new co-host with Cortland Coffey. We take some time at the front of the show to hang out a bit and intro a new segment TwitBits (a working title) that we'll be doing each week here on the show! If you'd rather skip straight to our int...

In our WAY LATE finale episode for season 1 of Thereafter Podcast Cortland and Josh sit down to talk about some of our favorite takeaways from season 1. We also make an announcement about how we are changing up the host lineup for season 2. More announcements about what season 2 will be like coming soon! At one point we mention a "Rich Giles" and second guess if we were getting his name right. Spo...

Today on the pod we sit down with Keylee and Micah Sudduth from Bob Billiams Productions. They are the creative minds behind the Tribeca Film Festival Official Selection digital Series Backsliders as well as the hosts of the Backsliders podcast.  Check out all their projects HERE: BobBilliamsProductions.com