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Today’s episode is one we’ve been excited to release for awhile. Cortland and Meghan chat with Shannon TL Kearns. A former fundamentalist who became the first openly transgender man ordained to the Old Catholic priesthood, Shannon TL Kearns believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning t...

On this episode we chat with Emily Pfenning. Emily is an "almost" Oregon native originally adopted as a baby from India. She works in real estate as the director of operations for a small local team. Emily serves on her office's DEI committee, and several other committees and groups. Outside of the office, she enjoys reading constantly, teaching English through EngIN, leading book groups and works...

In our first episode of the year we sat down (on New Years Eve) with friend of the show and returning guest, Kevin Nye! We discussed a semi viral tweet he had last week, the epic Greta Thunberg take down of Andrew Tate and more. We jump around quite a bit and have quite a bit of nuanced conversation. As always a reminder that much of what we talk about in these segments is us processing through ou...

This week on the pod we sit down with Twitter friend and creator Vy ( https://twitter.com/WyldViolet ). We discuss a lot of different topics along Vy's journey from growing up in evangelical purity culture to finding herself as a lesbian and reclaiming her sexuality through her work as an Only Fans creator. It was such a treat to get time with her and we could have talked for so many more hours! M...

On today’s episode, hosts Cortland and Meghan interview Paula Stone Williams. Paula is an internationally-known speaker on issues of gender equity, LGBTQ advocacy, and religious tolerance.  She has been featured in TEDWomen , TEDSummit, the New York Times , Red Table Talk , TEDxMileHigh , the Washington Post , NPR, Good Morning America, CNN, ABC News, PBS, and scores of other media outlets. P...

This week on the show we talk with writer, theologian, and podcaster Robert Monson  ( @robertjmonson on Twitter). We are thrilled to share this interview about theology, atheism, spirituality, race, progressivism, and more. If you enjoy the show, please support Robert’s work! You can subscribe to his substack , join the Patreon for the Three Black Men podcast, and subscribe to both Three Blac...

We are so excited to be having Jess Heathen Queen on the pod this week. If you are not yet familiar with her work on YouTube, TikTok, Twitter and more where have you been? She is an absolute delight and one of our favorite follows from around the web. In this conversation we talk a bit about her story and the work she's been doing helping others to unlearn from their toxic pasts and explore the ri...

Today on the pod we sit down with Tim Whitaker from The New Evangelicals. Growing up, Tim always felt at home in evangelical spaces – until years later, when his studying and questions caused him to no longer be welcomed at in his church community. Brokenhearted, but undeterred, Tim continued to pursue a deeper understanding of faith, history, theology and the evangelical church. The more he uncov...

Today on the pod we have the honor of talking with not one but two amazing guests! Returning to the pod is the one and only Jo Luehmann along with the brilliant mind of Rabbi Mike Harvey! Many of you probably already know Jo Luehmann (she/they) , who is a Colombian born and raised writer, documentary producer, and podcaster who moved to the US to get her masters degree in ministry and theology. Af...

On today’s episode we sit down with Benjamin Faye ( @HeyThereBenji on IG). Ben has been a favorite follow of ours for a while and we are so excited to have him on the pod to talk about faith, race, and his experience in the American Evangelical Church. Ben is a writer, speaker, advocate, #exvangelical, and spiritual abuse survivor who is creating content that uses his experience to comfort, challe...

On today's episode we talk about our experiences with coming out later in life and being newly out baby queers in the world.  If you enjoy listening to the show, please consider heading over to apple podcasts to rate and review us. If you really enjoy the show, we would love to see you in our Thereafter Patreon ! Also, look for us on social media and shoot us a message to say hello, or chat w...

This week Cortland and Meghan sit down with Jon Carl Lewis, creator of Sex & the Gay Christian . Jon is a spiritual director that has created space as a gay Christian man for queer Christians that are seeking to live an integrated sexual and spirtiual life. Jon shares a bit of his history and upbringing, and then chats about sex positivity, “Biblical” sexual ethics, and how individuals discove...

This week we had the privilege of sitting down for a conversation with Chrissy Stroop. Chrissy is an important voice in the exvangelical and post-Christian conversation and brings so much to that conversation through her work as a scholar, researcher, author, and educator. She is a Senior correspondent for @RDispatches , columnist for @openDemocracy , as well as a speaker and writer for hire. She...

Today on the pod we sit down for a conversation with Damon Garcia to discuss his story of faith and his new book The God Who Riots: Taking Back the Radical Jesus (Broadleaf Books, 2022) (available now wherever you buy books). Damon Garcia (he/him) is a writer, video essayist, and public theologian. His work is centered around the intersection between liberation and faith. He lives in Santa Maria,...

On today's episode we sit down with friend of the show Ashlee' Thomas for a candid conversation about faith change, intersectionality, and being uncomfortable. Ashlee' was one of the folks we had the pleasure of learning from at our Portland meetup earlier this year and we couldn't wait to have her on the show! You can follow her on Instagram at: https://www.instagram.com/unashamedly_ashlee/ If yo...

No interview on the pod today. Instead Meghan and Cortland sit down to discuss their relationship with certainty and how it has evolved throughout their deconstruction processes so far.  There is a brief intro where we explain that we had originally recorded this as our Season Premier and instead opted to release it as episode two following our live from Wild Goose episode last week. In #Twit...

We're back! Kicking off season 3 of Thereafter podcast with our LIVE episode recorded this summer at Wild Goose Fest. On this episode Meghan and Cortland have a conversation with return guest Josh Scott from Grace Pointe Church in Nashville, TN.  For our intro and #TwitBits section of the pod we ramble a bit about the recent Matt Chandler "scandal" and some of the discourse that has been happ...

On our season 2 finale of the pod we bring back one of our favorite guests from the season, Tori Williams Douglas! You may have listened to our conversation with Tori earlier in the season where we talked a bit about her story and the work she's doing through White Homework and Go Home Bible You're Drunk.  On this episode we're talking about solo-sex, pleasure, and orgasms! No intro for this...

Today we sit down with George Azar, author of "My Gay Church Days" ( https://www.mygaychurchdays.com/ ). We talk about growing up, finding Jesus and later in the story finding himself. George was an absolute treat to talk with and we're so excited to share this conversation! In addition to the book George has been podcasting over at https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/my-gay-church-days/id159634...

This week was extra special for us because we had the opportunity to sit down with one of the hosts of one of our favorite podcasts (Mega the Podcast)! We cover a TON of topics in this interview from Holly’s background growing up in evangelicalism to her work over the past 20+ years in the world of comedy! We enjoyed every moment of this interview and hope you do as well. Holly Laurent is an LA ba...

Today's episode we sit down with Austin Jenkins who we met through the thriving deconstruction community on Instagram. Austin is a poet, and podcaster who is processing through his faith deconstruction journey through his art and creativity over on instagram @theexistentialwandererpod as well as on his podcast The Existential Wanderer Podcast . We talk a little about his faith origin story and whe...

This week we have another BONUS EPISODE! There is no guest for this one and instead Meghan and Cortland spend the episode discussing navigating relationship through deconstruction. Many of us who have left the limiting scripts handed to us by our evangelical or religious upbringing are left to re-frame our understanding of relationships outside of our previously rigid and binary understanding.&nbs...

This week we sit down with long time friend and fan of the show Jarred Harris! Jared is such a thoughtful person and we're so grateful for him taking the time to share some of his story and journey to finding fulfillment through witchcraft and pagan spirituality. Jarred is a content creator and you can find his content on Twitter (@JarredH), TikTok (jarredharris1), and YouTube.  You can find links...

On today's episode we sit down with Rohadi Nagassar to discuss his story, his work, and his upcoming book "When We Belong - Reclaiming Christianity on the Margins". Rohadi is a pastor building diverse organizations and communities around decolonizing and deconstructing Christianity. He lives in Canada on Treaty 7 Lands otherwise known as Calgary. Through his experience in the local church, a BA in...

Today on the pod we sit down with our twitter friend and fellow podcast host Greg Mason! Greg is a music teacher, theology nerd and host of The Decolonized Christian Podcast. You can check out his podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-decolonized-christian-podcast/id1555884063. Also give Greg a follow on Twitter @LetGregLive_ and on Instagram @LetGregLive_ We have a special guest...