Dr. Hayley Kelly

Therapists Rising Podcast

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Welcome to the Therapists Rising Podcast, where we share real, raw, and behind-the-scenes stories and lessons from Therapists who are thinking outside the traditional clinical box and choosing to do things differently in their careers. I’m your host, Dr. Hayley Kelly, and I myself have made the journey from a very experienced, but burnt out and unhappy, Clinical Therapist - to a successful entrepreneur who runs a business she loves, is thriving financially, and working and living life on her own terms. Join me, and be inspired, as I speak with other Therapists who too are broadening their hori...

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Dr. Hayley Kelly

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Business

Podcast website

therapistsrising.com

Latest episode

Mar 5, 2026

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Episodes

From 7 Enrolments to Six Figures: How a Vestibular Physio Built an Online Program from Scratch 05.03.2026

Picture a physio who launched her first online program with seven people enrolled. Six of whom she already knew personally. A sales page with no checkout connected. A program she hadn't finished recording yet. That was Vicky Stewart's launch one. Her most recent launch just crossed six figures. Today's guest, Dr. Vicky Stewart, is a vestibular physiotherapist who spent years watchin...

From Perinatal Psych to Florist: When Your "Side Idea" Becomes the One That Works with Carla Anderson 19.02.2026

Picture a psychologist with 25 years in perinatal mental health — burned out from holding space for loss and trauma for decades. She needed something that was just hers. No clinical notes, no disclosure risk, no empathy fatigue. She chose floristry. And then her perinatal colleagues found out. And asked her to bring it to conferences. Then to teach it online. Now she has a waiting list of clinicia...

Corporations Are Paying Psychologists to Teach Play - Here's Why It's Working 11.02.2026

Picture a corporate wellness landscape where companies are tired of boring PowerPoint workshops but also can't justify wine tastings when burnout is a WHS compliance issue. There's a gap there. A big one. And what if you could fill it? Today's guest, Dr. Mitzi Liddle, is doing exactly that. She's teaching corporations about play and pleasure - yes, you read that right - as nerv...

Stop Hunting for Ideas: The One Question That Actually Creates Clarity 04.02.2026

You've got the notebook. The voice memos. The Google Doc titled "possible program ideas" you haven't opened in weeks. You're not short on ideas. You're drowning in reasonable options. And somehow that feels worse than having no ideas at all. Because when you're stuck with multiple good directions and still can't get traction, it starts to feel like a you pro...

Why Everything Just Changed for Therapists: Money, Burnout, and Technology Collide 28.01.2026

For 12 months, I've been warning you the traditional therapy model is breaking down. Some of you have been listening. But many have been waiting for clarity. Here's what you need to hear: The last eight weeks changed everything. November 2025: Australia restricted Better Access referrals. December 2025: Fifth consecutive year of US Medicare cuts. January 30, 2026: US telehealth flexibili...

The REAL Truth About Passive Income for Therapists (It's Not What You Think) with Kayla Das 22.01.2026

Let's talk about passive income, and NO, this isn't another "make money while you sleep" pitch. This conversation with Kayla Das is the most honest, transparent take on passive income for therapists I've heard in a LONG time. Kayla's a Canadian social worker, business coach, author of The Passive Practice , and someone who's actually DONE this work. She's bu...

The Hidden Cost of Staying Stuck 14.01.2026

I've been noticing this pattern with the therapists I work with. Incredibly capable people with clear ideas for what they want to build - programs, offerings, shifts in their practice. They can describe it in detail. But when I ask what's stopping them, the answer is always some version of "I'm stuck." In this episode, I'm not giving you productivity tips or telling y...

Before You Plan Anything in 2026, Answer This One Question 08.01.2026

Everyone's doing planning episodes right now. Goal-setting frameworks, vision boards, annual reviews - and those resources are great. But here's what I think most people are skipping: the single piece of clarity that actually makes planning work. I just came back from two weeks completely offline (forced digital detox courtesy of terrible cruise internet). And while I was offline, one qu...

How to Go Into the Holidays Without the Pressure to Catch Up 17.12.2025

If you've ever headed into a break thinking "I'll finally catch up on everything," only to feel guilty the entire time—this episode is for you. Dr. Hayley Kelly breaks down why the pressure to be productive over holidays backfires, and gives you a practical framework to actually rest (or maintain minimal momentum) without the guilt. This is the final Therapists Rising episode b...

I Gave Up My Medical License to Say This Out Loud with Dr Julie Sladden 10.12.2025

If you've ever felt unsafe speaking up, shrunk your practice to avoid regulatory scrutiny, or wondered if the system designed to protect you is actually harming you—this conversation will validate everything you've been feeling but haven't said out loud. I'm speaking with Dr. Julie Sladden, a medical doctor, writer, and advocate who walked away from clinical practice, handed in...

Stop Planning Like a Therapist: How to Create a 2026 You’ll Actually Stick To 26.11.2025

If you’ve ever ended the year thinking, “Why didn’t I get to my program?” or “How am I still drowning in clients?”, this episode is basically a loving intervention. Therapists don’t miss their goals because they’re unmotivated — they miss them because the system trains them to prioritise everyone else first. So their dream project becomes the “neglected child” of the business. Loved, wanted… alway...

Scaling With Soul - How Dr. Catherine Hart Built a Practice That Breaks All the Rules 19.11.2025

If you've ever thought "scaling means selling out" or "growing a team means burning out," Dr. Catherine Hart is about to prove you wrong. She's built a 35-person psychology practice across five sites with a salaried employment model that actually retains clinicians—and she did it by breaking every rule. In this episode, I'm talking with Dr. Catherine Hart, clinic...

The 4 Boundaries That Stop Business Burnout 12.11.2025

If your business feels like it's draining you instead of filling you up, you're probably recreating the same patterns from therapy practice that burned you out in the first place. The endless availability, saying yes to everyone, undercharging out of guilt, and the resentment that builds when you're trying to be generous but running on empty. In this episode, I'm breaking down...

The 7 Lies Keeping Therapists Broke and Burned Out 05.11.2025

"You just need more self-care." That's what I kept hearing when I was burnt out, seeing 30+ clients a week, barely breaking even. I tried bath bombs, meditation apps, yoga breaks. None of it worked. Because the problem wasn't my self-care routine. It was the business model. In this episode, I'm dismantling the 7 lies that keep therapists overworked, underpaid, and stuck in...

What Sobriety Taught Me About Doing Business Differently 29.10.2025

For 12 months, I’ve been sober, and until a recent doctor’s appointment, I’d completely forgotten. No countdown. No recovery story. No before-and-after moment. Just life, without alcohol. When my doctor asked, “None? Not even socially?” and looked at me like I’d just confessed a crime, something clicked. His disbelief wasn’t about alcohol — it was about the quiet pressure we all feel to play along...

Why 'I Don't Want to Be Salesy' Is Keeping You From Serving 22.10.2025

In this episode, I'm tackling one of the biggest fears holding therapists back from building sustainable online practices: the terror of being "too salesy." If you've ever frozen at the end of a webinar, mumbled through your offer, or avoided pitching your program altogether because you're worried about pressuring people who've already been through so much — this epis...

Turning Grief into Purpose with Kimberly Stevens 15.10.2025

After losing her teenage son Ethan to T-Cell Acute Lymphoblastic Leukaemia, psychologist Kimberly Stevens faced the unthinkable — and chose to transform her grief into something that would help thousands of others. In this conversation, Kimberly shares the story behind Kids Connecting Parents , an app she created to help bereaved parents find local, peer-based connection and support when professio...

The Story I've Never Told: My Mental Health Crisis 13.10.2025

For 230 episodes, I've referenced my "kitchen floor moment" without telling you the full story. After interviewing psychologist Kimberly Stevens about transforming her grief into purpose, I realized: if I'm asking therapists to be brave enough to step outside broken systems, I need to be brave enough to tell you why it matters so much to me. This is the story of my suicide atte...

Breaking the Unspoken Rules: Prof. Nick Titov on the Future of Therapy 08.10.2025

In this episode, I'm sitting down with Professor Nick Titov—a giant in digital mental health and founder of MindSpot, Australia's leading digital psychology service that has reached over 250,000 Australians. If you've ever wondered whether therapy has to look the way it's always looked, this conversation will shake up everything you thought you knew. Nick isn't just innova...

Let’s Talk About Sex (Online): Navigating the Ethics, Fear & Freedom of Being a Therapist Who Talks About Taboo Things with Laura Lee 01.10.2025

In this episode, I’m sitting down with the bold, brilliant, and whip-smart Laura Lee - a psychologist, sexologist, coach, and the founder of Blue Space Psychology - to dive into what it actually takes to talk about sex online as a regulated health professional. Laura’s work lives at the intersection of mental health, sex, and relationships. And let’s just say, that combo can light up the AHPRA ris...

“What If I Get It Wrong?” Two Therapists on Doubt, Fear, and Creating Their First Programs 22.09.2025

In this episode, I’m sitting down with Alice Ayliffe and Elise Cassidy — two incredible therapists and Incubator graduates — to explore what it really looks like to move beyond the 1:1 model and create programs that change lives. If you’ve ever wondered, Where do I even start? Will anyone want what I create? What if I get it wrong? — this conversation is for you. Alice is an occupational therapist...

Years of Clinical Expertise & A PhD, Zero Clue How to Turn it into an Online Program - Dr. Sam Casey's Story 17.09.2025

In this episode, I'm sitting down with Dr. Sam Casey, founder of the Play Prescription Method, to explore one of the most common challenges therapists face: having an encyclopedia of knowledge but feeling completely stuck when it comes to packaging it into something teachable. If you've ever felt paralysed by your own expertise, this conversation is for you. Sam had a PhD, extensive rese...

The Hidden Reason Business Coaching Doesn’t Work for Therapists 15.09.2025

In this episode, I’m breaking down one of the most frustrating realities therapists face when trying to build online programs: traditional business advice simply doesn’t work for us. You’ve probably felt it — you join a business webinar or invest in a coaching program, and halfway through you realise: this doesn’t fit. The strategies feel pushy, unsafe, or completely out of alignment with your cli...

“I Can’t Keep Doing This”: Why You Don’t Have to Grind in 1:1 or Walk Away Completely 10.09.2025

In this episode, I’m talking about one of the most painful myths therapists buy into: the belief that your only options are to keep grinding in 1:1 sessions until you collapse, or burn your practice down and walk away completely. Maybe you’ve felt it too — cancelling family dinners because of client demand, fantasising about a “normal” 9–5 job, or even Googling “alternative careers for therapists”...

The Gap Between Great Idea and Great Program (And Why Most Therapists Never Cross It) 08.09.2025

In this episode, I'm talking about the invisible wall that stops most therapists from turning their brilliant program ideas into actual programs. You know the one - you've got this amazing concept that could genuinely help people, but every time you sit down to build it, you just... stare at the screen. Most therapists think this gap exists because they don't know enough or aren&apo...

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