W!ZARD Studios
The Way They Were
The podcast where every celebrity split is the one that got away. Each week comedians Grainne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate take a deep dive into a celebrity breakup, chosen by a special guest, that still lingers in their hearts and minds. We scour interviews, over-analyse iconic pictures and search for meaning in post-breakup media statements. Celeb gossip hounds will feel right at home, but really anyone who's experienced a breakup can appreciate hearing how the rich and famous take heartbreak to a whole new level. They might uncouple ‘amicably with love and respect for one another’ - bu...
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Episodes
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce: The Tackiest Celebrity Wedding Ever? 10.07.2026 18:54
This week, she's gone too far this time. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's nuptials allegedly involved secret locations, cryptic travel instructions, QR codes, phone bans and enough security to make a G7 summit look chill. Is this the height of modern romance, or have celebrity weddings become a little... gauche? Plus, don't miss a very special announcement... there's a new baby joining The Wa...
Nadine Coyle and Jesse Metcalfe with Ur Welcome America! 07.07.2026 1:11:22
You can't mistake their biology! This week on The Way They Were , Chantal and Gráinne are joined by Ben Anderson and Frazer York from Ur Welcome America to unpack the on-again, off-again romance between Girls Aloud icon Nadine Coyle and Desperate Housewives HUNK Jesse Metcalfe. Expect noughties nostalgia, Hollywood gossip, plenty of false starts, and a relationship th...
Chyna & Triple H with James Farmer 23.06.2026 1:19:13
Before reality TV power couples and Instagram fitness influencers, there was Chyna & Triple H . She was the trailblazing superstar smashing wrestling's glass ceiling. He was the ambitious future champion climbing to the top of WWE. Together they helped define wrestling in the 90s until their love affair became suprise triple threat. Gráinne and Chantal are j...
Emergency Episode: Ariana Grande and Ethan "SpongeBob" Slater 10.06.2026 34:36
Emergency episode! Ariana Grande and Ethan Slater have split, and Gráinne and Chantal are diving headfirst into the Wickedly juicy chaos. Is Ariana trapped in a cycle of whirlwind romances and reinventions? How did Ethan Slater go from respected theatre actor to the internet’s most unwilling main character? And can Arianna ever recover from the reputation her most recent relationship has sad...
Taylor Swift and Katy Perry 26.05.2026 47:52
In 2015, Bad Blood turned a rumoured fallout between two pop princesses into the biggest cold war of the 2010s, Taylor Swift and Katy Perry became locked in a feud fuelled by stolen dancers, subtweets, stan armies and forensic lyric analysis. This week on The Way They Were , Gráinne and Chantal revisit the glittery, petty, weirdly addictive feud that defined pop’s Tu...
Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall 05.05.2026 1:08:13
This week, Gráinne Maguire returns from SNL UK as we slip into the fallout between Sarah Jessica Parker and Kim Cattrall. On Sex and the City, Carrie and Samantha felt unbreakable. Off-screen? Pay disputes, mean girl accusations and contract disputes. We look at one of the most high profile hollywood feuds in a special platonic edition of The Way They Were! To get epi...
Book Club: Famesick by Lena Dunham 21.04.2026 58:05
Gráinne is back for a very special edition of The Way They Are book club, diving into Famesick by Lena Dunham. A memoir that reads less like a victory lap and more like a slow, uneasy unravelling, it takes in blind-item anecdotes, her breakup with Jack Antonoff, and behind-the-scenes drama with her on-screen love interest Adam Driver. Chantal and Gráinne dig...
Real Housewives Gossip with Michelle Shaughnessy 10.04.2026 21:29
On this special episode, Chantal and guest Michelle Shaughnessy zoom in on the glossy excess of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and size up the franchise’s newest arrival, The Real Housewives of Rhode Island! Plus over on the Patreon we get into the Summer House drama, Jen Shah's post prison interview and Carole Radziwill's problematic relationship with Ghislaine Max...
Sabrina Carpenter and Barry Keoghan with Bella Hull 17.03.2026 1:13:41
Barry Keoghan and Sabrina Carpenter looked like one of those modern celebrity pairings that somehow made sense: the brooding Irish actor and the pop star with the sharpest tongue on the charts. Two pint-sized superstars with the world at their feet, until it was all over. This week on The Way They Were , we pick apart the short-and-sweet romance between the Saltburn star and the Espresso chanteuse...
Jennifer Lopez and Diddy with Esther Manito 03.03.2026 1:06:32
Love might not cost a thing, but this one came with a lot of receipts. When Jennifer Lopez (back once again!) fell for Sean Combs in 1999, it felt like pop had engineered its own super-couple. She was shimmering on the brink of full-blown world domination; he was the Svengali of west coast rap. Tracksuits, champagne, Versace dresses and so much white clothing. Then came the nightclub shooting, the...
Napoleon and Josephine with Rosalie Minnitt 17.02.2026 1:22:40
The original short king meets the ultimate revolutionary party girl and sparks one of history’s most chaotic love stories. Napoleon, the obsessive letter-writer who conquered Europe but couldn’t quite conquer matters of the heart falls hard for Josephine: glamorous, widowed, and a real good time girl. Comedian and actress Rosalie Minnitt joins Gráinne and Chantal to unpack the passion, politics an...
Kim Kardashian & Kanye West with Tracie Egan Morrissey 03.02.2026 1:23:30
Kanye West and Kim Kardashian were never just a couple they were a full-blown cultural event. From Paris Fashion Week to reality TV, Instagram meltdowns and frequent attempts to break the internet, their relationship blurred the line between love story, brand strategy and performance art. But how did two people from such different worlds become the defining celebrity power couple of the 2010s? Thi...
The Beckham Family Breakup Gossip Edition! 23.01.2026 26:05
The Beckham family feud feels less like a falling out and more like a prestige drama about what happens when you are born into a brand. This week on The Way They Were: Gossip Edition , Gráinne and Chantal dive into the Beckham family saga, from wedding dress dramas and strategic Instagram silences to the (girl) power of Victoria’s Spice Girls nostalgia and David’s all round awfulness, asking...
Tiger Woods and Elin Nordegren with Stuart McPherson 20.01.2026 1:11:11
Tiger Woods sold perfection: serene, disciplined, surgically controlled. Golf’s ultimate good boy, engineered from childhood to never miss a shot. Off the course? A very different game was being played. On The Way They Were , we revisit the scandal that destroyed Tiger Woods' spotless image. Drugs, over 100 different women and the fateful night when Elin Nordegren smashed up his SUV with a g...
Ashley Tisdale vs. the Toxic Celebrity Mom Friend Group! 09.01.2026 23:26
It’s the first episode of the year and The Way They Were is back with a special GOSSIP edition . Gráinne Maguire and Chantal Feduchin-Pate get stuck into the delicious weirdness of celebrity mum friendships, as we look at the fallout of Ashley Tisdale’s toxic mom group revelations. Then, Chantal's faithful status is under fire as she reveals she doesn't 'get' the national treasur...
Natalie Wood & Robert Wagner: The Mystery That Still Haunts Hollywood 31.12.2025 41:40
This week on The Way They Were , we’re unlocking one of our most popular Patreon episodes of the year and sharing it on the free feed. We’re doing something a little different today. Chantal swaps her mic for a magnifying glass and Gráinne pulls her fedora low as they step away from the usual romantic nostalgia and into the glittering golden age of Hollywood. This time, our sleut...
The Way They Were at Christmas: Crimbo Films of the Past, Present and Future 23.12.2025 58:04
This week on The Way They Were , Gráinne and Chantal hang the tinsel, spike the mulled wine, and take a sleigh ride through Christmas past, present and future via Crimbo movies. From Judy Garland’s golden-age yearning, through Jimmy Stewart’s moral reckonings, to Cate Blanchett’s ice-cool elegance and Alicia Silverstone teaching us that even Netflix makes mistakes . Along the way, Chantal reveals...
Love Actually: Ranking Every Awful Couple 12.12.2025 36:58
This week on The Way They Were , we do the unthinkable: we go back to Love Actually . Gráinne and Chantal rank the couples from least offensive to “maybe we should call the police”, asking the big questions Richard Curtis never did. Who do we hate the most? Are half these characters quietly unhinged? What exactly is going on with Keira Knightley’s extremely youthful bride? And is the s...
Chelsea Birkby: Khloé Kardashian and Lamar Odom (Our first ever Kardashian episode!) 09.12.2025 1:19:21
Back in the early 2010s, few celebrity romances burned brighter (or faster) than Khloé Kardashian and Lamar Odom . She was the breakout star of reality TV’s royal family; he was the NBA hero. One month in, they were married. Soon after, their love life was a franchise. For a moment, it looked like reality TV had actually delivered a fairy tale but it was not meant to be. This week on The Way They...
Ian Smith: Effie Gray & John Ruskin (A Very Victorian Scandal) 25.11.2025 1:26:04
Effie Gray and John Ruskin looked like the perfect Victorian power couple: she, bright and brilliant; he, the era’s leading art critic. But behind the portraits was one of history’s strangest age-gap marriages. Unconsummated, uncomfortable, and the sort of story that would make Gen Z turn away in horror. This week on The Way They Were , Gráinne and Chantal team up with one of Britain’s best stand-...
Michael Clarke: Prince Andrew & Fergie 11.11.2025 1:20:54
Now this is a right royal mess. Before it all went spectacularly wrong. Before Epstein, before the exile, before the Palace decided Prince Andrew should probably just be Andrew: there was “Randy Andy” and Fergie. The cheeky, chaotic couple who briefly made the monarchy look like a Jilly Cooper book. From their whirlwind courtship and tabloid scandals to the toe-sucking! This was a love story tha...
Gossip! Lily Allen and David Harbour Fallout, Ariana Grande's New Look and Hugh Jackman and Sutton Foster Are Official 31.10.2025 17:34
This week on The Way They Were , we’re catching up on all the heartbreak, hair dye, and high drama of the celebrity world. Lily Allen ’s West End Girl has landed, a sharp, funny, furious record that lays her split from David Harbour bare. We talk through the fallout, the shock, and the pussy palace. Elsewhere, Ariana Grande ’s got 'new' hair but no ponytail. What does it mean? Finally we’re che...
Emergency Episode! Lily Allen and David Harbour with Rosemary Mac Cabe 24.10.2025 1:15:43
This week on The Way They Were , we’re diving into the breakup that everyone’s talking about: Pop Princess Lily Allen and Stranger Things star David Harbour . It was the lockdown love story that looked like a rom-com London girl meets Hollywood nice-guy, until it all went a little bit strange. Now Lily has a new album out which is going to set the record straight about the hottest romance to...
Jen Ives: Truman Capote & Jack Dunphy 14.10.2025 1:17:14
This week we step back in time to the 1940s to meet the literary it-couple: Truman Capote and Jack Dunphy . Truman was the sharp-tongued genius and Jack existed in his shadow. So how did the socialite and the introverted novelist make it work for so long? This week, Chantal and Gráinne are joined by the brilliant Jen Ives to unpack the devotion, destruction and divine madness of Capote and Dunphy’...
Emergency Episode! Nicole Kidman and Keith Urban Breakup Special 03.10.2025 16:59
Sometimes the gossip gods hand you something so big you have to drop everything and run straight to the mics. . . Several days after the event (sorry we had a busy week) Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman. Over. Finished. Kaput. Was it the hair? The cowboy boots? The fact she's constantly working? This week, Gráinne and Chantal react to the breakup of Australia's greatest love. For our special Taylor S...
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