The Data Advocate
The Update Podcast with Saul Klein, John Reilly, and Tristan Ahumada
Welcome to ”The Update Podcast with Saul Klein, John Reilly, and Tristan Ahumada” – your go-to source for the latest developments and insights in the ever-evolving world of Real Estate. Join industry veterans Saul and Tristan as they delve into breaking news, trends, and expert analysis, keeping you informed and ahead of the curve. Tune in to stay updated and empowered in the dynamic landscape of real estate.
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Jun 24, 2026
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Episode 51: Buyer Agent Commissions Getting Destroyed | Here's What's Next 24.06.2026 29:20
Real estate market trends tell you exactly what is going down right now while the whole industry gets a major reality check. This episode of The Update has Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly breaking down what you actually need to know to keep making money. Our real estate expert hosts take a quick break from bragging about their vintage boats to explain why the housing market is feeling...
Episode 50: Zillow vs Compass: The Wild Battle for Real Estate Data, Listings, and Your Leads 20.05.2026 41:16
Every two weeks Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly look at the headlines and wonder if the drama will finally slow down, but the friction in the real estate market just keeps accelerating. This episode breaks down the massive clash between industry giants, focusing on the legal feud between Zillow vs Compass and how Chicago’s MRED and the Northwest MLS got dragged into the mix. Saul take...
Episode 49: MLS Secrets: The Multi-Billion Dollar Battle for Listings 06.05.2026 26:50
The real estate market operates on a massive pile of data that most people ignore until it gets sold back to them for a premium. Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly gets into why portals like Zillow and Compass are obsessed with controlling listings before they even hit the open market. This episode breaks down the move toward private listing networks and why "Team Zillow" and "Team Compa...
Episode 48: The $52M NAR Settlement: Geniuses or Just Desperate? 23.04.2026 34:37
The real estate industry moves fast, but Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly move slightly faster (mostly because Saul won't let John retire). In this episode of The Update, we pick apart the massive MLS consolidation happening in Florida. Combining 93,000 agents sounds like a great way to ensure nobody agrees on what to call a "bedroom," but we look at why realtor associations are rushin...
Episode 47: The MLS is Dying & Nobody's Talking About It 08.04.2026 37:44
Tristan Ahumada and Saul Klein break down the legal and digital mess currently surrounding real estate listings. This episode examines who actually owns real estate data and why that control dictates your bottom line. While the Compass vs. Northwest MLS lawsuit makes waves, the industry sits at a breaking point because of the rise of private networks. Some big brokerages keep the best inventory aw...
Episode 46: The MLS is Dying (and the DOJ is Watching) 19.03.2026 29:12
Grab your green beer (or a chest-mounted office plant) and settle in. In this episode of The Update, Tristan Ahumada and John Reilly break down why the traditional MLS might be losing its grip as heavy hitters like Zillow, Compass, and Redfin redraw the battle lines. We’re going into the Hana Holdings (Davis vs. Hanna Holdings) case and how the new Hana List is leveraging private listing networks...
Episode 45: The Brokerage Industry's Biggest Challenge This Year 26.02.2026 33:25
Welcome back to The Update with Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly. If you thought the real estate industry could breathe easy after the antitrust settlements, think again. The legal "flavor of the year" has arrived, and it’s called RESPA violations. In this episode, we’re breaking down the massive class-action lawsuits hitting Zillow, Rocket Mortgage, and Veterans United. We look at how...
Episode 44: Real Estate is Illegal Now? Zillow, Rocket & The RESPA Nightmare 29.01.2026 31:30
Welcome back to The Update, where Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly discuss why waking up as a real estate professional feels like dodging a subpoena. In this episode, we plunge into Rocket Mortgage lawsuit and the Zillow RESPA violation. Apparently, attorneys ran out of things to do, so they found a "new" loophole involving RESPA violations regarding steering and undisclosed referral...
Episode 43: MLS, Zillow, Compass: The Power Move No One Can Ignore 15.01.2026 38:17
This episode of The Update is for anyone trying to understand why real estate still feels unstable long after the headlines moved on. Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly break down what’s actually happening behind the scenes: the unresolved NAR settlement, growing MLS fragmentation, the rise of private listing networks, and why Zillow and Compass are no longer just platforms but power cen...
Episode 42: NAR Updates, Brokerage Moves, and Real Estate Reality 18.12.2025 32:21
Episode 42 of The Update is here, and shocker, the real estate industry is still very dramatic. Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly break down the latest NAR updates, brokerage decisions, and housing market news from December 16, 2025, without yelling “crisis” every five minutes. This episode covers real estate news 2025, NAR policy changes, brokerage strategy, housing market trends, real...
Episode 41: The latest with NAR, Brokerages, and the Real Estate Landscape 05.12.2025 32:52
Zillow is back in court. Again. Because apparently one lawsuit just is not enough. In this episode, Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly break down the latest legal headaches facing Zillow, including the Compass listing access fight, the ongoing RESPA class action lawsuit, and what this all could mean for agents who played along. We talk Zillow bans, MLS rules, discovery drama, electronica...
Episode 40: NAR MLS Rule Changes, Zillow Lawsuits, Referral Fee Drama, and AI Fair Use in Real Estate 21.11.2025 25:52
Episode 40 of The Update digs into the biggest real estate news hitting every headline right now. Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly break down the NAR MLS rule changes, the fallout from years of antitrust pressure, and why this shift matters for agents across the US. We cover the states already living under open MLS rules, how the Paulson and Thompson decisions shaped the landscape, and...
Episode 39: Zillow, Compass & Lawsuits: Real Estate’s Messy Breakup 06.11.2025 33:51
After what was supposed to be a “summer break” that somehow lasted through fall, Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly crawl out of the real estate rubble to find that the industry didn’t exactly calm down while they were gone. Between the Compass–Anywhere merger, the Zillow vs. Compass lawsuit, MLS drama, and enough real estate litigation to fill a Netflix docuseries, this episode has all...
Episode 38: Why Buyer Commissions Are Rising and Lawsuits Are Reshaping Real Estate 04.09.2025 33:21
The real estate market is changing fast, and hosts Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly are pulling back the curtain on what’s really happening. From the surprise rise in buyer agent commissions to billion-dollar lawsuits against NAR, Sitzer Burnett, and Gibson, this episode dives into the biggest legal and compliance battles shaping real estate today. The trio unpacks DOJ vs NAR, antitr...
Episode 37: The latest with NAR, Brokerages, and the Real Estate landscape 26.06.2025 27:32
In this episode, Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly talk through real estate updates that matter right now. They start with how RESPA rules are being looked at more closely, especially with Redfin’s W-2 setup and their connection with Rocket Mortgage. The way agents get paid and how referrals work could be affected, and the team walks through what’s happening and what to pay attention to...
Episode 36: The Real Estate Civil War: Office Exclusives, Zillow, and the Future of MLS 29.05.2025 34:13
This episode gets deep into the brewing civil war in real estate. Tristan Ahumada, together with industry veterans Saul Klein and John Reilly, broke down the growing tension between brokers over MLS listings, office exclusives, and the rising influence of portals like Zillow and Homes.com . They covered the listing-as-a-marketing-asset mindset, NAR’s Clear Cooperation Policy, and what happens when...
Episode 35: The Latest with NAR, Brokerages, and the Real Estate Landscape 15.05.2025 40:21
The real estate world is undergoing a seismic shift and it's not slowing down. In Episode 35 of The Update, hosts Saul Klein and Tristan Ahumada are joined by legal and industry expert John Reilly for a power-packed conversation that breaks down today’s most pressing real estate changes. Explore real estate’s biggest shifts in this episode of The Update as Saul Klein, Tristan Ahumada, and John R...
Episode 34: Zillow, Compass, NAR, Homes.com: Navigating the Future of the Real Estate Industry 24.04.2025 28:53
The real estate industry is shifting fast. this episode breaks down the most urgent updates from Zillow, Compass, NAR, and Homes.com that every pro needs to know. Tune in as Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly unpack key disruptions reshaping the future of listings, compliance, and broker strategy. Covered in this episode: Compass vs. MLS rules – Why their new strategy is raising eyeb...
Episode 33: The End of CCP: What’s Next for Real Estate? 12.04.2025 31:21
This episode of The Update delivers urgent insights into how the DOJ’s growing influence, NAR’s latest rule changes, and Roger Alford’s appointment are set to reshape the industry. Join Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly as they unpack: The future of the Clear Cooperation Policy (CCP) What delayed marketing and exempt listings mean for agents The real differences between IDX, VOW, and sy...
Episode 32: Real Estate Lawsuits in 2025: What Agents Need to Know 20.02.2025 38:10
Major legal shifts are reshaping the real estate industry, with lawsuits that could fundamentally change how agents, brokers, and buyers operate. Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly led an exclusive discussion covering: Key real estate lawsuits and their implications How commission structures and regulations are evolving Actionable strategies to navigate the shifting legal landscape S...
Episode 31: Breaking Down the Supreme Court’s Decision: What’s Next for NAR and the Future of CCP? 24.01.2025 31:59
Discover the impact of the Supreme Court’s decision to deny NAR’s appeal and how it shifts the landscape for MLSs, compensation, and industry practices. Episode Highlights: NAR vs. DOJ: Explore the implications of the DOJ's increased oversight on MLS policies. CCP Under Fire: Analyze the potential changes to the Clear Cooperation Policy and its effect on private listings. Featuring industry expe...
Episode 30: Is NAR Falling Apart at a Local Level or Is Everything Going as Planned? 09.01.2025 28:26
Podcast Description for Episode 30: "Is NAR Falling Apart at a Local Level or Is Everything Going as Planned?" Is the National Association of Realtors (NAR) facing disarray at the local level, or is this part of a calculated evolution? In this episode of The Update, industry leaders Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly unravel the complexities surrounding NAR’s shifting dynamics and what...
Episode 29: The DOJ is coming after NAR? 12.12.2024 30:39
Discover the latest developments shaping real estate. This episode dives into the RealPage case, antitrust implications, and how technology is reshaping the industry. Key Highlights: The RealPage Case: Explore its antitrust impact and DOJ scrutiny of market practices. Technology's Role: How giants like Amazon and Google may disrupt the real estate space. Future Prep: Insights to help agents, bro...
Episode 28: What Lawsuits are Next - Post NAR Settlement 28.11.2024 43:43
The Update By Saul Klein and Tristan Ahumada Get ready for a deep dive into the future of real estate legalities and compliance. Join industry leaders Tristan Ahumada (CEO of Lab Coat Agents), Saul Klein (Real Estate Internet Evangelist), and John Reilly (Real Estate Educator & Attorney) for an essential webinar on November 26, 2024. What You’ll Learn: The NAR Settlement: What it means for...
Episode 27: NAR vs. The World, What’s Next? 14.11.2024 38:09
Discover what’s next for the real estate industry as the National Association of Realtors (NAR) faces unprecedented challenges. In this exclusive episode, Tristan Ahumada, Saul Klein, and John Reilly dive into the shifting dynamics impacting real estate professionals today. What You’ll Learn: The legal challenges NAR is facing How DOJ scrutiny could reshape the future of real estate Key strate...
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