The Unmasked and Messy Podcast

In this episode, we’re talking about what it really looks like to walk by faith—especially when it comes to money. Because if we’re honest… sometimes following God doesn’t make sense on paper. We share personal stories of moments when God asked us to let go of security, including giving up something that felt like a “safe” plan… and choosing to trust Him without a backup. We also talk about a situ...

What happens to a marriage when everything falls apart? We walked through one of the hardest seasons of our lives—an unexpected FBI arrest, years of uncertainty, and a fight to hold onto truth, faith, and each other. Esteban was innocent… but that didn’t stop the three years of pressure, fear, and suffering that followed. Most marriages don’t survive this kind of trauma. In this episode, we share...

We didn’t expect living in another culture to change the way we see everything — especially what “home” really means. In this episode, we talk about: what it feels like to live between cultures how it reveals things about your own identity and how it creates a deeper longing for something more Maybe this world was never meant to feel like home. 🎧 Listen to the full conversation as we reflect on w...

In this episode, we continue our conversation on anxiety — but this time with a very special guest… our 16-year-old daughter. She shares her personal journey with anxiety — what it has felt like, how it has affected her, and the reality of walking through it even when there isn’t complete “victory” yet. This conversation is honest, vulnerable, and full of hope. Especially for teenagers who are str...

In this episode, we talk about anxiety — not just what it is, but what it actually feels like to walk through it. Anxiety can be a long and lonely road. It looks different for everyone, and it doesn’t just affect one person — it touches relationships, families, and the people around us. We share some of our own experiences, the weight of it, and what it has looked like to face it without running f...

Learning a new language as an adult is exciting… but it’s also incredibly humbling. In this episode, we talk about what it has been like learning a new language as a family after moving abroad. From embarrassing mistakes to moments when our own kids had to correct us, the process has been full of awkward moments, laughter, and a lot of humility. We share some of the challenges, funny stories, and...

In Part 2 of our conversation on religion vs. the gospel, we move from theology to real life. What actually changes when you stop living under legalism and start living in grace? How does the gospel affect: – The way you respond in marriage – The way you handle conflict – The way you parent – The way you deal with failure Religion creates pressure. The gospel creates freedom. In this episode, we t...

Wait… you mean I don’t have to be good? So many of us grew up believing Christianity was about trying harder, behaving better, and keeping it all together. Be kind. Be moral. Be impressive. Be “good.” But what if that’s not the gospel at all? In this episode, we unpack the difference between religion and the gospel — and why confusing the two leaves us exhausted, hiding, and constantly feeling lik...

Why is it so hard to be honest about how we’re really feeling? In Episode 2 of Unmasked & Messy , we explore the fear behind emotional honesty and the subtle ways we hide — even with the people we love most. A simple date night conversation opens the door to deeper questions about why we default to safe answers like “I’m tired” instead of naming what’s actually happening beneath the surface. W...

In our very first episode of Unmasked & Messy , we share the story behind why this podcast exists. After moving to Spain 11 years ago with three young children, we found ourselves far from everything familiar and face-to-face with realities we didn’t yet know how to name. While realizing we weren’t alone brought some relief, it also revealed that awareness alone wasn’t enough. This episode is...

Get a glimpse of our podcast UNMASKED AND MESSY. Coming out in 2026, it's certainly going to be a fun, at times challenging, and adventurous journey talking about the messiness of life and taking off masks and stepping out of the darkness and into the light. Join us.