The Unfinished Circle

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions.  This month we are focusing on Rethinking Abundance - specifically, what generosity and sufficiency mean during escalating economic disparity. In this episode When Productivity Becomes A Religion we wrongly assume...

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions.  This month we are focusing on RETHINKING ABUNDANCE - specifically, what generosity and sufficiency mean during escalating economic disparity. In this episode The Body Knows Before the Mind we address the idea that...

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions.  This month we are focusing on RETHINKING ABUNDANCE - specifically, what generosity and sufficiency mean during escalating economic disparity. In this episode we explore the idea that maybe abundance was never miss...

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions.  This month we are focusing on RAGING WHILE TIRED - The challenge of staying engaged when we’re exhausted from being angry. In this episode we ask: How do we remain engaged with the world without letting outrage co...

*SAVE THE DATE* Join our Zoom gathering on Monday, Mar 18, 2026 from 7:30-9:00pm ET as we share and process our experiences of raging while tired. More info coming soon.

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions.  This month we are focusing on RAGING WHILE TIRED - The challenge of staying engaged when we’re exhausted from being angry. In this episode we ask: Why does caring about the world sometimes become a form of sufferi...

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions.  This month we are focusing on RAGING WHILE TIRED - The challenge of staying engaged when we’re exhausted from being angry. In this episode we address what happens when anger stops being a response and becomes the...

Welcome to The Unfinished Circle - a podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. This isn’t a place for quick answers. It’s a place to stay with the questions.  This month we are focusing on RAGING WHILE TIRED - The challenge of staying engaged when we’re exhausted from being angry. In this episode, Running On Anger, we are addressing: What happens when the anger that onc...

Kelly & Ogun return with a new podcast for people living inside questions that don’t resolve neatly. Welcome to The Unfinished Circle

In our rejection of fascism and authoritarianism, are we taking the time to explore how those energies exist within us as well? Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun examine how that which we oppose also lives within us, and our spiritual work is to inquire and transform.

Kelly and Ogun give an overview of their upcoming book club selection SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE and why it's necessary for non-religious folk to have some Bible education to neutralize those who weaponize scripture for harm. They also give a brief recap of their No Kings protest experiences. _____ Sign up today for our final book club selection of the year SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE: A SANE...

The church has many faces: sanctuary, prophet, enabler, revolutionary. Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun discuss the ways church is, and should be, showing up for today. Rev Kelly also reflects on moderating a discussion with John Pavlovitz, a former youth pastor and author, known for his social and political writings from a liberal Christian perspective. 

By calling God "Love" are we misunderstanding a spiritual principle and using it as an excuse to spiritually bypass? Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun discuss how the spiritual principle of LOVE is too often conflated with the comfort of emotional love, and why it leads to silence and inaction. ________ ** SAVE THE DATES ** Our final book club selection of the year SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND HATE by John Fugel...

Revs Kelly & Ogun break down why, if you're a movement for love and inclusion, it's not a good idea to learn strategies from hate organizations. ____ The Body Is Not An Apology offers radical self-love as the balm to heal the wounds inflicted by these violent systems. World-renowned activist and poet Sonya Renee Taylor invites us to reconnect with the radical origins of our minds and bodies an...

Revs Kelly & Ogun discuss Charlie Kirk's murder, various reactions to it, and the struggle spiritual seekers are having as they try to live in the tension between empathy for a gun violence victim who also happened to be a vile bigot. _________ So much has happened in the last few days, and there aren't many safe spaces to process. If there was ever a week to participate in an Antiracism Affin...

In a recent interview, Democrat Rep Jamie Raskin challenged listeners to compare the Bill of Rights with the 10 Commandments. Rev Kelly accepted.  ______ Discover more about project_SANCTUS and make a donation at  https://projectsanctus.com/ ______ If your body holds the wound, it also holds the way through. WHAT IT TAKES TO HEAL: HOW TRANSFORMING OURSELVES CAN CHANGE THE WORLD isn’t a self-help b...

Revs Kelly & Ogun explore the importance of rituals in justice work, and give a preview of their upcoming learning pod.  Discover more about project_SANCTUS and make a donation at https://projectsanctus.com/ ______ If your body holds the wound, it also holds the way through. WHAT IT TAKES TO HEAL: HOW TRANSFORMING OURSELVES CAN CHANGE THE WORLD isn’t a self-help book. It’s a call to reclaim yo...

Rev Kelly and Rev Ogun share their thoughts about the Mehdi Hasan vs 20 Far-Right Conservatives debate, why some our clergy still struggle with addressing current issues directly, and how playing to both sides is not in alignment with our spiritual principles. To learn more about project_SANTCUS, our upcoming events, and to make a donation visit projectsanctus.com Join our free book club discussio...

Many of us are grieving the state of the world, our unrealized liberation dreams, and the justice work we did over the years. Rev Kelly & Rev Ogun talk about navigating this grief, and share rituals that can help us along the way. To learn more about project_SANTCUS and to make a donation visit  projectsanctus.com Join our free book club discussion on The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-F...

Rev. Kelly and Rev. Ogun discuss the relationship many spiritual seekers have with the word and idea of resistance, as well as the complexities of making a decision to flee the country in the face of oppression.  To learn more about project_SANTCUS and to make a donation visit projectsanctus.com Join our free book club discussion on The Right to Sex: Feminism in the Twenty-First Century by Amia Sr...

Rev Kelly & Rev Ogun return for a 5th season with a recap of their time off and inspiration for the work ahead in these dark times.

Recording on May 1st (International Workers Day) Revs Kelly & Ogun draw parallels between celebrating the struggles and rights of laborers and the Gaelic spring pagan festival of Beltane.

Revs Kelly & Ogun talk about the death of Pope Francis, his papacy, and how we might be more religious than we think.

Revs Kelly & Ogun view the Easter story and Jesus' life from a paradigm of revolution against Empire. 

Rev Kelly recounts her "Hands Off!" demonstration experience and discusses with Rev Ogun how our paradigm of freedom determines our attitude and action around justice.