The Two Outsiders In Podcast

Which is more severe, the deed itself or the thought of it? Is it just the things we do, or is it also the thoughts we carry? Which carries more weight? Today we are talking about this and going very deep into it. Sharing honestly the sinful thoughts that we have. How do we deal with them? Is there a specific way God would want us to deal with them? And if sinful thoughts are a sin, is there a way...

Join us on this passionate, at times even heated, conversation about God's interference. Shachar has a huge issue on - what he himself calls - selective grace. Why is God rescuing some people but not all?  This time Liisa is challenging him on that: Should God interfere? How and when exactly? Where should He draw the line? How can He interfere but also give us free will at the same time? Listen an...

Do divine and perfection equal each other? Is something perfect also divine? Does the existence of imperfection negate the possibility of the existence of God? These philosophical questions are the ones that Liisa and Shachar are diving into today. And it might be our most lively and real conversation ever, with a lot of disagreement. Join in, as this is the episode you definitely don't want to mi...

What is a good father? How can a good father love deeply but also set healthy boundaries?  Shachar recently became a father of two as he and his wife welcomed a baby girl into their family. They already have a son, but now Shachar's in front of a new kind of a challenge. Shachar shares what he has learned about being a father so far, and his aspirations of raising his children to become good peopl...

Happy New Year, we're back! The theme for the first episode of the year is forgiveness. What is forgiveness, really? Is it a feeling? How to forgive someone who has really hurt you? Shachar and Liisa discuss forgiveness, exploring its meaning and process. Liisa shares a personal story of forgiving those who hurt her, a journey that took almost ten years. Shachar adds a Jewish perspective, highligh...

Holiday Special! Liisa and Shachar sit down for a festive chat about the two big holidays celebrated by Christians and Jews – Christmas and Hanukkah. What are some of the background stories related to these festivals? Why do Jews celebrate Hanukkah? Does Christmas really have pagan roots as they say? How do Liisa and Shachar celebrate these holidays, or do they?  Liisa and Shachar share what they...

We do not claim to be doctors, but we do have thoughts on the modern “plague” of depression and anxiety. As two human beings, both of us have walked that path ourselves, so this time we’re sharing our deeper thoughts about the matter as well as our personal stories of what we ourselves have experienced. Our goal is to find some practical tools for listeners who might -just like us- struggle with d...

Last time we got into a deep discussion about God's grace, and how inclusive/exclusive it is. We left off with a cliffhanger of Shachar asking Liisa's opinion about sin and if every sin truly could be redeemed. And if so, how and why, and how fair is it? We are no theologians here, in this episode Liisa is simply sharing her view of the matter. And with her new Bible in her hands, basing her answe...

Liisa recently embarked on a journey to Israel, exploring - amongst the usual sites - the Gaza border. She's sharing her most unforgettable experiences and encounters from the trip. However, one particular story had a surprisingly different impact on Shachar, sparking a thought-provoking discussion about the nature of God's grace and its perceived selectivity. The debate that ensued was not only i...

Unpacking the complexities of modern masculinity! Is it a force for good or a recipe for disaster? Join Liisa and Shachar as they dive into the nuances of healthy masculinity, exploring what it looks like in Israel and in Finland, and uncovering insights from the Bible, as well as their personal views. And obviously Liisa has written down her list of manly attributes! Get ready for another fun and...

Two years has passed since the terrible attacks took place in Israel in Oct 7th. Join us as we mark the second anniversary of the event. We'll be discussing the personal and global implications as an Israeli Jew who lost his uncle in the aftermath, and as a Christian who feels deeply for her Jewish friends and community. Shachar will share his thoughts on safety, identity, and community in today's...

In this episode, Shachar and Liisa engage in a thoughtful discussion about the recent passing of Charlie Kirk, sharing their reflections on the news and its impact. They also continue their conversation from the previous episode, delving deeper into the significance of Israel's existence as a nation and exploring the relevance of the Jewish people from both biblical and contemporary perspectives.

In this episode we're diving deep into the big F-word: Faith. What is faith to a Christian woman and to a secular Jew? Is there God or isn't there? How do we know? Can any relatability be found?  Join us for an intimate conversation as Liisa and Shachar open up about their personal beliefs and experiences, with Shachar probing deeper into Liisa's views with some really tough questions.

This week we are continuing on the difficult topic of antisemitism. Join us for a candid conversation with Liisa as she shares her thoughts and experiences on the current state of antisemitism as she sees it. In this episode, Liisa opens up about her personal encounters and reflections on the rising tide of hatred and prejudice, and why she is pro-Israel. With a mix of personal anecdotes and thoug...

In this compelling episode, Shachar shares his personal perspective as a former Israeli soldier on the ongoing conflict between Israel and Gaza, highlighting the current war's complexities and human impact. Living in Budapest, Hungary, he also address the disturbing rise of antisemitism across Europe, especially in the context of rising tensions and global instability. This is a crucial conversati...

In this episode we go deep. it's time to hear Liisa's story, honest and full of heart. Liisa open up about her roots in a way that's both personal and powerful. it's not always easy to revisit the past, but through vulnerability and reflection, we find connection. Tune in for a real conversation about identity, resilience , and the moments that makes us who we are.

In this episode, we’re taking you way back. We open up about our personal journeys, diving into the stories that shaped us—our childhoods, family dynamics, and the pivotal moments that made us who we are today. It’s raw, it’s real, and maybe even a little funny. now we would focus on Shachar's Childhood, Join us as we reflect on where we came from, and how those early experiences continue to influ...

Welcome to the very first episode of our podcast! In this kickoff, we’re pulling back the curtain and letting you get to know the voices behind the mic. Who are we? Why did we start this podcast? And what can you expect in the episodes to come? We’ll share our backgrounds, what drives us, and the vision behind this show. Whether you’re here for inspiration, insight, or just good conversation, we’r...