The TreppWire Podcast, A CRE Show

The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show

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Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking. Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants. Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.

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Jul 10, 2026

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232. Lending & Leases & CRE Sales (Oh My!) But Still Plenty of CRE Bears 07.12.2023

There has been plenty of cautious optimism in the economic and commercial real estate markets lately. In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss what a year-end rally means to sellers on the fence. We also break down this week's gains, dive into green shoots and crab grass for the office and retail markets, and debate renting vs. buying. Tune in now. Episode Notes: Economic update...

231. Falling Rates, Issuance Uptick Make for (Very) Cautious Optimism Heading into 2023 Home Stretch 30.11.2023

After a week of falling yields, benign inflation, and strong economics, we dig into some (very) cautious optimism for the commercial real estate market. In this week's episode, we also break down the latest CMBS delinquency rates, share green shoots and crab grass for retail and office, and examine the latest issuance data. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Economic update (0:23) - New CMBS issuance (...

230. As Distressed Assets Pile Up, Shlomo Chopp Tells Us How to Look for Opportunities 29.11.2023

In this special guest episode, we are joined by Shlomo Chopp, Founder and Managing Partner at Case Property Services and Managing Partner at Case Equity Partners. Shlomo has over 20 years of experience in commercial real estate and specializes in distressed real estate. We analyze the state of the CRE and CMBS markets. Shlomo explains workouts, the distressed narrative in the current environment,...

229. Alarm Bells from Retail Earnings; Reasons for Thanks in CRE 23.11.2023

In an early Thanksgiving edition of The TreppWire Podcast, we review concerns from the latest retail earnings and what this means for interest rates and CRE. We dig through new loan maturities data, share stories for office and retail, and examine the news of Signature Bank’s multifamily loan sales. And finally, we close with the reasons we’re thankful for the CRE market this year – in former NFL...

228. Carmen Spinoso Proves There is Still Value in Many US Malls, With Spinoso Real Estate Group 21.11.2023

In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, the team is joined by Carmen Spinoso, CEO of Spinoso Real Estate Group. With more than three decades of shopping mall experience, Carmen explains the different sides of the mall operating and leasing business, breaks down receivership and saving assets, shares optimism for the mall space, and reflects on malls during past crises.  Tune in now...

227. CPI Sends T-Yields Tumbling & REIT Shares Higher, But Retail CEOs Warn of Holiday Season 17.11.2023

This week, a benign CPI reading sent Treasury yields plummeting and REIT shares higher and some big retail CEOs were saying beware of the holiday season. In this episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we make sense of the macro news and also analyze the latest on commercial real estate prices, dig into office and retail data, and examine criticized loans in the multifamily sector. Stick around if you’r...

226. Rate Rally Hits Brick Wall; WeBroke; CMBS Deals Show Signs of Office & Hotel Lending Life 09.11.2023

This week, it was all about interest rates... and what the Treasury market gives the Treasury market takes away. In this episode, we explain the rate rally and what it means for the commercial real estate market. We dive into our take on the WeWork bankruptcy, share new deal information that sheds light on hotel and office lending, and of course share a lot of office crab grass. We also have some...

225. Multifamily Market Update, Where are the Opportunities Now? With Matthew Frazier, Jones Street 07.11.2023

In a special guest episode, the team is joined by Matthew Frazier, CEO of Jones Street Investment Partners to discuss all things multifamily. Matt gives us a boots on the ground view of the narrative in the multifamily market, what has changed in the last 18 months, and shares where the opportunities lie. Tune in now. Episode Notes - Background (0:49) - Multifamily contrarian? A focus on the North...

224. Markets U-Turn as Treasury Yields & Risk Spreads Tumble; Mall Optimism; Bay Area Office Pain 02.11.2023

In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we examine the market U-turn that the industry watched as treasury yields and risk spreads tumbled. We dive into new deals, our CMBS delinquency report and a large industrial loan that caused a spike in that rate, REIT earnings and some optimism from mall CEOs, and more pain for the Bay Area office market. Tune in now. This episode is sponsored by S...

223. Mixed Economic News Ahead of Fed Decision, Strong GDP, Silver Linings in CRE Issuance 25.10.2023

In this week’s episode, we break down the recent economic news including GDP, budget deficit, and stock moves ahead of the Fed's interest rate decision next week. In CRE, we find some silver linings from mall and hotel loan issuance. Then, we have green shoots and crab grass for office, hotels, and industrial.  Tune in now. This episode is sponsored by Spinoso Real Estate Group: https://spinosoreg...

222. Mall Green Shoots Offset by Miserable Office Headlines; New Lending Comps 20.10.2023

In this week’s episode, after analyzing the continued market volatility, we dig into some commercial real estate lending comps and the data behind the loans. We have a lot of news in office and retail – forming a dichotomy, sharing several green shoots for malls and even more crabgrass for the office sector. We break down stories about WeWork, value reductions, new leases, and close with a big mul...

221. War in Middle East; Office, Hotel, Multifamily, Industrial Comps for Buyers/Sellers to Process 13.10.2023

There was a lot of economic data this week with CPI, PPI, Fed minutes, and earnings season beginning. But after last weekend’s carnage in Israel, we pause to balance the data and headlines amid the horror. In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we also break down comps for office, hotels, multifamily properties, and industrial buildings. Tune in now. Please take our listener feedback sur...

220. Rates Up, Risk Premiums Jump, and Lots of Painful CRE Comps 06.10.2023

In this week’s episode, we discuss rising rates, a jump in risk premiums, and several painful comps in the commercial real estate market. The Trepp team searches for silver linings in a tough CRE market, we share positive retail stories, a lot of green shoots and crab grass for office, multifamily comps galore, and an industrial story to note. We also talk about NYC rent control and the retail apo...

219. Nowhere to Hide: CRE & CMBS Delinquencies, Jingle Mail, Dwindling Consumer Confidence 28.09.2023

This week, rising Treasuries, oil prices, and cooler-than-expected economic data left nowhere for investors to hide. In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss the latest economic news, Jamie Dimon’s comments about a 7% Fed Funds rate, and break down the increase in delinquencies in both the CMBS and bank CRE loan markets. We also share several office and retail stories we tracked...

218. Life, Lending, & Rock 'n' Roll: The Father of CMBS, Ethan Penner, Tells us How it all Started 26.09.2023

In a special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by the pioneer of commercial real estate finance, Ethan Penner. Mr. Penner, known as the creator and 'father' of CMBS back in the 1990s, breaks down the lessons he learned through his life in CRE. We discuss the S&L crisis, guard rails for new market entrants, the cause of the Great Financial Crisis, how CMBS got started, and Ethan...

217. Extensions & Modifications, Insurance Rundown, REIT Bankruptcy, & Dot Plot Discussion 22.09.2023

In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the post-Fed decision discussion – with the focus on the Dot Plot and the 'higher for longer' narrative. In CRE, we take on the hot (but not hot enough) topic of insurance, discuss a REIT bankruptcy filing, share office crabgrass, and more multifamily comps with interesting cap rates. Tune in now. Episode Notes: - Post-Fed decision dis...

216. Behind 280 Characters: StripMallGuy Opens Up on Anonymity, Tenants, & Chick-fil-A with Trepp 20.09.2023

In a special guest episode, we welcome Twitter CRE sensation, StripMallGuy. After a successful career as a value-add retail buyer, StripMallGuy added the title of influencer to the resume. Here, we discuss the ins and outs of strip malls, how to balance social media and the day job, breaking into the industry, and more. Tune in now. The episode is sponsored by The Henley Group: https://www.thehenl...

215. Downsizings Haunt Office CRE: Microsoft, Shell, KPMG Bring Painful Reminders (& Trading Alerts) 15.09.2023

In this week's episode, we break down the latest economic data and share several large commercial real estate stories. Starting with the news of more companies downsizing their office space, and closing with multifamily comps, we'll dive into the stories we've been tracking (some for many years). We also discuss note sales vs. loan extensions. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Economic update: inflati...

214. September Swoon: Healthy Market Pause or More? FDIC Loan Sale; Pigs Fly: CA Office Green Shoots 07.09.2023

Is there a soft- or crash-landing looming? In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss a healthy pause in the markets, and debate whether something darker is lurking. Rising unemployment numbers and depleted household savings don’t deter the commercial real estate green shoots, and we even see positive signs for the California office market. We also break down the FDIC sale of Sign...

213. CRE Rundown: Transactions, Office Value Reductions, Puerto Rican Loan Pay Off, Delinquency Data 31.08.2023

In this week’s episode, we break down signs of positivity and weakness in the economic markets. We cover our latest CMBS delinquency data and examine CRE exposure to a potential Rite Aid bankruptcy. We have news to share for all the major CRE property sectors including an office valuation reduction, a development for a mall in Puerto Rico, industrial and apartment comps, and news for hotels. Tune...

212. Get the 'Knak' with CRE Legend Bob Knakal: Data-Driven Update, Retail Green Shoots, Policy 29.08.2023

In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, Bob Knakal, Head of NY Private Capital Group at JLL, and legendary NYC CRE sales broker, joins the team to give a data-driven state of the market. We talk about data that moves the market, liquidity in the current environment, transaction volume stats, retail green shoots, public policy, Seinfeld, and much more. Tune in now. Episode Notes: -...

211. Multifamily Comps Galore; Retail Earnings Concerns; Interest Rates Level Off Ahead of Fed Talk 25.08.2023

In this week’s episode, we decide if the glass was half-full or half-empty when it came to retail earnings, interest rates, and other macro news. We dig into several large stories for CRE: retail loans resolved with losses, multifamily comps, apartment loans heading to special servicing, and office valuation reductions. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Economic update (0:23) • Retail stories (12:54)...

210. Late Summer Blues: Can Rising Treasury Yields Stall the CRE Markets? 17.08.2023

Retailers and banks were the focus this week as retail sales and earnings dominated the news and talks of higher capital requirements for banks took a bite out of bank shares. In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we back the latest macroeconomic news into commercial real estate and discuss if we think CRE is on an island of its own. We dive into a mix of office stories, multifamily new...

209. Soft Landing Doesn’t Mean No Turbulence; WeWork Exposure; Where to Hide in CMBS 11.08.2023

This week, economic data suggested the Fed might actually pull off a soft landing, but that won’t come without some turbulence. In this episode, we talk about the WeWork news and the firm’s CRE exposure, where investors can hide amid growing market distress, and the latest macroeconomic data. We also break down a potpourri of office stories, and some news for healthcare and industrial properties....

208. Ringing in August with CRE Green Shoots; What Can Go Wrong? 02.08.2023

In this week’s episode, we ‘ring’ in a new month with some green shoots for the commercial real estate market. The team explains why they are either buyers or sellers given the latest data. We run through the latest CMBS delinquency readings, retail news, office headlines, and more on multifamily expense data. Tune in now. Episode Notes: • Positive news, what can go wrong?(0:23) • CMBS delinquenci...

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