The TreppWire Podcast, A CRE Show
The TreppWire Podcast: A Commercial Real Estate Show
Leveraging Trepp’s market expertise and proprietary data sets, The TreppWire Podcast enables listeners to stay up-to-date on all things commercial real estate, structured finance and banking. Featuring Trepp subject matter experts and guests from across the industry, the weekly podcast explores how recent events have impacted both the markets and the daily lives of market participants. Questions or comments? Please contact us at podcast@trepp.com.
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Jul 10, 2026
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356. What This Week Means for CRE: Government Shutdown, AI’s Impact on Employees, CMBS Delinquency Rate Pulls Back, Bank Data Insights & More 03.10.2025 51:46
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we analyze what recent developments mean for commercial real estate (CRE), starting with the U.S. government shutdown. We explore its potential economic impact, how long it could last, and what historical shutdowns suggest for CRE. We continue the ongoing conversation about AI, including Accenture layoffs, and Citi’s employee training. Next, we brea...
355. The Markets Keep Moving: Office Bright Spots, Compass’ $1.6B Merger Reshapes Resi, Recapture Explained, & Trepp Trading Alerts 26.09.2025 53:11
Is office a good investment alternative? In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break it down, spotlighting growing demand for high-end CBD space even amid ongoing distress. We dive into Compass’ $1.6 billion acquisition of Anywhere and its potential impact on the broader residential brokerage landscape, along with August’s new home sales data. Responding to a listener question, we ex...
354. Behind the Debt Yield Metric in Commercial Real Estate with John Barkidjija of Byline Bank 23.09.2025 44:03
In this special episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we’re joined by John Barkidjija, Executive Vice President and Head of Commercial Real Estate (CRE) and Specialty Finance at Byline Bank. Better known to our listeners as Dr. Debt Yield, John shares why the debt yield metric remains a cornerstone in CRE and reflects on the moment it became his preferred tool for analyzing real estate. He offers valu...
353. From Dot Plot to Deal Flow: Unpacking the Fed's Cut, Retail Data Stays Strong, Paramount’s $1.6B Play, Special Servicing Rates Fall 19.09.2025 51:27
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we analyze the Federal Reserve's recent rate cut and the impact on the commercial real estate (CRE) capital markets. We revisit the movement of the Secured Overnight Financing Rate (SOFR) and credit spreads leading up to the decision. We also unpack the stronger-than-expected retail sales data for August, debate whether economists are overestima...
352. Nearly 1M Jobs Vanish, Industrial Demand Cools, Return-to-Office Mandates, D.C.'s Office-to-Resi Tax Incentives, & More 12.09.2025 48:27
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we unpack major labor market revisions, revealing that job growth was overstated by 911,000 jobs over the past year. We analyze recent data that strengthens the case for a 25-basis-point rate cut at the upcoming Fed meeting. We also dive into Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent’s op-ed, which critiques the Federal Reserve’s post-2008 monetary policy sh...
351. CMBS Loan Workouts Unfiltered with Shlomo Chopp 09.09.2025 45:33
In this special episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we’re joined again by Shlomo Chopp, Managing Partner of Case Equity Partners, to discuss commercial mortgage-backed security (CMBS) loan workouts and distressed property situations. Shlomo offers a deep dive into his firm’s strategic approach to navigating complex loan restructurings and asset management. He breaks down the dynamics between small a...
350. CRE's Yield Curve Conundrum, Residential Reality Check, Bank Transparency on Trial & Office Bright Spots 05.09.2025 47:53
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we assess the current state of the market, explore the commercial real estate (CRE) yield curve, and check in on residential mortgage rate trends. We unpack recent changes to bank reporting rules that could make it easier for banks to hide troubled loans and conceal signs of distress in their lending portfolios. Turning to property stories of the we...
349. Economic Resilience vs. Headlines: Tale of Two Consumers, Record Office CMBS Delinquency, & Multifamily & Office Inflection Point? 29.08.2025 48:34
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast , we discuss retail earnings revealing a bifurcated consumer with value players like Five Below and Walmart raising guidance while restaurants struggle, and examine resilient GDP growth despite declining consumer confidence. We dive into our latest CMBS delinquency data, showing office hitting another all-time high of 11.66% and multifamily reach...
348. Office Origination, Stagflation, Job Data Misinformation & Retail Earnings Fluctuation 22.08.2025 49:17
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we dive into growing economic concerns, from stagflation risks and the ongoing market uncertainty related to tariffs and Federal Reserve policy. We discuss the quality of the monthly jobs data to forecast future demand, and break down the latest retail sales data and performance, highlighting mixed earnings reports - such as Home Depot’s slight...
347. When Tides Pull Back: Finding CRE Opportunities in Supply-Demand Imbalances with Samir Tejpaul, Madison Realty Capital 19.08.2025 44:23
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Samir Tejpaul, Managing Director and Head of Capital Markets at Madison Realty Capital . Samir draws parallels between today's market and 2011 when he started his career and shares why he's bullish on 2026. He also explains Madison's approach to analyzing supply and demand imbalances to develop investment theses a...
346. Back to School, Back to the Office, & Back to the (Quantum) Future of CRE 15.08.2025 50:08
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we examine the Fed's challenging position amid mounting political pressure and July's noisy CPI print. We analyze CBRE's exclusive survey showing companies making unprecedented progress in getting employees back to the office, with enforcement and monitoring dramatically increasing. We dive deep into student housing performance across th...
345. Appraisal Sector Shakeup, Lodging Capex Crunch, Multifamily Planned Liquidation & Expansion to Industrial 08.08.2025 53:53
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we examine weak labor data and mixed economic signals that are fueling Fed rate cut expectations while recession probabilities remain relatively contained. We analyze the crisis at the federal appraisal regulator and explore demographic challenges in the appraisal industry. We dive deep into lodging sector performance, revealing how pandemic-era cap...
344. CRE Maturity Drag, Fed Holds Rates, Tariff Deadlines, Bank Earnings & Executive Commentary 01.08.2025 50:23
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we break down the Fed’s decision to keep rates steady and provide our thoughts on whether there will be a rate cut in September. We discuss Friday’s tariff deadline, negotiations that are still pending, and the implications on the economy. In other parts of the market, we analyze recent bank earnings and some of the findings as it relates to commerc...
343. Commercial vs. Residential Real Estate Value Drivers, Hottest Markets Leading the Way, & Transactions from the Week 25.07.2025 47:14
In this week’s episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we spotlight the top-performing U.S. cities driving the commercial real estate (CRE) market and break down the key differences between value drivers in commercial versus residential real estate. We discuss the single-family housing market impact on CRE, as well as general housing affordability concerns. Analyzing CRE valuation approaches, we provide...
342. Powell's Balancing Act, Private Credit... Hidden Risk?, Office Special Servicing Hits All-Time High, & Mixed Office Signals 18.07.2025 51:41
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss escalating political tensions surrounding Federal Reserve independence and examine June's inflation data showing limited tariff impacts. We analyze the growing role of private credit in filling gaps left by traditional lenders and discuss concerns about market opacity and systemic risk. We break down our latest special servicing d...
341. The CRE CLO Comeback Story: Market Trends & Execution Strategies with Steve Chow, Prime Finance 15.07.2025 37:46
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by Steve Chow, Principal and Head of Capital Markets, Analytics and Trading at Prime Finance. Steve oversees the firm's financing and capital markets activity across three distinct commercial real estate debt strategies, including their bridge lending platform that has issued 12 CRE CLOs over the past decade. We dive into the cu...
340. Housing Market Pressures, Credit Card Borrowing Plunged, BlackRock’s Buy, Texas Floods, NYC & Multifamily Transactions 11.07.2025 58:29
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss the resilience in the market despite ongoing concerns about inflation and job layoffs, attributed to factors like AI integration. We unpack shifting expectations around Fed rate cuts, the growing strain on housing affordability, and credit card borrowing slowing a $5.1 billion gain in May, down from a $16.9 billion rise in April. We a...
339. From Data Centers to Derivatives: The 4 Ds of 2025 with Jeffrey Berenbaum of Citi Research 08.07.2025 25:48
This episode was recorded on April 28, 2025. We are releasing it on July 8, 2025. In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast , we’re joined by Jeffrey Berenbaum, Director and Head of CMBS and Agency CMBS Strategy at Citi Research. Jeffrey offers insights into financing markets, lending conditions, and the broader economic outlook. We explore the impact of economic uncertainty on proper...
338. Timeless CRE Lessons: Market Cycles, Interest Rate Timing, Iconic Deal Failures, & Office Distress 02.07.2025 52:27
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we pull back the curtain for a special episode examining the timeless lessons that hold true across commercial real estate cycles. We explore the "grandmother's money" rule for managing risk, discuss how FOMO (fear of missing out) drives market behavior, and analyze the current interest rate disruption's impact on timing and le...
337. Wait-and-See or Cut-and-Run? The Fed's Dilemma, Political Impacts on CRE, Office Distress Opportunities & More 27.06.2025 54:43
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we explore economic trends, the Fed’s policy dilemma, and government impacts on real estate, including NYC rent regulation. We highlight office real estate investment opportunities, particularly how low-occupancy properties in strong MSAs could present attractive, discounted buying opportunities. We also discuss consumer sentiment, tariff concerns,...
336. What Recession? Making Sense of (Constantly) Revised Macro Data & What it Means for CRE with Danielle DiMartino Booth & Dan McNamara 24.06.2025 44:44
With headlines shifting by the hour, we brought in two experts for a timely update on the macro landscape and its impact on commercial real estate (CRE). In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined again by Danielle DiMartino Booth, CEO & Chief Strategist at Quill Intelligence, and Dan McNamara, Founder & CIO of Polpo Capital to give a pulse check after the June F...
335. Geopolitical Turbulence, AI Gold Rush, Distressed Office Opportunities, & Trading Alerts 20.06.2025 51:00
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we examine how escalating geopolitical tensions may have overshadowed the Fed meeting, despite soft inflation data and mixed economic signals. We discuss Meta's staggering $100 million AI signing bonuses and what they signal about the AI revolution, and share highlights from Trepp's own AI hackathon. We preview office distress opportunit...
334. CREFC Optimism, Market Uncertainty, Special Servicing Uptick & Notable Transactions 13.06.2025 48:16
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we recap CREFC’s June Conference, where optimism stood out amid market uncertainty. We analyze the latest economic data, including how the lower-than-expected CPI print might not be enough to prompt a rate cut as the job market remains healthy. We review Trepp’s May 2025 CMBS Special Servicing report, noting that the overall rate rose for the se...
333. Trading Through Cycles: Whole Loan Market Insights with John Toohig, Raymond James 10.06.2025 30:42
In this special guest episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we are joined by John Toohig, Managing Director and Head of the Whole Loan Trading Group at Raymond James. We explore how his experience through multiple market cycles, including the great financial crisis, has shaped his perspective on risk and opportunities in today's lending landscape. John shares insights on the current state ofsecond...
332. Jobs Jitters, Jamie Dimon's Warning, Wells Fargo Unleashed, NYC Office Market Revival, & Green Shoots Across Sectors 06.06.2025 45:39
In this week's episode of The TreppWire Podcast, we discuss the weak ADP jobs report and Jamie Dimon's stark warning about potential bond market cracks. We analyze the Fed's lifting of Wells Fargo's asset cap after seven years and home equity line of credit (HELOC) exposure. We discuss two significant office acquisitions including Blackstone's $850 million CMBS financing for a...
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