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The Tour Leaders
Travel before the internet. If you travelled before smartphones, this will feel familiar. If you didn't, you're in for a treat. The Tour Leaders is an oral history podcast told by the people who lived it. Each episode is a conversation with someone who was out on the road in the 80s, 90s or early 2000s, leading tours or travelling independently long before GPS, TripAdvisor or smartphones existed. These are stories about overland travel, cultural collisions, near misses, unlikely friendships, things going sideways far from home, and the kind of improvisation that shaped a generation of travelle...
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Episodes
His horse sat down, then bolted with his foot in the stirrup - Theo 07.07.2026 52:12
I worked with Theo in Thailand near the end of my tour leading days, where my memory starts to blur (probably because of all that time at the corner bar...). He came to tour leading via a classified ad in TNT magazine and a reference from his boss at a party tour company, a woman who'd watched him manage coachloads of drunk Brits across Europe and figured he'd be fine. She was mostly right. This e...
Carrying a passenger's soiled shorts out of Sapa - Noah 23.06.2026 53:44
I worked with Noah in Vietnam years ago, before it became the destination it is today. In 2003, a man he met in a Korean karaoke bar told him tour leading was a real job. He'd just been fired by the company in question. Noah applied anyway. He led trips through Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos, then the Trans-Siberian from St. Petersburg through Mongolia to Beijing. Often he was working it out as he wen...
An auto-rickshaw across Pakistan - Louise 08.06.2026 52:10
Louise grew up in a village in Leicestershire and had never met anyone who'd been travelling. Then she answered a classified ad in a magazine and ended up in Indonesia. She spent 14 months tour leading in Laos, completed 18 trips down the Mekong, and later bought an auto rickshaw in Lahore with an engine smaller than a lawn mower. The plan was to drive it 2,000 kilometres across Pakistan. It broke...
Pickpocketed in Xi'an, nearly jailed in Cairo - Zac 25.05.2026 1:01:35
Zac and I never met. Same company, same routes, same people, just never in the same place at the same time. This episode covers travelling in armed tourist convoys through Egypt after the Luxor massacre, buses racing each other despite the military escort, swimming off feluccas on the Nile, and the strange responsibility of carrying dozens of passengers’ airline tickets around Cairo before e-ticke...
Overland through Iran with a rescued street dog - Annie 12.05.2026 48:53
Annie traveled overland from India through Pakistan and Iran in 2000 with a dog she'd rescued from a Goan street at three weeks old, tied in a sarong around her waist. In Iran, dogs had only just been made legal again. Everyone got off the bus. This episode covers hitchhiking across Iran with a rescue dog, an Egyptian doctor who required a formal complaint, climbing the pyramids illegally with Pur...
Stuck in the Moroccan desert on a budget minibus - Arif 27.04.2026 43:14
Arif hails from Eastern Turkey and started tour leading in Cappadocia in 1998. His first tour outside Turkey was Syria — no training, a local guide who had no idea what he was doing, and a group that never found out. This episode covers getting the minibus stuck in the Moroccan desert for six hours after someone at head office decided to swap the 4WDs for budget minibuses to save money — go figure...
She heard about 9/11 in fragments in Varanasi - Tracey 13.04.2026 40:20
Tracy grew up in Wagga, studied maths and geophysics, and answered a classified ad to become a tour leader in Egypt. She thought it might last a while. It took years. She led tours across Egypt, Jordan, Morocco, India, Turkey and Eastern Europe — learning quickly that sometimes confidence mattered more than experience. We cover getting lost in Moroccan medinas, a spike through her toe in Todra Gor...
A border guard's bag of spare passport photos - Richard 30.03.2026 54:05
Richard came to tour leading the wrong way around. Most people travelled first and fell into it. Richard was working a corporate job in London, went to Thailand for his sister Anna's wedding (Series 2), and just never quite went home. His recruitment interview consisted of being in the right place at the right time — specifically, the Baghdad Cafe in Bangkok, where Roachie (Series 1, Episode 2) sp...
She lived alone in a Himalayan cave - Anna 16.03.2026 46:25
Before Anna was a tour leader, she lived alone in a hut in the Himalayas. No electricity. No running water. She banged a pan each morning to warn the snakes she was coming. Anna was built for this. In this episode — a motorbike robbery in KL that took the tour funds, the passports, and everything else. SARS quarantine in Bangkok. Pigs on motorbikes in northern Thailand. And an unexpected invitatio...
He used the second-worst toilet in the world, with an audience - Spencer 03.03.2026 48:12
Spencer trained me in Egypt in 1997 — back when applications were handwritten and camping tours ran on vodka and very little sleep. We cover Siwa Oasis, public toilets in Xi’an, ejecting a self-proclaimed Messiah from a tour in India, and the moment a passenger showed Kim Jong-il parody videos in North Korea. We talk about staying steady in a crisis, running back-to-back tours in Rajasthan, China...
Seventeen tour leaders, one flat, she picked the Sheraton - KJ 13.10.2025 51:35
KJ’s tour leading stories span Turkey, training trips, and the art of entertaining a bus full of strangers. This episode is about improvisation, memory, and the strange facts you invent to keep people listening. She reminded me of a training trip in Turkey, where we decided to tell our passengers that Atatürk’s horse was loosely translated as Mr Tickles (it was the only 'alternative fact' that pas...
The Bangkok to Singapore queen, 18 times over - Emily 06.10.2025 45:58
Emily’s tour leading years took her from Thailand’s nightlife to yoga and quieter paths. This conversation reflects on change, burnout, and learning what you don’t want along the way. Emily took me to my one and only Full Moon Party on Koh Phangan — technically the day after — and what I saw made me never want to go back... Enjoy the listen.
He walked an hour through a strike just to reach the interview - Amit 29.09.2025 1:07:07
Amit became one of the first Nepalese tour leaders for his company, earning his place the hard way. This episode looks at resilience, identity, and what it meant to lead travellers through your own country. What to say about Amit? His path into tour leading was vastly different to the majority of us. Enjoy the ride.
She made up half the facts and hoped no one noticed - Holly 22.09.2025 57:45
Holly travelled overland from Istanbul to Kathmandu, collecting stories that took time to surface. This is a slow-burn episode about memory, patience, and journeys that can’t be rushed. As the memories return, the stories begin to flow. You can check out Holly's amazing photos at Big Wide World Photography
First tour in Mongolia. No roads, no map, no recce - Buzz 15.09.2025 1:04:23
Buzz led tours through Mongolia at a time when there were no phones, no safety net, and no clear plan. This conversation includes permafrost, plague avoidance, and what leadership looks like when everything is uncertain. Wow. What a chat this was. Book your next trip with Buzz through House of Travel NZ
The bus overturned. He checked himself for damage and carried on - Andy 08.09.2025 53:10
Andy’s path to tour leading took him from banking to Southeast Asia — and straight into trouble. From bus crashes to Cairo markets, this episode is about chaos, luck, and surviving it all with humour intact. Andy never went looking for trouble — it just had a habit of finding him... Enjoy the ride.
He fell into tour leading and never found a reason to stop - JP 31.08.2025 39:14
Some people are built for the road. Others just never stop being curious. This episode is a conversation about what it takes to keep doing the job — and still see the world with fresh eyes. Meet JP. I trained with him in Vietnam in the early noughties, and he’s a hard act to follow. His groups love him — and once you hear him, you’ll understand why. More than twenty years in, he’s still out there,...
She said she'd lead for three months. Fifteen years later... - Kate 25.08.2025 58:49
Kate was a tour leader whose strength, resilience, and presence left a lasting mark on everyone she travelled with. This conversation is about friendship, endurance, and the women who quietly held things together on the road. Meet Purple Kate. I really don’t have enough words to describe her — but Wonder Woman comes to mind. Another friendship that has stood the test of time. Enjoy the listen.
His dream job paid badly, worked him senseless, and he adored it - Roachie 18.08.2025 44:00
Roachie's tour leading career started in Turkey and unfolded through chaos, responsibility, and lifelong friendships. This episode moves from humour to high-stakes moments that defined travel before the internet. A friendship that has endured across time, but started with an accusation of theft... If you want to know more about Roachie, you can find him at Craig Roach - Gallipoli Artist and Battle...
Paid eight pounds fifty a day, sharing a room with pax - Liddy 04.08.2025 54:20
Liddy began tour leading in Cairo in the late 90s, back when nothing was searchable and friendships formed fast. This conversation is about intuition, long-term friendship, and the people you meet when you’re far from home. Liddy was the first person I met when I arrived in Cairo to start tour leading back in 1997. The first thing she told me was that she’d had a dream about me the night before —...
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