Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe
The Thinking Practitioner
For the practitioner who’s never stopped being curious. Til Luchau and Whitney Lowe bring together leading researchers, master clinicians, and big questions from across bodywork, massage, and manual therapy — exploring not just what we do with our hands, but why it works and how to do it better. Smart, grounded, and genuinely useful conversations for the somatic arts and sciences. For professional practitioners in bodywork, massage therapy, structural integration, chiropractic, myofascial and myotherapy, orthopedics, sports massage, physical therapy, and osteopathy — as well as yoga, strength...
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Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe
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Oct 28, 2026
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Episodes
82: Season 3 Highlights - Best of the Thinking Practitioner 28.12.2022 46:40
With a quarter-million downloads to date, Whitney and Til share their top 5 episode highlights and notable ideas from their third season of interviews, conversations, and inquiries into the thinking behind effective hands-on work. The Ten Most-Downloaded Episodes from Season Three: 53: Fascia: A Deep Dive (with Dr. Antonio Stecco) 69: Back Pain, Stiffness & Fascia (with Stuart McGill) 56: Work...
81: Fascia, Length-Change, and Language (with John Sharkey) 14.12.2022 51:44
Is language important? Do muscles actually change length? Does posture matter? Is “fascia” a reductionist idea? Whitney and Til head straight down these rabbit holes (and more) in conversation with clinical anatomist John Sharkey. Get the full transcript of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com Whitney Lowe’s Academy of Clinical Massage Sponsor Off...
80. What We Might Learn From Sex (with Betty Martin) 30.11.2022 48:00
What can we as bodyworkers can learn about intimacy, ethics, consent, touch, and boundaries, from people working on the other side of the no-sex "firewall" that (very appropriately) separates our profession from erotic and sex work? Betty Martin is a leading author, thinker, and trainer in the field of consent and touch; listen in as she and Til think it through. Check out the video or get the fu...
79: Hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos, Fascia, and Pain (with Tina Wang) 16.11.2022 54:48
Does stiff fascia hurt because it's stiff? Why then is there pain with the softer-tissue patterns of hypermobility and Ehlers-Danlos syndromes? Dr. Tina Wang's fascinating research (as well as her own story) helps shed some light on this paradox. Check out the video of her Thinking Practitioner conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: Til Luchau’s Advanced-Trainings.com Whitney Lowe’s Academy o...
78: More Carrots, or More Sticks? The Continuing Education Conundrum 02.11.2022 55:08
Most everyone agrees that the current system of continuing professional education (CE or CPD) for massage and manual therapy has problems. Should CE requirements simply be abolished? Or is even more regulation needed? Whitney and Til think these things through and come up with individual and system-wide options. Check out the video of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s...
77: The Future of the Profession (with Sandy Fritz) 19.10.2022 1:03:01
Whitney has a conversation with Sandy Fritz on her vision of the current and future state of the profession. How the current economic situation has impacted the massage profession Innovative changes with the ICMT The migration of massage employment to a "job" Challenges with massage employees How to work full time Ergonomic challenges in our field Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites...
76: Fascia Research Congress Highlights (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau) 05.10.2022 48:43
Til & Whitney share their takeaways, impressions, and highlights from the recent 6th International Fascia Research Congress in Montreal. Topics include: New research correlating tissue qualities with depression Biomechanics of thoracolumbar fascia Counterintuitive findings about Ehlers-Danlos Fascia and elastic recoil Should we massage tumors? Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites:...
75: Secret Shopper CE Review (bonus episode, with Hands at the Table podcast) 26.09.2022 45:06
Unbeknownst to us, the hosts of the 'Hands at the Table' podcast recorded and aired a “secret shopper” episode about one of Til Luchau’s most popular online CE classes. Listen in as they dissect and review the course, bit-by-excruciating-bit. (And, you can find out more about Til’s next Principles course, live or by recording, at Advanced-Trainings.com .) In this episode: Were the techniques usef...
74: Sacroiliac Joints: The Next Level (with Til Luchau & Whitney Lowe) 21.09.2022 1:03:38
Whitney and Til dive deep into their differing (and shared) approaches to sacroiliac joint pain, pelvic anatomy, biomechanics, and much more, all in celebration of Whitney’s recent SIJ article and Til’s upcoming live-online hands-on training. NEW: check out the video of their conversation on Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s cour...
73: Long Term Lyme Disease: What Helps? (with Ruth Werner) 07.09.2022 45:13
Can massage and bodywork help with long-term Lyme Disease? The answer has implications for working with similar conditions such as long COVID, post-viral syndromes, and more. Til Luchau talks it through with pathology writer Ruth Werner. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.c...
72: Intimacy, Sex & Massage: Strange Bedfellows? (with Cal Cates) 24.08.2022 55:25
Til Luchau talks with Cal Cates about "massage therapy's sex problem:" how the profession's "touchiness" about the intimacy-sensuality-sexuality continuum, however well-founded, might not be serving either our clients, nor ourselves. Watch the video of their conversation and get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe: Academy of Clinical Massage Til Luchau: Advanced-Train...
71: Fascia & Pain: What We Know (with Helene Langevin) 10.08.2022 43:57
Famed fascial researcher Helene Langevin MD talks with Til and Whitney about what we know (and _don't_ know) about the role of tissue stiffness in pain; the effects of stretching on cell function and inflammation; contextual effects and placebos; and much more. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses...
70: Stretching: Would Everyone Just Relax? (with Jules Mitchell) 27.07.2022 1:03:04
Whitney and Til have an in-depth conversation with Jules Mitchell (author of Yoga Biomechanics: Stretching Redefined) about topics like tissue change, flexibility, hyper-mobility as they relate to yoga and manual therapy. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com Resources:...
69: Back Pain, Stiffness & Fascia (with Stuart McGill) 13.07.2022 1:08:37
Legendary back pain researcher Stuart McGill (author of Back Mechanic and others) talks with Whitney and Til about spinal pain, fascia, biomechanics and other topics including: - Stiffness/mobility tuning in manual therapy - The psoas' role in supporting the spine - Fascial connections, Janda's lower-crossed model, and more. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s onli...
68: Working with Sciatic Pain (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau) 29.06.2022 1:08:59
Til and Whitney compare notes about their tests and techniques for recognizing, understanding, and working with sciatica, sciatic pain, and similar conditions. Download the free technique handout from https://bit.ly/sciatica-handout-68 Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.co...
67: Aging Gracefully, Breathing Well, and Long COVID Recovery (with Jan Sultan) 15.06.2022 1:24:28
Til talks with Jan Sultan (one of the first Rolfers trained by Ida Rolf to teach her work), about his life and work; about aging well; and about his take-aways from his ongoing COVID recovery process. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com Resources mentioned Til's 'Cyt...
66: Beyond ”It Depends:” Oncology Massage (with Janet Penny, Rebecca Sturgeon, and Loretta Luchau) 01.06.2022 1:04:53
Til gets personal as he discusses bodywork with people living with cancer, with Janet Penny and Rebecca Sturgeon, the authors of “Oncology Massage: An Integrative Approach to Cancer Care.” They’re joined by Til’s wife Loretta Carridan Luchau, a bodyworker and therapist who has been living with cancer for many years. Watch the video (NEW!) and get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites: W...
65: Women Leaders in Massage Therapy (with CG Funk, Ruth Werner, and Irene Diamond) 18.05.2022 1:02:57
Women account for about 85 percent of Massage Therapists in the US. However, there isn't always a corresponding representation of women as CE providers, conference headliners, or in other roles of visible leadership. Whitney and Til explore this phenomenon in discussions with three women leaders, as a way to acknowledge just a few of the many women who have made significant contributions and impac...
64: The Handspring Story (with Andrew Stevenson and Mary Law) 04.05.2022 58:14
It’s no exaggeration to say that in its ten years of existence, Handspring Publishing has had a profound impact on the bodywork and movement therapy fields. Til and Whitney talk with two of Handspring's founders about some very big recent news, and about their unique vision of a place where both long-established authors (such as Robert Schleip, Leon Chaitow, and more), as well as promising newer v...
63: Turnabout is Fair Play: Our Favorite Perspective Reversals 20.04.2022 55:54
People change their minds--sometimes, radically. Learning, improving, refining, all involve changing how we saw things before. But is there a cost? And what makes changing our views such a challenge? Whitney and Til compare notes about how their perspectives have taken a 180° from how they used to think, and, about how that's played out. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! Whitney...
62: Educational Innovations (with Anne Williams and Eric Brown) 06.04.2022 1:03:39
Whitney talks with Anne Williams and Eric Brown about innovations in education. They delve into these important topics: such as: -Early explorations of online education, podcasting, and the World Massage Conference -Why instructional design and educational theory matter in education? -New frontiers in the publishing of digital textbooks …and much more. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's...
61: Massage Therapy Research (with Niki Munk) 23.03.2022 57:19
Whitney talks with Niki Munk about massage therapy research. They delve into these important topics: such as: -What are levels of evidence and why does this matter? -Why should massage therapists care about research? -How to get involved with research -Challenges of massage education existing outside traditional academic models …and much more. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! W...
60: Physical Therapy Assisting and Massage (with Matt Gavzy) 09.03.2022 45:52
Whitney talks with massage therapist and physical therapy assistant Matt Gavzy about working in a team practice with other professionals, and about integrating massage therapy with physical therapy approaches. Get the full transcript at Til or Whitney's sites! Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com Episode Resources M...
59: What Influenced You? (with Whitney Lowe & Til Luchau) 23.02.2022 51:20
Whitney and Til compare notes about the major influences on their own careers, and along the way discuss topics such as: -The development of massage and bodywork education and practice -Their Esalen Institute and Emory University crossroads -The role of lineage, teacher personality, and standards -The evolution of online learning -Mentors and mentoring …and much more. Get the full transcript at T...
58: Outside the Box (with Judith Aston) 09.02.2022 49:53
Til Luchau asks pioneering movement and bodywork teacher Judith Aston "Do you think being a woman ever held you back?" Then, they talk about what she thought of that question. Get the full transcript, and the answer to Judith's 9-dot puzzle, at Til or Whitney's sites! Whitney Lowe’s online Clinical & Orthopedic Massage Courses Til Luchau’s courses at Advanced-Trainings.com Episode Resou...
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