Timothy Iseler

The Thing We Never Talk About

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The Thing We Never Talk About is an educational podcast about personal finance for creatives and other weirdos. We'll discuss managing cash flow with a lumpy income, when to save & when to invest, and how to reduce stress & build confidence when it comes to your money. No hot stock tips, no complicated strategies, and no finance bro jargon. We'll hear from artists, musicians, creative professionals, and other weirdos about how they navigate these questions for themselves. The Thing We Never Talk About is hosted by Timothy Iseler, CFP®, a former recording & touring audio engineer with 18 years...

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Timothy Iseler

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Latest episode

Jul 6, 2026

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Episodes

How To Save An Extra $7k/Year 21.07.2025

This episode builds on the previous conversation about how investing $7,000 a year can grow into $1 million. If you’re self-employed or living on a creative income, the idea of setting that money aside might feel impossible—but it’s more doable than you think. By breaking the total into manageable monthly, weekly, or even daily amounts, and comparing it to everyday expenses like dinner out or a mo...

Lara Hermanson - Owner of Farmscape 14.07.2025

Lara Hermanson owns the largest urban farming company in America. But you wouldn't have guessed it when we played in a band together in our 20s! Lara shares how she started farming as one of many jobs she had just to get by, how she learned about investing while working as a housekeeper, and ways to enjoy life in Oakland CA without spending a lot of money.  Lara's question for Tim: Where should we...

How To Turn $7k/Year Into $1 Million 07.07.2025

While not everyone needs to plan for a conventional retirement, I think that everyone could benefit from saving & investing to increase financial independence – the ability to choose when to work (or not) and with whom. Today's episode looks at how you could grow your nest egg to $1 million by maxing out your IRA and buying the simplest investment options available. Key Takeaways A conventiona...

Matt McCaughan - Musician 30.06.2025

Matt McCaughan is probably best known as the drummer for Bon Iver, but he's played with tons of bands big & small both on stage and in the studio. In this conversation, Matt shares how he got started in music, the importance of not being too career-minded too soon, how he thinks about his work & how to price it, and how he manages the ups & downs of a gig-based income.  Matt's question...

Planning With An Up & Down Income 23.06.2025

How to you make financial plans for the future when you don't know what you'll make this year or even this month? Today I share three simple tips that people with up & down incomes can use to build financial stability and plan for the future. Key Takeaways: If you know that something will happen – even if that something is unpredictability – you can make a plan for it. Knowing how much you spe...

Rebecca Cole – Musician & Tour Manager 16.06.2025

Rebecca Cole is a musician and tour manager. She's worked as a roadie for many years, but started playing music with her first band The Minders in the mid-90s and recently toured the world as the keyboard player in Pavement. Rebecca is a delight to speak with and I really enjoyed this conversation about finding room for luxuries on any income, how moving to another city helped her buy a home, the...

Low-Tech Cash Flow 09.06.2025

Managing cash flow can be a handful for anyone, but especially for people with weird jobs. Cash flow is the money that comes in and the money that goes out, and managing it is fundamental to every other financial decision you make. Today I share three low-tech, super simple techniques that anyone can use at any income level to manage cash flow – and all without the use of a budget. Key Takeaways:...

Adam Turla – Musician & Restaurant Owner 02.06.2025

Adam Turla is a founding member of the band Murder By Death and co-founder of the Louisville KY restaurant Pizza Lupo (both with his wife, Sarah Balliet). And we go way back – I recorded the band's 2003 debut full-length album over 6 days during their spring break. In this conversation, Adam shares stories from the band's early days, the decision to stop touring after 25 years, how he & Sarah...

LLC or S-Corp? 26.05.2025

Which business type is better for self-employed people – LLC or S-Corp? This episode takes self-employment tax a step further with a look at the pros & cons of LLCs and S-Corps, including how S-Corps help self-employed people save on employment taxes (but add more complexity and paperwork). At the end, you should understand the basics of sole proprietors, partnerships, LLCs, and S-Corps, and h...

Franz Nicolay – Musician, Author, & Teacher 19.05.2025

Franz Nicolay's new book, "Band People: Life And Work In Popular Music", is all about how working musicians think about their craft, careers, and compensation – a natural fit for this podcast! He is also a working musician, releasing music & touring under his own name, as a member of The Hold Steady, and co-founder of the composer-performer collective Anti-Social Music. It was a pleasure to sp...

What's Up With Self Employment Tax? 12.05.2025

The annual tax filing deadline is in the rearview mirror, but if you want to reduce your stress for next year's filing, this is actually the perfect time to start thinking about & planning for next year’s taxes. Today we look at a tax that impacts self-employed people called, cleverly enough, Self-Employment Tax. It impacts all sole proprietors, partners in partnerships, LLC members, freelance...

John Darnielle – Musican & Author 05.05.2025

John Darnielle is the founder & songwriter of The Mountain Goats, as well as the author of three excellent novels and the 33 1/3 series book about Black Sabbath's classic "Master Of Reality" album. We talk about how he got started in both music & writing, how he managed to stick with music for years despite not really making any money, the decision to pursue music full time, the responsibi...

Case Study: Are You "Good With Money"? 28.04.2025

What does it take to be "good with money"? Today we look at a real life financial planning case study to show how self-talk and identity factor into making better financial decisions. Key takeaways: You don't need to wait for permission to begin changing your life, even/especially when it's something really important. A key driver in building positive habits is how you self-identify. Identity is a...

Jeremy Lemos – Touring Audio Engineer 21.04.2025

Jeremy Lemos is a touring audio engineer from Chicago. And he's also one of my best friends! Jeremy and I came up in the independent studio world of early 2000s Chicago and have toured together many times. We talk about how he got started in the music industry, how he decides what gigs to take, and the impact of investing over many years.  Jeremy's question for Tim: What advice to you have about t...

What The Hell Is Going On (And What Should You Do)? 14.04.2025

Hooooooboy, what’s in the news?!? It’s been totally stressful and fatiguing to follow the wild ups & downs (mostly downs) in the stock market lately. So I thought I’d take a minute to acknowledge a question lots of people are thinking: what the hell is going on, and what should I do? Here’s the TL/DR: Don’t sell your investments out of panic Before you even get to thinking about investments, p...

Ivo Gasparotto – Freelance Software Designer 07.04.2025

Ivo Gasparotto is a software designer who recently started working for himself as a freelancer. And he's one of my oldest friends! Ivo and I were roommates when we moved to Chicago together in the early 2000s and remain good friends to this day. We talk about our early days getting by on very little money, the importance of keeping your spending in check, and the cushion that saving & investin...

Let's Talk About Money 31.03.2025

Money is weird, right? It touches almost every part of our lives, from the work we do, to our homes, to where our kids go to school. Money plays a part in pretty much everything, but we don’t really talk about it. Something that impacts nearly every part of our lives should not be so off-limits that it prevents us from moving forward in life. Ok, maybe don’t share your bank account balance on soci...

Introducing... 20.03.2025

Introducing "The Thing We Never Talk About", a podcast about personal finance for weirdos. What’s the one thing that you definitely, never, ever talk about in polite company? That’s right, money. Not in public, not with your peers, and lots of times not even at home. And, if you're a creative person, money is absolutely the least cool thing you can care about. Creative people are supposed to do wh...

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